SE: Can we get back skip cutscene in Main Scenarios?

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Originally Posted by CazzT

Hardly an exaggeration. I can easily run five roulettes, even relying on pug rng, in the time it will take for your queue to pop and then complete MSQ roulette. Mathematically, MSQ roulette is just not worth it. Not to mention the fact that you spend the majority of the run doing literally nothing.

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I run it when I level a character. It's well worth the time and experience gained. The duty is fairly well populated with queue times petty short even for dps. I sincerely doubt SE is going to change it's mind after making the scenes un-skipable.

I won't personally run it for mog tomes given I think Syrus Tower is the best duty for the time invested. I try and get 5 of those runs in a day.

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Originally Posted by CazzT

Hardly an exaggeration. I can easily run five roulettes, even relying on pug rng, in the time it will take for your queue to pop and then complete MSQ roulette. Mathematically, MSQ roulette is just not worth it. Not to mention the fact that you spend the majority of the run doing literally nothing.

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I don't know where people are getting their times from for MSQ, but been farming it a lot for mog tomestone event and on average I'm seeing 25 min for CM runs, and 40 min for Praetorium. I'm not even sure how you could do these two dungeons and spend over an hour inside, maybe if you spent half an hour complaining instead of doing the run?

As for queue times, even on dps i wait 20 min max during regular playtime hours, on healer and tank it's an almost instant queue most days even before the event started.

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Originally Posted by ForteNightshade

If you have a new person, it will be fairly obvious who elected not to skip the cut scenes. This leaves them open to ridicule for "making this take forever!!"

What they should do is allow you to skip the cut scenes if you unsync it.

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They're already being ridiculed for it. Even though they don't have any control now.

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Originally Posted by CazzT

I already don't do it. And I've said as much before. But the reasons I've given are why more and more people aren't doing it, too. And that's where the problem lies. Saying "don't like it don't do it" is both a cop out and not a solution to the problem.

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Its not a cop out, i listed many valid reasons why its still worth doing.

I feel like you just looked at the first part of my post and only talked about that.

Many people do MSQ roulette, i can queue up as a dps and get in, in about 20 mins or so.

Its not that bad of a queue time. But i play everything so i can just queue as a tank or healer for instant if i want.

Like i said the exp doesn't matter when you have everything maxed, but the tomes are still worthwhile.

400 for no effort/afking.

Also i feel like people just sit on their hands or something while they wait for queues.

I craft or gather while i wait, so the queue times don't feel long at all.

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Originally Posted by Gralna

I don't know where people are getting their times from for MSQ, but been farming it a lot for mog tomestone event and on average I'm seeing 25 min for CM runs, and 40 min for Praetorium. I'm not even sure how you could do these two dungeons and spend over an hour inside, maybe if you spent half an hour complaining instead of doing the run?

As for queue times, even on dps i wait 20 min max during regular playtime hours, on healer and tank it's an almost instant queue most days even before the event started.

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Since the cutscene change, I've done MSQ roulette about five times spread out over several months. None of them have ever been under 55 minutes. And it's not like there's a lack of opportunity to complain about having to sit through the unskippable cutscenes considering how much time is wasted being forced to sit through them.

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Originally Posted by CazzT

Since the cutscene change, I've done MSQ roulette about five times spread out over several months. None of them have ever been under 55 minutes. And it's not like there's a lack of opportunity to complain about having to sit through the unskippable cutscenes considering how much time is wasted being forced to sit through them.

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As I replied above, even with cutscenes I don't know how you could spend an hour or more in those two dungeons. CM averages about 25 min and Praetorium is about 40, these are without any wipes which you pretty have to try to wipe with how easy they are.

Either we're not getting the whole story of how they took you 55+ min, or you're exaggerating.

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Originally Posted by Gralna

As I replied above, even with cutscenes I don't know how you could spend an hour or more in those two dungeons. CM averages about 25 min and Praetorium is about 40, these are without any wipes which you pretty have to try to wipe with how easy they are.

Either we're not getting the whole story of how they took you 55+ min, or you're exaggerating.

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You're free to think it isn't the whole story. Prae took over 55 minutes. Castra goes by relatively fast, but I never got it after the cutscene change. There were no wipes, DPS burned down the trash and bosses like champs, there were no setbacks or detours or anyone holding anything up. But if you want to call me a liar, I can only say that you're throwing false accusations. Last time I even queued for that roulette was about five months ago.

Point that I'm making is: with the current rewards, it's not worth it. You can earn more doing other things, AND you actually get to play the game while doing it instead of watching unskippable cutscenes. The change is a bad one. Full stop. I've had this argument before and objective reality is that it's a bad change. I can't convince people who want to bring emotions into the argument.

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Originally Posted by CazzT

Point that I'm making is: with the current rewards, it's not worth it. You can earn more doing other things, AND you actually get to play the game while doing it instead of watching unskippable cutscenes. The change is a bad one. Full stop. I've had this argument before and objective reality is that it's a bad change. I can't convince people who want to bring emotions into the argument.

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Square Enix didn't like that people were either made to watch the cutscenes or partake in the battles. So they changed it. They may make it a single player duty (possibly building off the trust system?) but they will NOT revert it back to how it was before. No matter how much we complain, even if we got a petition with 6 billion signatures.

If the participation drops off enough they'll just put a bigger carrot on it most likely. They already did that once since the change (originally it was 30 of the weekly capped tomestone post cutscene change, increased to 50)

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Originally Posted by CazzT

The change is a bad one. Full stop. I've had this argument before and objective reality is that it's a bad change. I can't convince people who want to bring emotions into the argument.

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It is bad for those that want to get it over and done with and care not for another's enjoyment that may be experiencing it for the first time. For those that are experiencing it for the first time and whole-heartedly want to watch everything as it unfurls with their character and within the context you get it, it's one of the best changes to happen to it.

It's a matter of perspective.

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Originally Posted by Gralna

I don't know where people are getting their times from for MSQ, but been farming it a lot for mog tomestone event and on average I'm seeing 25 min for CM runs, and 40 min for Praetorium. I'm not even sure how you could do these two dungeons and spend over an hour inside, maybe if you spent half an hour complaining instead of doing the run?

As for queue times, even on dps i wait 20 min max during regular playtime hours, on healer and tank it's an almost instant queue most days even before the event started.

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Every Castrum I’ve gotten is roughly 35~40 minutes, and Praetorium has always taken 50~60 minutes. I get them a bit in Mentor Roulette, and I’ve never seen Prae take less than 50 minutes.