How could you do this to AST?

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Envoyé par KDSilver

On top of being misleading for new player who think Fey blessing is a medica equivalent while its not.
I don't know what so hard about displaying the exact potency or adjust fairy healing to the owner

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From playing SCH the worst part of the fairy skills is by far the fact that they must finish their embrace cooldown to activate any skill you use if they have just cast it. You can be sitting there for almost a whole GCD after hitting any of your fairy skills waiting for it to actually go off.

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Envoyé par SieyaM

From playing SCH the worst part of the fairy skills is by far the fact that they must finish their embrace cooldown to activate any skill you use if they have just cast it. You can be sitting there for almost a whole GCD after hitting any of your fairy skills waiting for it to actually go off.

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They fixed that in late patch in StB. Fairy would cancel anything she does when you wanted her to execute a fairy skill.

Why did they reverted this change back? I don't know, but that was a stupid choice.

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Envoyé par Liam_Harper

I'd say put fairy skills separate from the GCD again, so you can use them independently during your own heals rather being than SCH oGCD's. Having fairy heals that you can use even during GCD casts would become a SCH strength, a reason for having a minion and feed into that class identity.

I also agree on the potency. Even if they cut the potency, there's no reason why the tooltip can't reflect that. Especially when AST Star is also counted as a minion yet it has similar potency to the tooltip.

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The GCD aspect doesn’t bother me nearly as much as the pet potency, and only for accuracy’s sake, really. SCH’s most broken aspect was the independent pet GCD so I don’t see that going away. Fey Blessing and Consolation being weak doesn’t change that SCH leaks damage whenever they weave any of their oGCDs either, Aetherflow or otherwise. I think it’s more pertinent to focus on giving SCH some DPS oGCD to make up for this loss while removing hard clipping. Ideally by making it key off the spending of their healing resources. Energy Drain usage doesn’t need to be tied to it per say, but Fey Gauge definitely should be.

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Envoyé par KDSilver

They fixed that in late patch in StB. Fairy would cancel anything she does when you wanted her to execute a fairy skill.

Why did they reverted this change back? I don't know, but that was a stupid choice.

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Because their "fix" for fairies in ShB was basically to undo every improvement they had done over the course of Stormblood.

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Envoyé par Absurdity

Because their "fix" for fairies in ShB was basically to undo every improvement they had done over the course of Stormblood.

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It’s funny because it actually was a fix, just not for the players with good ping and variable latency. I’m the opposite with high ping but a stable connection so the StB version forced me to mash for multiple GCDs but this version undid those issues entirely. The only problems I have ever encountered were with Seraph and they were expected. The fairy cooldowns function perfectly, albeit with an obvious delay, but I don’t have to mash them to get them to function anymore.

The only pet issue that I’ve encountered that is highly specific is Down from the Count and knock backs interrupting Phoenix’s Everlasting Flight cast. And those are due to those fight mechanics either resummoning or affecting the pet and poor timing. To me those issues are solved by reworking Aetherflow back into Summoner’s kit so you can hold Trances through those periods and either wait to heal after or apply Whispering Dawn earlier on Scholar if it’s useful.

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Envoyé par Grimoire-M

The GCD aspect doesn’t bother me nearly as much as the pet potency, and only for accuracy’s sake, really. SCH’s most broken aspect was the independent pet GCD so I don’t see that going away. Fey Blessing and Consolation being weak doesn’t change that SCH leaks damage whenever they weave any of their oGCDs either, Aetherflow or otherwise. I think it’s more pertinent to focus on giving SCH some DPS oGCD to make up for this loss while removing hard clipping. Ideally by making it key off the spending of their healing resources. Energy Drain usage doesn’t need to be tied to it per say, but Fey Gauge definitely should be.

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Echoing this. I'm almost positive the reason they put the fairy skills on the Scholar's oGCD is because the fairy being an independent extra set of actions was one of the many factors making Scholar overpowered; neither of the other two healers could just toss out a Medica 2 instantly without even needing to create a weave window. Problem is, they fixed the clunk with the OP pet dynamic, then changed to a clunky oGCD model and nerfed the potencies. Three wrenches thrown in the mix when one would have done. Nerf the potencies. Or make them work on the Scholar's oGCD. Doing both and reintroducing clunk is where they went wrong.

What I have seen echoed across these threads is that AST is both op and lobotomized now. Would an AST main be willing to be weaker in order to have a more satisfying class to play? Wouldn't the threads erupt with "AST is dead-last in heals & DPS!"?

In regard to SCH, I have had party members die because my Fairy was like "Chill" when I press the button for an AOE heal/shield.

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Envoyé par NYCLouisGamer

What I have seen echoed across these threads is that AST is both op and lobotomized now.

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Those aren't opposed concepts. You can have simple and uninteresting design being the strongest option. The problem with AST was RNG inconsistency with cards as contributing DPS mechanic. In terms of healing potency, it had to deal with trying to reconcile Shield Healing and Regen Healing, which often lead to either being overpowered or underpowered.

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Envoyé par NYCLouisGamer

What I have seen echoed across these threads is that AST is both op and lobotomized now. Would an AST main be willing to be weaker in order to have a more satisfying class to play? Wouldn't the threads erupt with "AST is dead-last in heals & DPS!"?

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That's not even a guess. AST and SCH mains raise Caine whenever they aren't in a dead lock for first place. Because they're "more complex" than WHM, and therefore "deserve" to be more powerful. That's a tale as old as Heavensward.