Dawntrail character graphics update - opinions, requests and discussion megathread

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Originally Posted by Sunhwapark

In the 7.5 Preliminary notes I see the mention of GPOSE now having an eyelid tracker thing, but I'm assuming this means we still will have creepy gazes in our Adventurer Plates.
Hope I'm wrong though.

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There was also a line that said “model/texture resolution and quality of faces has been improved,” but I doubt this will fix the many shape changes that so many here have been concerned about.

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Originally Posted by Khryseis_Astra

There was also a line that said “model/texture resolution and quality of faces has been improved,” but I doubt this will fix the many shape changes that so many here have been concerned about.

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I think this is for the remaining NPCs that still weren't updated.

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Originally Posted by RedLolly

I think this is for the remaining NPCs that still weren't updated.

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Please by the Twelve let them fix Thancred! T.T

(But from the screenshot in the patch notes, it would appear they have not…)

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Originally Posted by Khryseis_Astra

Please by the Twelve let them fix Thancred! T.T

(But from the screenshot in the patch notes, it would appear they have not…)

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The nose job has been around so long I borderline wonder if he'd look funny if they tried to give him the old one back.

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Originally Posted by Winyumi

I was looking back on this just now and figured I'd share a comparison update as it has been quite a while.

It sure has come a long way since 7.0. The eyes in 7.45 are slightly more open compared to 7.21. I've included an edited version, superimposing 6.x's eyes and lips with matched lighting.

https://i.imgur.com/aNxPvBm.png

Seeing the 7.0 face again is making me relive the horrors...

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6.x is where she looked really cute, idk what devs are doing.

Well, there goes one of the main defining things between subraces.
https://i.postimg.cc/85bwDsww/wah.jpg

They do have a bit in the powerpoint claiming more eye and lip customization, but I wonder if that's truly more options or just simply more colors / gloss.... because I don't care about lipstick, I straight up want BETTER LIPS

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Originally Posted by Gaddes

They do have a bit in the powerpoint claiming more eye and lip customization, but I wonder if that's truly more options or just simply more colors / gloss.... because I don't care about lipstick, I straight up want BETTER LIPS

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My guess would be more colors and removing any clan/race exclusivity from a lot of them. If everyone has the same base head meshes, transplanting features from one race to another should be doable.

I don't like the idea, but plenty of people would.

We'll see how it goes and if mouth customization affects bones (and smiles, those damned smiles). I still hope that SE still preserves some kind of subrace identity, but its previous modus operandi doesn't instill much confidence.

P.S. I've rewatched some moments from the Keystone, and it seems like the difference is just cosmetics. Mouth structure isn't affected in any way. Oh well… I'm tired, boss.

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Originally Posted by sintea

Well, there goes one of the main defining things between subraces.

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I really hope this new system is still going to come with some kind of preset palettes like we currently have, to indicate what is the intended "normal range" for the character concept.

Overall though, I think it will actually be beneficial for unique subraces, because the current "two" per race are actually doing a lot of heavy lifting to represent all kinds of different populations across the game's settings.

It also has potential to let people do lore-compliant things that are currently beyond the reach of the character creator. For example, perhaps someone would like to cast their character as a Roegadyn of Gosetsu's clan, which would call for using a Sea Wolf with a colour well outside their permitted range.

And not that long ago I was looking at lore on Gelmorra (a combined civilisation of Hyur and Elezen) and pondering whether, given the Duskwight Elezen are descendants of the Gelmorrans who chose to remain living in the caves, there should also be Duskwight Hyur -- and suddenly there among the example characters is exactly that, a grey-skinned Hyur. So that logical lore thought-bubble could now be built into an actual character if I wanted to do so.

There will be lots of people doing weird colours for the sake of it of course, or for claiming their character is a zombie or sin eater or arcane being, but I don't think it will be bad for the existing races so long as they can maintain some kind of frame of reference for what particular clans should look like.