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08-28-2019, 03:43 AM
Thaeros

Thanks guys :)

And what discord? Id love to read up on the data ^.^
08-28-2019, 03:46 AM
StouterTaru

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thaeros

the shear craziness of new mats you need is just plain dumb.

As someone who built 4 of everything as they introduced them, the modified recipes feel pretty tame to me.
08-28-2019, 03:54 AM
Niwashi

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkCometII

mC mU mU Sy/mSy

Does anyone else think that notation looks cumbersome? Maybe something like C+U+U+Sy / C+U+U+Sy+ would be a viable way to indicate the upgraded parts, with the + after each one with the extra modified stats. (e.g original Syldra would be Sy and modified Syldra would be Sy+)
08-28-2019, 04:03 AM
Norri_Matora

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niwashi

Does anyone else think that notation looks cumbersome? Maybe something like C+U+U+Sy / C+U+U+Sy+ would be a viable way to indicate the upgraded parts, with the + after each one with the extra modified stats. (e.g original Syldra would be Sy and modified Syldra would be Sy+)

This is actually the exact thing we were debating and considering in said Submersible Discord. I think the consensus is to use the + annotation to confer when a part is modified. A fully modified CUUSy would be C+U+U+Y+.

Also yes, we're still debating between Sy and Y. I'll probably end up converting to Y as well.
08-28-2019, 04:59 AM
DarkCometII

In the context of the given content(in ENG at least) I'd say its clear, obvious and as simple as possible whilst still conveying the relevant information.
Nothing wrong with chatting in code in discord, if that floats your boat, but given that the number of people using said discord represent a tiny fraction of the playerbase, and probably an even smaller fraction of the views on this thread I think I'm on pretty solid ground as far as accessbility goes.
08-28-2019, 05:21 AM
alimdia

https://i.imgur.com/gpJc4sM.png

A fix, north isle of zozonan unlocks sea of ash 1 and 2, not southern charnel trench (which is covered in the next one)
08-28-2019, 05:32 AM
StouterTaru

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niwashi

Does anyone else think that notation looks cumbersome? Maybe something like C+U+U+Sy / C+U+U+Sy+ would be a viable way to indicate the upgraded parts, with the + after each one with the extra modified stats. (e.g original Syldra would be Sy and modified Syldra would be Sy+)

My vote is for ascii 253

C²U²Sy²C²
08-28-2019, 06:09 AM
Norri_Matora

Quote:

Originally Posted by StouterTaru

My vote is for ascii 253

C²U²Sy²C²

I was championing bolded text that'll screw up spreadsheets.
CUSyC
08-28-2019, 08:20 AM
StouterTaru

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norri_Matora

I was championing bolded text that'll screw up spreadsheets.
CUSyC

Yeah, Excel isn't big on multiple text formats in the same cell. Math would suggest prime as a better option:
C'U'Sy'C'
08-28-2019, 08:55 AM
Niwashi

Quote:

Originally Posted by StouterTaru

My vote is for ascii 253
C²U²Sy²C²

Clear enough to read, but harder to type (especially on a phone)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norri_Matora

I was championing bolded text that'll screw up spreadsheets.
CUSyC

Besides the spreadsheet issue (which is already enough of a problem), it can also be a bit harder to see the difference.

Quote:

Originally Posted by StouterTaru

Math would suggest prime as a better option:
C'U'Sy'C'

Succinct, clear, and easy to type. I like that one.
08-28-2019, 09:34 AM
AuricSeagard

Sub builders Discord: https://discord.gg/epUTdEJ

In addition to info we also have channels for trading/buying/selling sub mats.
08-28-2019, 11:17 PM
DarkCometII

Oh FFS

Ive been stocking mats for 16 parts based on Garlond Tools, just realised it lists +36 dhalmel saliva on all the modified unkiu parts but no wing glue - can someone with the prototype confirm spit/glue requirements for modified coel hull & modified unkiu stern & bow?
08-28-2019, 11:34 PM
StouterTaru

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkCometII

Ive been stocking mats for 16 parts based on Garlond Tools, just realised it lists +36 dhalmel saliva on all the modified unkiu parts but no wing glue - can someone with the prototype confirm spit/glue requirements for modified coel hull & modified unkiu stern & bow?

The saliva is an ingredient for hardsilver ink. Go up to settings on garlandtools and change craft depth to 1, it'll show you what you're actually turning in.
08-29-2019, 12:59 AM
DarkCometII

Quote:

Originally Posted by StouterTaru

The saliva is an ingredient for hardsilver ink. Go up to settings on garlandtools and change craft depth to 1, it'll show you what you're actually turning in.

Cheers, looks like GT was missing ink on the unk stern when it was put up(and I ss'd it for the fc discord) but its been corrected already. Too eager to put my minions to work I guess XD
08-29-2019, 09:25 AM
StouterTaru

For those looking at upgrades, the bonus from each modified piece over its base:

Code:

Set Piece Surv Retr Spd Rng Fav Sh' Hull +5 +10 +5 +5 +15 U' Hull +5 +5 +5 +5 +10 W' Hull +5 - +5 +5 +10 C' Hull - +5 +5 - +5 Sy' Hull - +5 - - +5 Sh' Stern +5 +5 +10 +5 +10 U' Stern +5 +5 +5 +5 +10 W' Stern +5 - +5 +5 +5 C' Stern - - +5 +5 +5 Sy' Stern - - - +5 +5 Sh' Bow +5 +10 +5 +5 +10 U' Bow +5 +5 +5 +5 +10 W' Bow - +5 +5 +5 +10 C' Bow +5 +5 - - +5 Sy' Bow - - +5 - - Sh' Bridge +5 +5 +10 +5 +15 U' Bridge +5 +5 +5 +5 +10 W' Bridge - +5 +5 +5 +5 C' Bridge +5 - - +5 +5 Sy' Bridge +5 - - - -
08-29-2019, 08:34 PM
StouterTaru

Time to change the spreadsheets, patch 5.08 notes

Quote:

Submersibles can no longer be deployed on exploratory missions when submersible speed is zero.

Was this a horrible exploit that people were using, sending their subs out on 3 month excursions? It was nice and easy for finding distance between zones, but I guess 5 speed will work just as well.
08-30-2019, 01:56 AM
Norri_Matora

Quote:

Originally Posted by StouterTaru

Was this a horrible exploit that people were using, sending their subs out on 3 month excursions? It was nice and easy for finding distance between zones, but I guess 5 speed will work just as well.

One of the devs probably caught wind of this particular reddit thread. It's more funny than a glitch since we knew that negative speed was possible. I'm just surprised someone was nuts enough to try it!
09-05-2019, 05:10 PM
Uldugar

i have a question, how can i upgrad the old submarine parts to the new one?
i found the merchant but can't find how to build them, do i need the builing plan 6?
09-05-2019, 08:32 PM
StouterTaru

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uldugar

i have a question, how can i upgrad the old submarine parts to the new one?
i found the merchant but can't find how to build them, do i need the builing plan 6?

Submersible Prototype VI unlocks all the new sub parts for your workshop.
09-08-2019, 11:06 PM
atek63

Has anyone discovered anything beyond sector J? ...or is it the last sector for this patch?
09-09-2019, 12:19 AM
SolidsnakeMgs5

two questions:

-Three of my subs are CSSS, the fourth is CUSC, the main difference is (looking side by side) 100 retrieval vs 40, speed difference is slight which i dont care about, and slight favor. Is it worth it up upgrade the last one into full CSSS?
-With the CSSS, is it worth doing the upgraded parts into the modified form? I dont remember the names but im sure you know what im talking about, the stat differences are barely negligible. They came out last patch, the housing item guy trades them or whatever in addition to the FC workshop thingy.
09-09-2019, 03:55 PM
PepperPandemic

Is your S supposed to be Shark or Syldra.

Most people are using the abbreviations Sh for shark, and Y for Syldra.
09-10-2019, 05:06 AM
SolidsnakeMgs5

all syldra
09-10-2019, 02:59 PM
PepperPandemic

Okay, then to answer your questions,

1. No
2. Not really. Syldra parts take a LOT of materials for barely any bonus stats.

Most people are only upgrading Unkiu, and Colecanth parts. I know of one build that is using a Shark bow as well.

So you will either want to re-think your builds entirely if you want to farm the new zones for rares, or use them to farm the new materials or old zones while you wait until they add lv. 60 parts to the game. We have no idea when they will add lv. 60 parts but since they increased the level cap they will probably add them at some point during the expansion.
09-12-2019, 02:42 AM
atek63

These messages in the log are a jokes. "Disappearing low yield due to minimal efficiency." The submersible's efficiency is 155! Y, C+,U+,Y+ It was just a test lol
09-13-2019, 12:37 PM
Quadol

1551155151
09-13-2019, 05:32 PM
Mitsubashi

I have a sub at lvl 60 another at lvl 52 I've been doing constant deployments and I still haven't discovered anywhere past The Upwell (AA). I'm using CUCC giving me 180 Surv and 105 Favor.

Am I missing something basic, do I need to change my build or am I just being unlucky ?
09-13-2019, 09:54 PM
PepperPandemic

You are either visiting the wrong zones or have very bad RNG. As long as you keep hitting the upwell you will eventually get the next zones.
09-14-2019, 12:58 AM
SolidsnakeMgs5

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitsubashi

I have a sub at lvl 60 another at lvl 52 I've been doing constant deployments and I still haven't discovered anywhere past The Upwell (AA). I'm using CUCC giving me 180 Surv and 105 Favor.

Am I missing something basic, do I need to change my build or am I just being unlucky ?

One FC took about 3 weeks to unlock, other took a couple times, REALLY bad vs good RNG. When the new sections came out, the same thing happened, they kept popping up with one, the other took about two weeks to unlock one sector, ridiculous.
09-14-2019, 01:08 AM
Darte

Has anyone gotten cocobolo lumber? I've been sending 4 ships at the new sectors non stop and haven't seen a single one despite sending them to sectors where most folks say they come from.
09-14-2019, 04:33 AM
DrWho2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darte

Has anyone gotten cocobolo lumber? I've been sending 4 ships at the new sectors non stop and haven't seen a single one despite sending them to sectors where most folks say they come from.

what are your sub builds? are you sending them to the right sectors (I'm assuming you are). If you're not getting Cocobolo lumber then you have bad rng or your surveillance rating is not high enough to grab it. i upgraded three subs to CUYC and even then it took almost a month before i was able to get 18 lumber to unlock the last set of blueprints.
09-14-2019, 06:44 AM
Jojoya

I suspect the drop rate on the lumber is intentionally low. Some FCs are going to have good RNG in getting it and others bad. We're at 6 of 18 so far and for the last month I've been sending our 3 subs only to the sectors that drop it.

Another thing to be considered is whether very high surveillance is working against us in this case. If other items on the loot table for a sector have a higher surveillance requirement, we have a smaller chance of getting the lumber back when we use subs with the higher surveillance. Did anyone pinpoint what minimum surveillance is needed for cocobolo lumber?
09-14-2019, 12:25 PM
Norri_Matora

Cocobolo Lumber drops from Clear and Calm weather patterns which requires decent Surveillance. The minimum required is ~~145~~ 160.
09-15-2019, 07:58 AM
Darte

Hmm I've only got 2 subs that meet the 145 surveillance threshold, still kinda odd to never have seen even one bring back any yet. Might have to reconfigure the other two or make some more of the older parts to raise surveillance.
09-19-2019, 07:39 AM
Jeykama

Cocobolo lumber is pretty rare, but keep in mind it isn't even that important.
All the schematics unlocked use tons of Pure Titanium Ore and Cryptomeria Logs, which drop in the same sectors and need just as high surveillance. You should instead be targeting these, as you will get plenty of Cocobolo on the way to getting enough for even one set of new submarine parts.
09-24-2019, 01:03 AM
Ronivan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nekane

https://i.imgur.com/pczfq7W.png

Rimilala Shelf - Kamacite Ore

I did over 8 runs in that place and haven't found any. Could you please post your Submersible parameters?
09-24-2019, 10:25 AM
SolidsnakeMgs5

Even with CSSS build sometimes it brings back junk, you can have really bad RNG, it took a month to unlock one sector before, the last 10 days, all of my subs pretty much brought back nothing worth of value, before that it was tons of loot.
10-05-2019, 06:17 AM
Belgarion

wich sectors have the best drop rate on the lumbers
10-06-2019, 05:37 AM
Shadygrove

Quote:

Originally Posted by Belgarion

wich sectors have the best drop rate on the lumbers

None. Lumber drop rate sucks on all sectors that can drop it.
10-18-2019, 11:34 AM
chiya

What kind of stats do I need for the Ruby Boule and Antique Vessels?

Been sending subs for trips that include Catacombs of Father nonstop and got nada.

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