The Fields of Glory (Shatter)

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Originally Posted by Synestra

is it me or does SE's PvP updateds remind anyone else about windows? every other mode is crap, secure was awesome slaughter was crap, seize was awesome shatter is again crap so nextone should be awesome again(CTF pls).

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That seems to be the trend. Personally, I'm still waiting for that castle defense mode that they originally promised waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back when the first announced FL. I seem to recall a lovely concept art picture of a castle of some kind defending against a mobilized army outside the gates. Not sure what happened to that mode, but it's sure been a long time coming.

In any case, it would be nice if they could re-spec the PvP achievements, sync all of the FL content at 60, Get rid of the damn GC garbage, and create a proper matchmaking which allows for all of the game modes. We have 4 different options now, so making them all viable would be nice for the sake of variety. Though, I'd probably cringe at each Shatter match, unless they do something to actually encourage some real PvP.

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Originally Posted by Morningstar1337

That reminds me, ha anyone confirmed wins on 2 or more GCs counting towards that mount?

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It counts. I begrudgingly switched recently at around 35/100 wins. Haven't had much success since, but my progress is now 41/100.

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Originally Posted by Synestra

And its also main reason that killed Seize. It baffles me why didnt they simply add new "Behind Enemy Lines" achivment instead, it would have kept all modes alive. I will personally boycott that mount by never using it as it will always remind me that it killed my favorite map. Tbh is it me or does SE's PvP updateds remind anyone else about windows? every other mode is crap, secure was awesome slaughter was crap, seize was awesome shatter is again crap so nextone should be awesome again(CTF pls).

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CTF with 3 teams and so many players? No Thank you. They should just remove GC restriction and 72 modes 8vs8 only then stuff like CTF, King of the Hill etc. also they should put all modes in 1 df and then ppl can vote for one.

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Originally Posted by TiaHariberux3

CTF with 3 teams and so many players? No Thank you. They should just remove GC restriction and 72 modes 8vs8 only then stuff like CTF, King of the Hill etc. also they should put all modes in 1 df and then ppl can vote for one.

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Yeah it would not work in 72 at all but could be fun in 24man, and yeah 72 should get removed and maybe add 48man back instead. Or add CTF to Feast and make new mode for 8v8 or 4v4 as Feast only have 2 teams so it would popably fit better there than FL.

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Originally Posted by Synestra

Yeah it would not work in 72 at all but could be fun in 24man, and yeah 72 should get removed and maybe add 48man back instead. Or add CTF to Feast and make new mode for 8v8 or 4v4 as Feast only have 2 teams so it would popably fit better there than FL.

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The only problem I have with CTF game mode concepts in a game like this, is that I have trouble understanding how it would actually work ...

Traditional CTF game modes require killing the flag bearer to get them to drop it / reset the flag, but I don't see that happening very smoothly in a game where one healer could potentially make the flag bearer immortal for the entire time it takes them to cross the arena. I can see how some teams would work around this, of course. Pld healer lock downs would go a long way, but then we'd be faced with the problem of having every match play out the exact same way with near identical party compositions. Tactics would pretty much go out the window, and it would fall to who has the best Dps. Rinse and repeat a few times, and I don't think anyone would be having much fun with this game mode for very long.

Don't get me wrong, I would really like to see a CTF game mode. I'm just not sure how it would actually work without being overly boring or broken.

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Originally Posted by Februs

Don't get me wrong, I would really like to see a CTF game mode. I'm just not sure how it would actually work without being overly boring or broken.

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In WoW, which also had healers in their PvP, the flag carrier was disallowed from certain actions, such as becoming invisible, mounting etc. After a while, they would also get a debuff that made them take more damage.
So the gameplay typically looked like this:
1) Healer supported flag carrier on both teams bring the flag to the opposite side.
2) Half the team protects the flag carrier while the other attempts to get the flag back
3) Zerg until either carrier dies.

Honestly, it's not too different from the feast, or any kill based mode with healers for that matter. You try to burst someone against the heals and if that fails, wage a war of attrition against the healer's mana bar. At the very least our healers tend to not be very mobile while healing, so chasing druids around pillars for 45 minutes until timeout is avoided.

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Originally Posted by Zojha

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I can kind of see how that would work, so long as SE balanced the heavy medal stack well enough for it to actually work. There would still be a few pitfalls. Tanks would essentially become bag mules, for example, and Pld's would be a must-have for ideal party compositions due to their healer suppression potential, but at least it would be playable. How would flags be picked up or dropped, though? I'm assuming an interaction bar of some kind? Proximity pick ups/drops seem WAY too easy, because a player could basically sprint the whole way with a shield and be done in no time.

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Originally Posted by Februs

How would flags be picked up or dropped, though? I'm assuming an interaction bar of some kind? Proximity pick ups/drops seem WAY too easy, because a player could basically sprint the whole way with a shield and be done in no time.

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In WoW, it was pretty much you right click and you instantly carried the flag/returned the flag and it was a frantic clickfest from everyone involved whenever somebody with a flag got low.

I suppose it could be done with an interruptable bar as well. But I'm just stating how it worked in a similar game :3

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Originally Posted by Zojha

In WoW, which also had healers in their PvP, the flag carrier was disallowed from certain actions, such as becoming invisible, mounting etc.

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Yeah i was thinking something like good ol WSG and thats why i suggested it to be FL instead Feast map at first, current 8v8 feast map is way too small for CTF. If im totally honest i would jizz in my pants if SE copied WSG map layout in here and same goes for AB as those two were my favorites for over 4 years.

I was shocked when they announced the new PVP mode. I was like "why?"