If it's quested then it will not be limited anyway..and why would you limit a race that alot of people want and have waited for? How would it be fair? Shouldn't those people have the option to play as a character they wanted as so many others did. I agree with Cairdeas there is no point in doing that..
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07-29-2011, 03:48 AMCoombah
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07-29-2011, 04:06 AMArcellI'd be fine with this. I mean we already have big manly dude options (Highland Hyur, male Roegadyn) so why not have some more variety?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nabiri
It's not a female only race like XI though. There's no lore saying that the don't have males or that they're rare. Just like female Roegadyn they exist in the lore but we just didn't ever see them (previously).Quote:
Originally Posted by SoraLeoyfaith
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07-29-2011, 04:29 AMRimmer
I'd like some feminine male type cat man too!
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07-30-2011, 12:40 PMZelas
I'm all for that too. :)
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07-30-2011, 01:16 PMzaviermhigo
Btw you only need one man in a colony to reproduce, its gross but just saying. Even if both miqotes clan only had one dude, they could survive, they just wouldn't be very genetically fit :p But seriously in nature there are less males than females, give that "men can shoot loads more than women can ovulate." I say, miqote females had sex with the males, popped out the baby, the female goes back to battling and tells the manqote to get back in the kitchen (haha love saying that, usually males say it to us)
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07-30-2011, 02:14 PMDeadRiser
Wow, finally seen her in game. She looks awesome. So glad that I can play as one, and seeing what the female Roe's look like, I'm definately putting this miqo'te to rest
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07-30-2011, 06:12 PMValiantSota
Hmm not sure how a female roegadyn would look like, in all honesty they can go 2 routes. Option number 1, strong "Snu-Snu" body building She-hulk Roega or Option number 2 , a close resemblance to a duskwight elezen female but with some features that would set them apart. ~shrugs only time can tell what they decide on. Being a male I'd hope to see option 2 <_< I scare easily of big bulky woman lol
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07-30-2011, 06:38 PMCairdeasQuote:
Originally Posted by ValiantSota
Valiant.. You haven't been paying attention have you? They've already shown the designs for Female Roegadyn, and theres already one in game....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0IKsrg4rQI
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...1-13-27-17.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...1-13-19-02.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...1-13-07-61.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...1-12-52-37.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...1-12-35-63.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/PU6xt.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/qC1lr.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/NpVxC.png
http://i.imgur.com/qQgPs.jpg
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/e...3-18-16-10.jpg
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07-30-2011, 09:06 PMRimmerShe has a nice big rack. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Cairdeas
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07-30-2011, 10:29 PMCoombahI agree, It would work out nicely just like the highlander and midlander.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nabiri
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07-30-2011, 11:09 PMKio
That would be a good compromise. Rather than the sun/moon clans being a mere devide in color options, instead having a slightly different build for the males.
What I picture by the way, isnt a highlander with a tail stuck on his rump. But rather a character that looks more like your typical anime style boy. With large eyes and lots of hair fringe. Not too tall, and not overly built. And somewhat youthful in appearence.
I'm not really for just making a flat chested female and calling it a male like they did in xi, that personally kinda creeped me out a lot. Heehee.
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07-30-2011, 11:51 PMCairdeas
I kinda see the Male Sun Miqo'tes being more muscular and tan while the Male moon Miqo'tes are paler and softer.
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07-31-2011, 04:41 PMZelas
Must...see...concept art... ; n ;
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08-01-2011, 02:32 PMNabiriI would actually prefer they be mostly just a divide in colour options.. So people don't get upset or something like "Why did the Sun/Moon males get stuck as the buff ones?!? I like ____ better but I can't play them with my clan! q_q"Quote:
Originally Posted by Kio
I was thinking if they would put bigger dudes and skinnier more fem dudes in that they should have the choice for both clans.
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08-01-2011, 03:31 PMRabidSquirrel
A Ronso-like male Miqo'te? Ick. Just give them the same stature as male Midlanders.
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08-01-2011, 04:15 PMAkashi
Looking forward to all three, as is my girlfriend! She was quite grumpy when she found out she couldn't make a female highlander and was even more grumpy when she found out she couldn't make a female Roegadyn.. and I would like to play a male Miqo'te (albiet not an overly feminine one). Help us Yoshi-P!
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08-01-2011, 10:22 PMPitri
Just did the mission with the female Roegadyn... She is SO FREAKING COOL LOOKING :Q_________ But i cant wait for male miqote!!
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08-02-2011, 09:24 AMPetori
I want Merlwyb's coat!
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08-02-2011, 01:02 PMzaviermhigo
As a female it makes me happy to say "male miqotes won't be seen for awhile because they're too busy in the kitchen" LOL Yoshi P will add some lore about them getting angry (think angry housewives associations in hitchhikers guide to the galaxy) and asking for rights, and we gave em to them ^^ (this is half joking lol as there's always that male that says "she should be in the kitchen")
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08-02-2011, 02:53 PMthenewzeroLooking at the screen shots, I really have to say I totally agree. She looks amazing. I feel like they did such a good job of capturing the essence of Roegadyn, making her stronger and broader, without making her look like a man with a bra on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pitri
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08-02-2011, 03:20 PMPitriwhen they add them ill make mine be a culinarian just for you hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by zaviermhigo
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08-12-2011, 06:22 AMCairdeas
I wanna see Merlwyb in a Bikini
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08-12-2011, 06:39 AMKailea_Nagisa
I am going to treat every male Miqo'te I see with a bit of annoyance, they should have stayed at home, they will only get in my way....the weak little men.
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08-12-2011, 06:41 AMArcell
To be fair this isn't XI and the same excuse isn't used. Unless I'm mistaken there's really not a lot of lore at all concerning male Miqo'te.
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08-15-2011, 07:32 AMCoombahNot the same lore and I think you will be sadly mistaken to consider them weak. We need screen shots!Quote:
Originally Posted by Kailea_Nagisa
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08-15-2011, 09:16 PMNatabantThat or at least some concept art, I wanna see some male Miqotes D:Quote:
Originally Posted by Coombah
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08-22-2011, 10:40 AMZaireeka2025Here's your male Miqo'te concept art: Thundercats! Hoooo!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Natabant
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08-22-2011, 10:57 AMNatabantOh god I hope thats not what they end up looking like XD.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zaireeka2025
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08-23-2011, 01:25 AMCoombah
Concept Art SE ! PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASSSSSSSSSSSSSSEEEE!
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08-23-2011, 01:39 AMCeltodeno
Does anyone know if we will have any chance to switch Sex/race when these new sex/races are implemented?
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08-23-2011, 01:52 AMChreesIndeed we will, my friend. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Celtodeno
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08-23-2011, 03:52 AMCeltodeno
Yesss. That's makin me feel good!
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08-23-2011, 05:12 AMCoombah
It's def a relief, going back to do everything over would be a nightmare.
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08-23-2011, 05:41 AMLaiferr
I love Merlwyb <3 can't wait to see what different looks we can create for female Roegadyn! seriously considering changing.
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08-23-2011, 04:26 PMNabiriBig muscly creatures?!?! No thanks! XDQuote:
Originally Posted by Zaireeka2025
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08-24-2011, 02:52 AMShelia
I have a gut feeling these added races will never happen for players, considering they've never even mentioned the PS3 release date. Ever.
The game might completely go under before anything significant happens, to be honest. If FFXIV can manage this overhaul before the release of Guild Wars 2 and perhaps SWTOR, maybe the game will survive. Even then, they wouldn't be able to charge a subscription fee for the game. FFXIV doesn't have enough of a demographic to make money off of a subscription. I mean, the game is completely free to play as it is right now... and there's barely anybody ever playing. I'm on a mid-rate population server, and it's practically a ghost town. How are they going to manage a sub fee for this game with less than 50,000 players collectively across all servers? Not to mention all the bad press surrounding this game already. I'm sure most people who were looking to buy the PS3 release will not buy it now, due to how horrible it sounds. Realistically, the only way this game will survive is if:
1.) It is completely overhauled. Classic jobs, classing leveling (none of this Rank level/Class level bullcrap) actual things to do, less horrible crafting, more zones, more armor that doesn't look like the same thing copy pasted with different colors, added genders, more customization.
2.) It stays free to play. Subscription-based games are completely going out the window in this day and age. DDO, LOTRO, Age of Conan, Champions Online, All Points Bulletin- All were sub-based games that tanked due to a lack of a player base... they went f2p with cash shops, and basically rose like a phoenix from the ashes. People flocked to these games in droves, and now these games are doing better than they ever did with a subscription based plan. Other game developers know this, and they are quickly following suit. I mean, look at Guild Wars. One of the most successful MMOs to date, and they're box-to-play (buy the game, free forever) with an optional cash shop for stuff like costumes and extra character slots. FFXIV *might* survive if it stays free.
3.) They re-market the game, and market it aggressively. If FFXIV relaunches after GW2... it basically won't have a snowball's chance in hell (especially if they keep the subscription fee model). GW2 isn't out yet and doesn't even have a release date... yet their developers are marketing the game at conventions and through twitter all the time. A very large part of making a game successful is building a fanbase. FFXIV never bothered doing that, outside of the open beta.
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08-24-2011, 04:04 AMArcell
GW2 caters to a completely different audience. I enjoyed the first one but the 2nd one looks kind of meh to me. Some of the ideas are cool but only if they can actually pull them off. Generally a lot of game devs talk things up a lot but when it comes to implementation it's much less than promised. Not saying it's going to be bad, just not as great as everyone's making it out to be.
If FFXIV survived this long, it'll do just fine. People are always saying every new MMO is going to kill this game. Rift didn't kill this game, SW:TOR doesn't look like it's going to kill this game, GW2 won't kill this game.
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08-24-2011, 04:22 AMCendres
As far as we know they are working on the new genders, the PS3 will happen. Until SE drops a bomb and tells us otherwise I'm going to assume new genders and barber shop are on the way. I'm not saying closing down of this mmo isn't possible, because it is, but there's no point in giving up when there's a game to be played. And I'll play it until I'm forced off the servers.
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08-24-2011, 04:26 AMSheliaIt must be nice living in complete naivete.Quote:
GW2 caters to a completely different audience. I enjoyed the first one but the 2nd one looks kind of meh to me. Some of the ideas are cool but only if they can actually pull them off. Generally a lot of game devs talk things up a lot but when it comes to implementation it's much less than promised. Not saying it's going to be bad, just not as great as everyone's making it out to be.
If FFXIV survived this long, it'll do just fine. People are always saying every new MMO is going to kill this game. Rift didn't kill this game, SW:TOR doesn't look like it's going to kill this game, GW2 won't kill this game.
Honestly I enjoy this game quite a bit these days, it's come leaps and bounds since launch. Just because you don't like it or the proposed changes doesn't mean it's a failed game.
Rift wasn't very good. It will also probably go free to play soon. You haven't even seen true competition yet. Just wait.
Also GW2 looks meh? Dude, what are you even reading?
Every single person, press or otherwise, has said GW2 is extremely polished and it's only in alpha stages right now. It's completely obliterating all the Gamecom polls (as much as 75~57% of the votes) for best game in show. I suggest you read info that isn't from 2008. -
08-24-2011, 04:37 AMArcellI'm a person and my opinion is that while it doesn't look bad, it doesn't look amazingly great. That's my opinion and I'm entitled to it. The gameplay videos I've seen for gun classes looks a lot like back-peddle, activate skills, rinse repeat. Those are the ones I'd be most interested in. Compare that to say PSO2 where the gun classes get full 3rd-person shooter type gameplay and that holds my interest a lot more. I may still pick up GW2 but it's likely not going to be my main focus. Again, opinion that I'm entitled to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shelia
Just because my opinion differs from yours doesn't mean you can look down on me like some naive little punk. Quit being so damn condescending and maybe your argument would come across better.
Rift may not have been much competition but people still claimed it would kill this game and guess what? It hardly bothered it. GW2 and SW:TOR are probably decent games but they're not going to kill FFXIV. MMOs tend to not kill each other, but they do fail on their own merit or lack thereof.