Against "Simultaneous Logout Measures"

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Originally Posted by NefarioCall

I can't imagine that this will actually do much...
I mean, after all the people cram to log back in, the AFKers will just go back to AFKing for another 24 hours...

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I don't mind the 10 min downtime since it's scheduled and we can plan around it...

But I'd rather they only did this on problem realms, and I agree with the quoted statement: people will just log back in after the reboot and go back to AFKing.

Though, they have to try something because AFKing IS getting out of hand on a number of servers.

I don't understand why people just leave their computers on all damn day like they do.

Clearly, we're not talking about people who pay the electricity bills, here... :P

They really just need to fix their server structure. Thats how this gets fixed. I cant believe so many are ok with this lol.

You know what's awesome? You only get the warning if you happen to be on 1 hour before. Log in anywhere between that and the shut down and you'll get kicked without as much as a warning.

It isn't a ban thrown to those who abuse the afk exploit. But it's a start that they're /finally/ trying something instead of doing nothing.

They are past the 10 minute downtime and servers still not up.

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Originally Posted by NewSinz

They really just need to fix their server structure. Thats how this gets fixed. I cant believe so many are ok with this lol.

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You can't keep throwing hardware at a problem. Eventually you reach a point where the cost is unlimited or the benefit is insignificant.

For example a lot of "cloud" infrastructure is this way. It is not cost effective to move into the cloud, it's always more cost effective to buy your own equipment. BUT that comes with the caveat that the equipment price is always going down and you are always growing. If you are not growing then your hardware purchase sits mothballed. That's why many startups start with the cloud and then move out of it as quickly as possible. The costs and latency of cloud services is nearly 100X more than owning the hardware.

The problem tried to be solved here is not a hardware problem it's a people problem. If it were a hardware problem that could be sovled, they would be folding small servers into each other to save costs, therefor that is not it.

Let's melt down the server as we login! go go go lets do it!

It not that long to get back in after fresh start. After maintenbance and everyone trying to log in shorter then current queue. After maintenance it maybe like 30 minutes at most to get in which is much shorter then the 2-3 hours currently.

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Originally Posted by RubenSnizzle

Let's melt down the server as we login! go go go lets do it!

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We would but we can't because they're still down. So much for "10 minute" reboots. :/

Edit: I stand corrected. They're up after 15mins. 250 person queue on Gilga vs. 20ish before the boot.

I hate you right now Squeenix. :mad:

Well it is a rather brutish way to clean things up but it should work. I'm wondering if a better way to handle it is only reboot those servers showing backups and leave the lesser populated/smoother running servers alone. Either way I still think the benefits of a 10 minute outage out weigh the negatives at this point.