Data Centers/World Locations Info from the LIVE Letter

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Originally Posted by Wynn

Atomos break!

Ok, let's clarify something up front. I realize people develop real friendships in online games. It happens every day.

That said, there is a huge difference between a real friend and a in-game "friend."

One is not going to abandon you no matter what because that's what friends do. The other will drop you on a dime if it benefits them because they aren't really your friend.

Shocking, I know.

Real friends interact outside of the game. Even if it's just email in the case of people who live far away from each other. I'd even go so far as to say if your entire relationship with a person is simply that you play more than one game concurrently together simply because you enjoy each other's company, you are real friends.

Guarantee you that the person described above isn't going to up and move to another server on you.

You see, my friends don't play this game. But if they did, I would play on their server. Why? Because they are my friends and I would want to play with them.

However, if all you do is play XIV with someone and there is no other interaction what so ever. News flash: You're probably not friends and there is a good chance that they would up and disappear on you if it benefited them to do so.

This is why some people are up in arms right now. Because it threatens the foundation of their entire social cosmos.

Cute dig about the friends. The fact is, it is because I have real friends that this idea that someone I've played with on the internet for a year or more might not really be my friend and dissappear tomorrow doesn't rock my reality right down to its core.

And if you really want to talk about thinking about others. This entire situation boils down to a handful of people who want to force others to play with them against their will. That's not thinking of others. That's exploiting others.

If that's the "community" you refer to, I want no part of it.

Quite frankly, it's disturbing.

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Nice long post but not everyone's personal life is limited or separated between in-game friends and Real life friends. I lived in Paris for awhile and during that time i made a friend who i can now only play with online but does that mean hes not a friend? I originally got into FFXI in Japan where i was a transfer student for 2 years, friends who i still play with now, friends who i visited twice since then and who have come visited me, are they not my friends? I have friends who i chill with at home and ones i can only play with online, just because i can't meet with them outside the game every day does not mean they are not friends.

Point being your personal situation is you have real life friends and online friends, with the clean separation between the two but not everyone personal life follows the same pattern. I'm not trying to force anyone to play against their will, the game was originally sold as being a global international game. Everyone knew this since ffxi days and before ffxiv release so those of us who want global servers are the ones being forced out.

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I'm calling you out on your appeal to tradition, which means that you're arguing with a logical fallacy, which means that your argument is invalid.

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I'd love to see you defend the implementation of Moogles, Chocobos, Malboros, etc without appealing to tradition. They chose to do a series game with 13 installments before it. They have no reason to add a lot of stuff XIV has besides the fact "Fans have grown accustomed to it".

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Originally Posted by Reika

Grammer just fine. My point is they havent had a stress test for 2.0 servers yet. Maybe you shouldn't shoot it down before it happens.

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I expect to hear back from when we find out that Alpha is not a lag-free, perfectly flawless experience.

SE. Please, please reconsider this.

I end up repeating myself again..but what's the point of copying a standard MMO that all end up failing after a couple months? What's so good about destroying everything unique and good about this game?

I do not like my community being destroyed. I strongly, very strongly disagree with this decision.

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Originally Posted by Shura

Nice long post but not everyone's personal life is limited or separated between in-game friends and Real life friends. I lived in Paris for awhile and during that time i made a friend who i can now only play with online but does that mean hes not a friend? I originally got into FFXI in Japan where i was a transfer student for 2 years, friends who i still play with now, friends who i visited twice since then and who have come visited me, are they not my friends? I have friends who i chill with at home and ones i can only play with online, just because i can't meet with them outside the game every day does not mean they are not friends.

Point being your personal situation is you have real life friends and online friends, with the clean separation between the two but not everyone personal life follows the same pattern. I'm not trying to force anyone to play against their will, the game was originally sold as being a global international game. Everyone knew this since ffxi days and before ffxiv release so those of us who want global servers are the ones being forced out.

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You're not being forced anywhere. Continue playing on the same server you have always played on.

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Originally Posted by Rokien

Well in there defense, I did warn everyone WAY before this announcement. You guys had your chance to speak up then.

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Maybe people would read your thoughts on relevant topics if you didn't post so much bullsh*t in 248729 other threads.
Now back to your hole with you.


The statement about the data centers was unclear from the beginning, but hardly anyone could believe that SE would eliminate one of the key-features of their game, which make it so unique and lovable.

There are other games with servers located in Japan - none of them has lag issues as XIV does. Fix your code instead of ripping apart the community. And if its fixed already, screw those data centers.

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Originally Posted by Wynn

You're not being forced anywhere. Continue playing on the same server you have always played on.

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Agree with that

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Originally Posted by Darshu

I'd love to see you defend the implementation of Moogles, Chocobos, Malboros, etc without appealing to tradition.

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Wow, really? Really?

And just who would I have to defend it against? You?

Please realize what an appeal to tradition is about, and I'll tell you that even if someone complains about implementing a classical FF staple, I would never resort to a "well because we've always had chocobos" argument.

Because that is what happens when you learn about formal errors of reasoning and logical fallacies. You stop resorting to such arguments.

How many people are willing to sacrifice some performance to keep it the same as it is now though?
Sure 2.0 should have better latency all around but the lag will still be there if the data center stays in Japan only.

One of the biggest complaints about FFXIV 1.0 is the lag in everything we do as a whole. I am not entirely sure what people are trying to get done here; I thought we all wanted to minimize lag as much as possible and yet here we are complaining about data centers that will reduce lag.

This is confusing.

I'm also confident they knew this would upset a lot of people, and that's why they took so long to truly explain what they meant by multiple data centers.

They are not catering to the current audience, which is rather small compared to what's expected to become after 2.0. Outside players don't give a shit about a one world system, since they have never experienced it, so our complaints are probably useless.