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I think that it's likely that Garlemald will return to being a republic, though I don't believe such an approach to be a necessity. Although Ala Mhigo chose to abandon its monarchy, Doma did not do so. I think it'd be interesting to have an Emperor established as a contact moving forward, to help make world affairs feel less inorganic each time the leaders of the Eorzean Alliance and Hien decide to take their seats at the table to discuss current events.

As far as successors are concerned, it's not impossible that Zenos has a living relative out there who is much more suited to the position. Alternatively, some other Garlean could simply take up the position out of necessity in order to guide their people towards a more peaceful era of prosperity. Magitek is extremely useful and Garleans excel at its use and creation - so that would make for a good resource to trade. Given how big and strong they are, I imagine plenty of Pureblood Garleans would have quite a solid career as adventurers, mercenaries and bodyguards too.

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Originally Posted by Bright-Flower

Being overly punitive wouldn't be a good idea. It would just create more fertile ground for future conflict, like what happened with Germany between WW 1 and WW 2.

And honestly big changes are going to be a necessity if Garlemald survives as a nation anyway. With Varis and Solus gone and Zenos being...Zenos I don't think there's really a clear successor to the throne.

Maybe they'll go back to being a republic and get rid of the monarchy. That's what they were before Emet-Selch stepped in anyway.

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I can see them going back to become a republic with conquered territories who choose to remain part of Garlemald having a seat in the Senate. With the Garlean civil wars, war for independence and Final Days recreation, I don't think many nations will have it in them to invade Garlemald and I'm sure Scions and WoL will let them see the error of their ways if they even suggest it.

I am curious about Nerva though. Will he be power hungry or will he be young and well-intentioned, but inexperienced?

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Originally Posted by GoldStarz

You're talking about two completely different type of conflicts. The Dragonsong War was a war that was waged on both sides, while Garlemald is empire that has and continues to attempt to colonize other nations. Any body that engages in hostility with Garlemald inherently has a moral high ground in that conflict of either defense, reclamation, or liberation; the only exception I can think of is if you are attempting to do something similar to what Noah Gabranth is doing and building your own empire off of re-captured pieces of land.

I don't think arguing the particulars of how the Eorzean Alliance would treat with Garlemald upon winning the war matters since it looks like the empire (or at least the capitol and presumably most major members of their governing body) are going to be obliterated, but it wouldn't surprise me if this still plays out where the Garleans are more or less put back in the little corner of the world after everything shakes out and Ilsabard starts to re-stabilize.

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You must consider what gave rose to the Garlean stance towards their neighbours. They attempted to conquer the Garleans routinely, until Garlemald outsmarted and subjugated them. As a nation that experienced the worst side of their neighbours, due to their inability by and large to manipulate aether, they don't have a particularly positive view of them; they probably extend this view to the Eorzeans as well. And I'm sorry, but I consider it baseless to say that anyone who engages in hostility towards Garlemald inherently has a "moral high ground". Several of their colonial territories appear to have none, based on what I mentioned (bearing in mind we know from SB side quests that the nature of Garlean rule differs in severity across its colonies, with some seeing little change from before), and we saw this play out in Doma and Bozja as well, where there are those native to them who want nothing to do with the restoration of their original regimes, because they regard them as unjust.

As for the Dragonsong War, yes, it was waged on both sides, but entirely due to Ishgard's own actions, and continued thanks to Ishgard perpetuating deception about its origins. They just happened to cross a foe with a very different sense of time to theirs. His point stands - if the dragons, some of whom were alive when the Ishgardian nobles perpetrated their betrayal - can ultimately forgive following Nidhogg's demise, then in order to avoid sowing the future seeds of conflict, the Alliance can allow those Garlean survivors to determine their own way forward. City-states with questionable pasts when they were independent - including Doma - were afforded this opportunity. I don't see why those surviving Garleans, who may very well have not agreed with the imperial stance, or seen it as a necessity due to the Empire's beliefs about Primals, need to be punished for it. Emet-Selch, as Theodric mentioned, even praises the MC in Kholusia for not taking such a path. Imposing on the remaining Garleans a regime which they do not want will simply sow the seeds of future conflict.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

I think that it's likely that Garlemald will return to being a republic, though I don't believe such an approach to be a necessity. Although Ala Mhigo chose to abandon its monarchy, Doma did not do so. I think it'd be interesting to have an Emperor established as a contact moving forward, to help make world affairs feel less inorganic each time the leaders of the Eorzean Alliance and Hien decide to take their seats at the table to discuss current events.

As far as successors are concerned, it's not impossible that Zenos has a living relative out there who is much more suited to the position. Alternatively, some other Garlean could simply take up the position out of necessity in order to guide their people towards a more peaceful era of prosperity. Magitek is extremely useful and Garleans excel at its use and creation - so that would make for a good resource to trade. Given how big and strong they are, I imagine plenty of Pureblood Garleans would have quite a solid career as adventurers, mercenaries and bodyguards too.

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Possibly along the lines of Archades, with an elected Emperor/monarch.

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Originally Posted by myahele

I can see them going back to become a republic with conquered territories who choose to remain part of Garlemald having a seat in the Senate. With the Garlean civil wars, war for independence and Final Days recreation, I don't think many nations will have it in them to invade Garlemald and I'm sure Scions and WoL will let them see the error of their ways if they even suggest it.

I am curious about Nerva though. Will he be power hungry or will he be young and well-intentioned, but inexperienced?

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“Marcus Cocceius Nerva was Roman emperor from 96 to 98 CE, and his reign brought stability after the turbulent successions of his predecessors. In addition, Nerva helped establish the foundations for a new golden era for Rome which his chosen successor Trajan would bring to full fruition.“
If they’re basing it off of him i’d say he’ll be a good ruler.

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Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami

“Marcus Cocceius Nerva was Roman emperor from 96 to 98 CE, and his reign brought stability after the turbulent successions of his predecessors. In addition, Nerva helped establish the foundations for a new golden era for Rome which his chosen successor Trajan would bring to full fruition.“
If they’re basing it off of him i’d say he’ll be a good ruler.

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I wonder if Nerva will be a Larsa-like figure? In Yotsuyu's short story, it was said that Titus lacked a "ready heir" so maybe that could imply that Nerva was too young at the time for any official duties?

That’s what i had assumed. We hear Lyon call him a coward but i had made the point before that the Empire could’ve called Larsa a coward for attempting to negotiate with the “enemy”. I feel the same situation could apply here. A lot of people are assuming Nerva is just going to be killed off but they wouldn’t name drop the man numerous times and they wouldn’t name him something so specific if that was the case. People just need to use their heads lol.

Lyon is a man who prefers being straight on the battlefield and call any unwilling to step on it cowards. That means Nerva is either more of a cowardly politician who prefers doing the talk, or he's a pacifist who hates the constant wars and subjugating of others. Either one could get Lyon's ire, and it increases the chances that Nerva could be somebody worth talking to and making deals with. If he's a cowardly politician, we're basically going to knock on his door and force a deal on him, as he isn't going to cross the the one who beat down Zenos. If he's a pacifist, it's very likely he knows of the Scions and will be willing to call upon our help to quell the chaos in Garlemald and bring peace back to the region (and possibly the world). Either way, Nerva is likely to play a big role in Endwalker, and possibly beyond.

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Originally Posted by Kuroka

I still wonder what we and G'raha gotta do in that old pvp area... already looking for our flight to the moon?

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I'm half-expecting this new conflict at Carteneau to just be a setup on Fandaniel's part seeing as all of the lunar primals and tempered from Eorzea's regions seem to be massed over there.

The destruction of the lunar primals coupled with the deaths of tempered/Alliance soldiers would release a massive amount of aether which is likely going to be used as a catalyst for something unpleasant...and with the moon shining ominously above I have a strong hunch.

I'm sure he's going to present another ultimatum and demand that the Eorzean Alliance face them in battle there or else he'll send his forces to attack the city-states, so it's probably a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" scenario.

Carteneau Flats, as we all know, is the epicenter of the last calamity that actually succeeded in our timeline. It could be that our confrontation with Lunar Bahamut at Pagl'than along with Tiamat causes Fandango to have need of re-attunement with Bahamut's aether. Has to go reacquire Lunarwyrm Trance, if you will.

It's also where we launched Omega from, and perhaps is the center storehouse for Allagan knowledge. Mayhaps he has need of it, and the Lunar Primals are only all there because they're his guard.

Of course, that wouldn't really mesh well with being the Showman that he is, and also why not go there in the first place without alerting us to himself?

Of course, it is on the border of Mor Dhona, where Silvertear Lake is located. It also has an area called the, "Heliodrome" or "Sun Structure(or Race track)." Not really sure if that's the same spot as the, "Allagan Sun Temple" but with what we know about the WoL's past... I have a faint suspicion that we're about to have our mind's blown. I hope.

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Originally Posted by Kuroka

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I still wonder what we and G'raha gotta do in that old pvp area... already looking for our flight to the moon?

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I'll go out on limb here and guess, because Alisaie is present with a porxie, they can broadcast detempering stuff to negate the towers?