You're not the first one to report lagging especially in that fight while they have no troubles usually. I wonder if the fight uses some slightly sloppily coded graphical effects that tax the computer/ps especially lot. Maybe try sometime with reduced graphical goodness just to test.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rydia_Feymarchian
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02-08-2016, 06:26 PMSida
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02-09-2016, 02:28 PMSentaryuu
Okay. Well I just probably had the most horrible run of the Vault. I haven't ran this as healer since first cleared it as SCH. I was AST and 2 BLM as DPS.
First a tank bailed right at start before I even loaded in. Shortly after a tank replaced them, a PLD, but gosh I wish I just left right there. >.>
Before every pull, they would be in Shield Oath, but the shortly, they'd be in Sword Oath, but this only made my job a whole lot harder.
I had to spam Benefic II on every pull, draining my MP and felt like if I tried doing anything else, they would die. We wiped once on the first boss. Zero on 2nd. Having to use Essential Dignity many times during the run. Never thought to use Synastry, because I never used it before. But this tank was getting on my nerves. After the bosses, they would "lol", thinking something was funny, but honestly nothing wasn't.
Come the last boss, I knew it was going to go horrible. We buff up and start. After only the first attack, they took so much damage, which honestly shouldn't happen. The tank dies, I rez. A BLM dies, they return. I end up just standing there so I could die and leave that terrible run. I wish I left a lot earlier. All this run did, was make me mad.
The tank must've looked at my search info, because they said something about "PS3 limitations" (yes I am playing on PS3, which has NOTHING to do with it). I think the tank thought it was my fault that we were dying or them losing so much health (mainly tank), which honestly was not. I do just fine healing on the PS3 when there is no lag and there was none.
After I mentioned to them that I'm having a hard time healing them in Sword Oath (during the last boss), they said a choice word that I just left. It made me say a choice word IRL that I usually don't say. That's probably the worst tank I had to heal in probably around 1000 runs I've done. >.> They are the worst kind of PLD to heal imo. Thank goodness they aren't on my server!!
I can probably guess what they said after I left, but I don't care. I'm glad to be out of that run. I probably should've tried kicking them, but I didn't think about it.
Wow, really? I'm sorry if my post came off that way. I never had the intention of it; because truthfully, I don't know how to tell if someone is being a troll or not myself. This was an legitimate experience I had in the Vault (my 2nd time healing it and first on AST) and if you don't believe me, that's fine, but making a false accusation like that is just wrong. People are just so quick to accuse someone of being a troll... And I personally healed it just fine as SCH when I first cleared it months ago.Quote:
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02-09-2016, 07:30 PMBalacenia
First time posting!
So I don't know if this guy was new or just an alt trolling, but I was just running Sastasha normal. So there was me (as SCH), a rogue, archer, and a gladiator. So I say hello at the start of the dungeon, get a reply from the rogue and the archer, gladiator says nothing. Protect goes up courtesy of one of the other players (I have cleric stance cross classed for low level stuff). Dungeon starts.
I can already tell it's going to be bad. Tank face pulls, attacks only one mob, uses no combos or anything. But I go that's fine, maybe they are just new. So we get to the open area with the clams, and it's at this point I notice the tank has less hp than me. (Hp order I believe was Rogue, me, tank, archer)
So I look at his gear. Level appropriate sword, that's good. Level 5 eyepatch, think maybe they just haven't upgraded that. And here's where it get's ugly. He's wearing the cash shop Thancred set. It's at this point I tell the rogue to tank and we end up finishing the dungeon in 34 minutes with the tank just kind of doing his thing the entire time.
The tank also passed on gear that dropped that they could have used.
To note, the tank did not have the green leaf. So, new but didn't play for a bit, alt troll, or just an incredibly sucker player? -
02-10-2016, 03:22 AMtechnole
None of that is surprising nowadays where the tank in a low-level instance will be the last person to actually perform that job.
As a tank you would think it would be common sense to not queue up something being under-geared, you have to take the brute of the enemy force, but apparently they are okay dressing up as a paper bag. Then, you get people like me where I craft my own HQ gear for DPS leveling in dungeons so as soon as we get a tank considerably under-geared, I know I'll be the one tanking. Eos usually keeps me alive. -
02-10-2016, 03:43 AMSagittarian0_0Quote:
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02-10-2016, 10:52 AMRhyku
Healing in Arbor with a DK who refused to use Grit and or any defensive skills, telling me Grit is for tanks who don't know how to play a DK and defensive CDs are only for boss use. WUT?
This probably *might* be ok if she didn't try to mob 2-3 groups at a time, which resulted in many messy deaths.
TLDR: tank tries to vote dismiss me for failing to keep her alive, blaming me for forcing her to use her GCDs. Another WUT moment.
Tables reversed on her, we got another (thankfully sensible) tank and we cleared Drex with no problems.
Seriously, how do people who play tanks ever get away with stupid excuses like that? Makes me want to slam my face into a spiked wall every single time I run into these "I don't need xxyyzzz skills cos I'm so uber / have a healer, and don't tell me how to play my class".
Another annoying incident, but was a while ago.
I decided to level my WHM to 60 after leaving her at 59 for a while. This was probably my fault since I was a bit rusty after having not touched the WHM for a while, so I kept hitting keys meant for my AST. We rolled into Gubal and right off the bat, I see the tank take horrendous damage from the first group of mobs, even though she popped GCDs. So I checked her gear and she was still wearing mostly level 50 gears (we're talking iL90s, not even 120 or 130) with a smattering of 51 & 54 here and there. And while I was checking her gears while we were running to next lot, she charges without waiting for my SS. We somehow manage until the part with golems and a bazillion chompy books. Cue messy death as she loses aggro to blm. Res, we continue until 1st boss. Here, it was a mess of healing and esuna-ing the debuffs everyone seems to be getting into. Tank dies, I die ressing tank, dps follow. Wipe. Res. Tank tells party, let's vote dismiss the healer.
Now, at some parts, I admit I fudged due to my rustiness, but I was a bit pissed the tank was going to dismiss me even though I said at the beginning I was a bit unused to WHM again after a while. Told the tank to upgrade her gears and stop being a burden to the healer before I was unceremoniously kicked. Now, I don't like being an ass mostly, but when you're this snarky and thinking you're some elite undergeared tank...... I didn't snark on her for being undergeared, but I did feel she judged me too harshly even with a warning up front.
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02-10-2016, 10:10 PMrandysquirrelI remember when troll posts used to be creative and well disguisedQuote:
Originally Posted by Sentaryuu
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02-10-2016, 11:09 PMOdd
The Vault as AST. I'll be the first to admit AST has a harder time than WHM or SCH in the last boss fight. But this one wasn't on me. They actually failed the dps check, something no group I've ever been with was able to do. This was with me in CS for the entire check phase.
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02-11-2016, 04:36 AMMusicGamer
Sohm Al for the first time in a premade as a SCH. We get to the last boss, with everything else going more or less fine. Last boss happens, we get past the wings, but I notice that everything hits like a bus and I can't keep up my heals for some reason.
So I take a look at the status effects list on the party and see what's going on.
Turns out that Protect had worn off before the fight had started and I hadn't noticed.
I am not able to rectify this before we wipe.
Lesson learned? Healing Tioman is a pain and I need to keep a better eye on the party's buffs. :'D
Oh, and here's another one, on the same Sohm Al run. My FC mates and I happened to be levelling various classes, among them Dragoon and Dark Knight. We get to the boss, but for some reason that we still haven't figured out our DRK can't keep aggro for longer than a second before Dragoon pulls it away.
Unfortunately, Tioman turned around right as it was using that breath attack cleave thing. And I happened to be standing in its path.
Cue several minutes of panic as I try to rectify the situation with the DRG laughing and the DRK and myself being mad at him. -
02-12-2016, 01:47 AMtechnoleI honestly think it's not a good idea for a PLD to stay in Sword Oath for the entire Vault boss fight, I never did, except for the add phase and maybe a push when a DPS was dead (Plus I was wearing full STR right sides at i140ish, that was pretty fair). See the PLD shield is almost worthless for most of that fight because we can't block magic damage (and overall this is why in Alex raiding they are the least desired main tank).Quote:
Originally Posted by Sentaryuu
So basically they are taking all the sickness AoEs straight up, and if they are not in the ~i140 range of that dungeon, it's going to hurt really bad. If they don't avoid the chess, use cooldowns, and avoid the junk on the ground it's just annoying.
I've leveled DPS jobs since and every time I see a tank get stingy with a DPS stance in that fight and many other bosses in HW, they end up dying. I get they are sometimes trying to see what they get can away with, and maybe seeing if the healer can compensate. But the reality is they have no one to blame but themselves if they die in DPS stance without a cooldown to compensate for the lack of HP/mitigation. That is how you play the stance dancing game at 60+, you make up for the drop in tankiness with cooldowns.
Ideally, Synastry should be used whenever possible for something heavy. Plus you'll save some MP and GCDs in the long run.