That Which He Does Not Play

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

You guys were the first to all come in his thread and attack him, some even going as low as saying that he didnt have x mount x achievement or whatever and that his opinion didnt matter, some even saying he was an alt so he has no opinion, and that the people agreeing with him are all alts with each other.

What do you expect exactly ? If people were a tiny bit mature, it wouldnt be this way.

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Attacking him...by calling the thread bait? Is that REALLY an attack? You know what I'd call an attack? You lying on me and others in this very thread because you cant handle others not sharing the same hate for this that you do. You've easily been the most antagonistic person in this thread.

God forbid people wonder if the OP has actually done some content seeing as they're on an alt here. I wouldn't be pissed if someone questioned my credentials based on my character here as it has nothing above 90. I wouldn't feel attacked if folks did that cause it's fair. I never said folks who agree with him are alts, I pointed out that some people always hop in to defend every take of his (just as yall point out some hop in to refute every point of his).

You talking about maturity with your post history is the biggest joke here tbh.
And another funny part? You want to be taken seriously...yet you continue to pay monthly for a product you claim is NOTHING but the bare minimum with crap devs. Who's the real fool here?

I am forced to question why there's so much backlash over mere criticism. So what if someone complains about the game a lot? Voicing criticism is not the same thing as disliking a product. There's nothing wrong with pointing out flaws, whether real or perceived, in a product you care about. It's fine to disagree with someone's criticisms, but trying to tell them their opinion is objectively wrong is pretty stupid.

People don't make forum posts looking to be "proven wrong" anyway. People that are proven wrong normally won't admit they're wrong no matter what is said to them, and this goes for a large number of posters on here whether they realize it or not.

It seems to me quite a few posters believe this thread to be a case of someone that wouldn't accept being wrong regardless of circumstances. If this is the case -- or if this is a bait thread -- then I've but one question: why bother?

Friendly reminder that Yoshida is a suit and you should treat him as such.

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Originally Posted by kaynide

Oh snap!
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/zQQAA...r0/s-l1600.jpg

(Sorry, couldn’t help it…)

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This is brilliant. Truly a modern day art masterpiece.

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Originally Posted by Oizen

Friendly reminder that Yoshida is a suit and you should treat him as such.

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First of all he is a human like his workers are, so pay all of them respect :)

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

Oh hey look, Aveyond switched ALts XD

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I can do that too! Whatever your forum avatar is still doesn't mean anything.

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Originally Posted by Absimiliard

I am forced to question why there's so much backlash over mere criticism. So what if someone complains about the game a lot? Voicing criticism is not the same thing as disliking a product. There's nothing wrong with pointing out flaws, whether real or perceived, in a product you care about. It's fine to disagree with someone's criticisms, but trying to tell them their opinion is objectively wrong is pretty stupid.

People don't make forum posts looking to be "proven wrong" anyway. People that are proven wrong normally won't admit they're wrong no matter what is said to them, and this goes for a large number of posters on here whether they realize it or not.

It seems to me quite a few posters believe this thread to be a case of someone that wouldn't accept being wrong regardless of circumstances. If this is the case -- or if this is a bait thread -- then I've but one question: why bother?

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The backlash isn't directed at criticism (most of it anyways). It's directed at certain types n topics of criticism. If I was to make a thread about my enjoyment of the current state of healing I'd be insulted and ragged on by many of ths threads supporters.
It's a 2 way issue.

Pointing out what you think are flaws is fine. But people have the right to counter those points all the same. It's not the case in every instances but there ARE times where you can tell someone their opinion is objectively wrong. Like saying Yoshi only cares about content effecting him. That's is an objectively false opinion to have. Just how it is sometimes

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Originally Posted by Absimiliard

I am forced to question why there's so much backlash over mere criticism. So what if someone complains about the game a lot? Voicing criticism is not the same thing as disliking a product. There's nothing wrong with pointing out flaws, whether real or perceived, in a product you care about. It's fine to disagree with someone's criticisms, but trying to tell them their opinion is objectively wrong is pretty stupid.

People don't make forum posts looking to be "proven wrong" anyway. People that are proven wrong normally won't admit they're wrong no matter what is said to them, and this goes for a large number of posters on here whether they realize it or not.

It seems to me quite a few posters believe this thread to be a case of someone that wouldn't accept being wrong regardless of circumstances. If this is the case -- or if this is a bait thread -- then I've but one question: why bother?

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Usually the problem is that when somebody starts to believe in the smell of their own farts, it starts to get very annoying and that's been the case with aveyond who has a strong record for terrible takes.

Just like how he believes that he shouldnt be silenced for spewing out his opinions so do people also shouldn't be silenced for challenging them

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Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44

https://img2.finalfantasyxiv.com/acc...917.1654817530

Happened in the other thread too, where I said that certain people were using a double standard. You inserted yourself in, I told you clearly that I wasn't talking about you (multiple times might I add), and you still insisted that you were being lumped into a us vs. them situation. So sorry, I don't believe that elsewhere you are genuinely getting lumped into groups you don't belong in/labeled by other posters. I can't believe you because you do it to yourself so much.

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That picture doesnt really make sense....again, you make it sound like you're the only one, when there are multiple people.
I didnt lump myself in with the crowd and then get mad at you.

Also....know what...Can you provide a quote of the interaction? Because now Im getting the idea that maybe things are being misunderstood.
Maybe one or both of us arnt being as clear as possible, or intentions are just not understood.

I'm gonna go on a tangent and repeat a major criticism I do have with the game:

The minions earned from the level 87, 89, and 90 dungeons in their last treasure coffers are still "Market Prohibited". The patch is currently two patches ahead of the main story. There is no point in making them "Market Prohibited" anymore. What is happening now with certain minions and orchestrion rolls as mentioned can set a rather bad precedent for future expansions, especially with the extremely low drop rates. And the minion from the "Stigma Dreamscape" dungeon is just as spoiler worthy as the three minions.

Time after time, someone either tried to play devil's advocate against what I said the and/or this point became ignored altogether because people would not even care unless it affected them directly. Would I be upset? Absolutely. Would I make a big fuss about it? No.

It is what it is and the only things I can do to get my points across are to get them as concise, detailed, and reasonable as I can.