Wow, Wuk Lamat is really single-handedly ruining the DT story...

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Originally Posted by arstoka

I watched the whole video. It honestly just comes off as someone who is far too invested in defending Dawntrail because of how much their tie their personal identity to it instead of an actual counter-argument for many of the primary criticisms that have been expounded upon numerous people over the year.

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For listening to her. https://media1.tenor.com/m/7WjKtALzM...o-de-wayne.gif

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Originally Posted by danken20

Just going to put this here

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I'm surprised 69 people on the planet liked this video.

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Originally Posted by arstoka

I watched the whole video. It honestly just comes off as someone who is far too invested in defending Dawntrail because of how much their tie their personal identity to it instead of an actual counter-argument for many of the primary criticisms that have been expounded upon numerous people over the year.

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That voice is exactly as soy as I imagine most of the Twitter Wuk Lamat defense force to be lmao.

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Originally Posted by MitsukiKimura

I'd be embarrassed writing what you just posted. Yes Woke lamat ruined my Dawntrail Story experience. Honest opinion, straight forward. Backseat VR scion experience.

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And the only reason was "woke" Lamat?

What's your name for Lyse then? Or if it would have been any other character?

But people like you will never understand that. All you can do is seethe and blame everyone else for stuff they don't like.

After playing through 7.2 and seeing the general response to it who would've thought that people ended up enjoying the patch a lot more because of Wuk Lamat being pushed further and further into the background? Almost like other characters and things exist, go figure. There are obviously a few other things people like about this patch too so far like the raids, but I just find it funny that the story is just that much more bearable without Wuk around 24/7 even with the flaws it still has.

Still absolutely not a fan of her...existing at all. But hopefully we just have to wait a full patch or two longer to finally breathe without Wuk Lamt being shoved down our throats.

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Originally Posted by Shialan

And the only reason was "woke" Lamat?

What's your name for Lyse then? Or if it would have been any other character?

But people like you will never understand that. All you can do is seethe and blame everyone else for stuff they don't like.

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You want reasons? Alright
Person that never understood their people's culture suddenly knows how to bring back dead crops with a festival with no explanation
Talking about peace and happiness of her people drove me insane thinking she could lead a country with only this reason felt like disney writing to me
It personally felt like this was her story and we're just sitting back for the ride the amount of talking she done. Has more voice lines in one expansion than any other cast member out of 5 expansions.
We cant even have a final battle without her in it. Killed my experience and enjoyment.
"But people like me will never understand that"
Give me an option she'd be thrown out a window I just hope she's gone by 8.0 and I never have to see her again.

If DT's head NA localizer, Kate Cwynar, did have as much influence over the story and lore as she would like us to believe—and if it’s true that she was heavily involved in hiring Wuk’s NA voice actor, Sena Bryer (as one might expect, given her role as voice director for NA)—then it’s not unreasonable to conclude that Wuk’s massive presence in DT is tied to the localizer’s wokeness (or whatever you want to call it).

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Originally Posted by Shialan

And the only reason was "woke" Lamat?

What's your name for Lyse then? Or if it would have been any other character?

But people like you will never understand that. All you can do is seethe and blame everyone else for stuff they don't like.

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Birds of hate, generally flock together. It's a waste of time to engage with people that use dehumanizing language like that. Anyone that uses woke or soy unironically obviously has an inferiority complex.

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Originally Posted by Gunz_Zbestest

Anyone that uses woke or soy unironically obviously has an inferiority complex.

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It depends. Maybe we need a better term than “too woke” to describe writers being overly cautious and afraid to create complex fictional characters or societies that are anything less than 100% sterile and perfect—especially when those societies are based on real-world cultures—for fear of offending people from those backgrounds. I’ve even “met” a South American player who said he suspects that’s exactly what the DT writers were afraid of.

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Originally Posted by JohnLakeside

It depends. Maybe we need a better term than “too woke” to describe writers being overly cautious and afraid to create complex fictional characters or societies that are anything less than 100% sterile and perfect—especially when those societies are based on real-world cultures—for fear of offending people from those backgrounds. I’ve even “met” a South American player who said he suspects that’s exactly what the DT writers were afraid of.

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Here's a question, do you even know what the term "woke" means? Let me Gubal that for you.

woke(verb): alert to and concerned about social injustice and discrimination.

If you're saying the writers are being alarmist? Then I don't think so - even people who have different beliefs actually can still write a shoddy story for 7.0/7.1. To be fair, we also didn't have "Wuk shoved down our throats" as people are claiming this time because Sphene needed development from her cryostasis of 400 years. Sure, Wuk was present, but she was a little better in 7.2 than she was in the previous two patches - which is an improvement. I won't call it perfect either.

In general though, I think they made good on culture, just did it wrong with Wuk not having any depth. Whoever has taken over the writing has done a better job, though I'm still wondering how they're going to finish out the expansion story. They at least aren't going to the length that post-patch EW was with a giant nostalgia trip - but I think that they used the references better instead of outright copy pasta-ing story beats/villains while mixing a tiny bit of XIV in.