Make FFXIV more like FFXI and less like WoW

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Originally Posted by koikitty

For those that are enjoying the game and having fun. Others -Please dont try and demand changes from a team that's already busting there butt's trying to help us already. If people want more WoW, play WoW. Trust the game developers or find a new game.

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It's a pretty safe bet that if Sqenix gets enough feedback to change things they will. MMOs are not exactly pay to order but with enough player outcry things get changed. Telling people to go play another game if they don't like it is rude. Every subscriber has an equal opportunity to voice opinions and feedback.

This just keeps going huh? -.-

FFXI was nice, heck played it for 8 years myself, but I stopped, and took a break from MMOs period for a bit, thne when FFXIV started it's testing I jumped in. I will never go back to FFXI, especially now that is was ruined with Abysia. You cant take a game like FFXI, and try to turn it casual. Now I love FFXIV, it has that casual play, but has it's fun and challenging times as well.

You can not use the excuse that FFXI and FFXIV are in the same series, every FF game has been pretty different from the last. Also FFXIV is new, you can not count what was there with 1.0 -1.23 as that is all gone now, the game was reworked from the ground up. You could even call this FFXIV-2 to be honest.
Comparing a game that has been out for 3 months, to a game that has been out 10 years...... yeah that is logical ;p

I'd like to say no. Especially HNM camping... If you have too much time on your hands, why not do something else? Like go outside or take a job. Why ask for a punishing game feature that encourages botting and time wasting? And it puts skilful and dedicated players with a balanced life at a disadvantage. Unless the hnm drops inconsequential items..

So many people looking at FFXI through pink glasses.

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Originally Posted by Dannythm

I had way more fun in 1.0 (the initial release, Tanaka's game), than what I had with ARR, and 1.23 was great but only for the story and that excitement of taking part in a losing battle, and even though, trying our best, still I missed all that Tanaka wanted to create from and with this game.

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yes, it is same as i feel..
i see the skin of FF and i feel i want to play, i log in and see the go-fetich guest, the spam-fest battle system, the running from npc to npc and i feel..

i find it funny how people talk about the success of wow and how they are thinking by cloning that game will mean success to FFXIV
they didn't think of the factors that made wow a success?

wow is the 1st casual mmo and the only mmo casuals can actually play, it was the 1st time for casual to enjoy team work.
but right now casual can have that in games like that on mobile
and lots of F2P games
why would people who left wow play a clone of wow
why would FFXI who loved FFXI like a wow clone
why would other people leave all the Free to play games to play a P2P clone?

we are left with:
people who are new to MMOs who just felt the excitement of team work.
FF fan base (and yes most of us hate how FFXIV is copy from many casual games, we would like FFXIV to stay true to its roots)

when people say there are 1.8 mil subscribers which is more than what FFXI had, well there are factors as well:
back then the net wasn't as good and as wide spread as now.
right now more people play online and pay online unlike back then.

and btw the number of people who actually renewed there subscription are less than 1 mil =)
why? many reasons, there are many other MMOs that are the same, so nothing new to them.
there are many games that got released like GTA and you know how casuals jumps from one thing to another.
there are mobile easy games as well where they can enjoy the same type of games =)

as for hardcore, they did everything in a month or a lil more, even though FFXI had lvl 50 cap and no end game it was playable for a whole year..
now with less than half a year people are screaming for content. and the content that was released a while ago was meh..
plus, the game isnt deep enough to stay in one's heart -.-

WoW has managed to accomodate several skill levels for their game. Ranging from Granparents playing to feats that only a handful of people in the world have managed to complete.

Sounds like SE needs to start cloning better if their copies are inferior to their originals.

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Originally Posted by Despite

It's a pretty safe bet that if Sqenix gets enough feedback to change things they will. MMOs are not exactly pay to order but with enough player outcry things get changed. Telling people to go play another game if they don't like it is rude. Every subscriber has an equal opportunity to voice opinions and feedback.

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You do realise that opinions on the forums are from a very small minority of the playerbase, the majority dont post, they play the game or just leave if they aren't enjoying it.

Not all games can or will appeal to everyone, if I enjoy a MMO and with a great group of people (fc/guild) I'll keep playing and having fun. If that changes and the direction it's going or other reasons stop me having fun. I walk away.

Don't know if someone mentioned this, but we need something in the next expansion like campaign. Like how in FFXI, fighting over the world gave you domination over that land, and every Sunday the nation with the most slayed enemies in a certain area had influence in that area. Stuff like outpost were cheaper, and lots of other things. It brought pride to your faction. FFXI has been going on for years, and people loved it. I do hope they pull the greater ideas from the game.

With these large free companies, things like Dynamis would surely be welcomed.