Seriously give the game time?

Why are you guys replying to this? The OP has 4 posts total... it's obvious this is just a troll thread. just let this one die.

It is a free country, you can leave any time you like.

Nobody is stopping you.

What i love about this is why even post this? like really don't like it just leave no one really care what you think about FFXIV all of us pretty much understand what wrong with FFXIV. So there the door goodbye don't let it hit you on the way out. Not being rude but no one really cares about what you think SE know what wrong and getting feedback. SE pretty much of a timeline of September to get this game to be 100% good to go on the ps3. They said september is the month they want this game to be 100% done with fix and so on and maybe we get PS3 release on Q1 of 2012.

So sadly why are you even posting,

let's leave it at that don't feed the troll :)

You do know there is an ffxiv configure in the SE game file and can lower the graphics. It looks pixilated, but it runs better. I turned most my stuff down, background looks pixilated but game runs pretty well. And I'm playing on a non gaming laptop. If you ever played tomb raider 2 on the ps2, it looks like that with all the settings down. If you don't mind that, game runs great. Plus you also have the in game settings. I got my background on rge lowest, and my foreground on a middle setting and looks great. And runs well, might down my foreground a bit to run it better but really no complaints here.

Other then that, from my 6 hours in game I love it. I like the Story in LL, I love the cs animations .My fav character is the Marauder Elizen(sp) leader... (eye candy ftw) I love playing marauder, and I love using cross class abilities. I use Fire spell on my Marauder.

Games who launch with endgame really do not do well in the long run. Players rush through and beat it, get bored and quit between update

I'm looking forward to the changes that are coming down the pipe line. The OP makes some good points. Things like a delivery system should have been there from day 1. I'm patient though. If all sides work together we can make XIV great.

All of you miss my point :x its inevitable though. You guys are blind to the reality of things :X. Yoshi p taking a whole month to add something as simple as UI changes and you think the game can be fixed at this rate? :P well then good luck ^^.

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Originally Posted by Greencactaur

All of you miss my point :x its inevitable though. You guys are blind to the reality of things :X. Yoshi p taking a whole month to add something as simple as UI changes and you think the game can be fixed at this rate? :P well then good luck ^^.

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no we got the point. We also know their working conditions suck atm. Just to let us play. No one here is really blind. But they are working on they game. It does take time to build and recode changes. Though the has been out since september, the new dev team haven't ben working on it long.

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Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus

no we got the point. We also know their working conditions suck atm. Just to let us play. No one here is really blind. But they are working on they game. It does take time to build and recode changes. Though the has been out since september, the new dev team haven't ben working on it long.

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5 months is not a short period of time in the MMO Industry...... Just look at WOW, released cata later than FFXIV, just released a content patch.

ff14 just switched developer teams and WOW is crap..... cough.

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Originally Posted by Hikozaemon

ff14 just switched developer teams and WOW is crap..... cough.

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yeah, its easier to push out stuff when your graphics requirements are in the toilet and everything is cookie cutter and you dont gotta do ANY extra stuff on the side
all the need to do is content, they have nothing else to work on

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Originally Posted by Ostia

5 months is not a short period of time in the MMO Industry...... Just look at WOW, released cata later than FFXIV, just released a content patch.

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WoW doesn't have to recreate a game from the ground up.
WoW didn't have to deal with an earthquake.
WoW's graphical detail isn't as complex or taxing as XIV's.
WoW is specifically for the PC while XIV has to keep the PS3 in mind.
WoW has had 5-6 months from cata release and where probably planning the content release for a long time, Yoshi has had 3-4 months to completley re-structure the game.
WoW has a lot more room for freedom of development due to it's high popularity.
WoW bleh blee bloo blah blah.

Things coming up in FFXIV in the next few updates

1) More Side Quest
2) More Guild Task
3) More Nms
4) Companys
5) Whole new battle system

That there looks like a content update me, so we are on month 4 now of FFXIV (people say it came out in sept all they want but it is a new team taking the game in a new direction). As other said Cata is in month 6, ffxiv under Yoshi-P is in month 4 and from the looks of the steam we are picking up on companys and the lore stuff they are adding the big updates should not be far off.

Thing they confirmed they are working on but have no time line yet:

1) New Zones
2) Instances
3) Dungeons
4) Quest
5) Armory System Changes
6) Class Changes

All in all if you cannot wait, then quit. Atm the last thing square needs to do is rush out garbage... enough mmos out there that do it already.

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Originally Posted by Gramul

WoW doesn't have to recreate a game from the ground up.
WoW didn't have to deal with an earthquake.
WoW's graphical detail isn't as complex or taxing as XIV's.
WoW is specifically for the PC while XIV has to keep the PS3 in mind.
WoW has had 5-6 months from cata release and where probably planning the content release for a long time, Yoshi has had 3-4 months to completley re-structure the game.
WoW has a lot more room for freedom of development due to it's high popularity.
WoW bleh blee bloo blah blah.

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Ostia is just trolling on every forum they post on, I mean not troll..since even trolls know the difference between a 2004 established MMORPG and a 2010 rushed MMO in the process of redesigning.

I want them to not rush the PS3 release. If they need a year or two to get things in order then by all means. I hope the higher ups learned from the rushed PC release and wait til it's ready.

In that case I'll just put him on the ignore list.

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Originally Posted by Greencactaur

All of you miss my point :x its inevitable though. You guys are blind to the reality of things :X. Yoshi p taking a whole month to add something as simple as UI changes and you think the game can be fixed at this rate? :P well then good luck ^^.

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Again, the problem with people like you is that you don't understand development. It takes time.. a lot of time. The way MMOs combat this is while they've launched a game their plans for development and implementing future content is being worked on. So, let's say a new MMO launches, and 5-6 months after that you get an instanced dungeon. That was already being worked on since the game went active.

FFXIV does not have this luxury. Instead of having content and systems being worked on since it's very pitiful launch, it started a lot later when the new team was put together, mostly.

If you understand even the basics of development you would actually be impressed at the rate they are going. Clearly, your extreme opinion is born out of ignorance, but that is fine. One less loud mouthed minority rage quitting who hasn't the slightest clue on how well they are doing under the circumstances.

Yeah I just can't understand how people don't see, them talking about adding companies and a new battle system in 1.18 and 1.19 is fast for a natural disaster which effected their area and gave them rolling black outs (self imposed but still this is real!), and even before that they dealt with a complete team overhaul where even if you weren't let go from the team you still were given a new job with a new task and you on top of that they had to sort out what the previous team was doing before they can even begin to change anything. If you can't see their speed in having to deal with this, you should see you can't compare this to an mmo that has a stable work environment with a stable team of developers.

not to mention summer in japan is nasty. so id expect small shut downs so the workers can have ac on ocassion. A news thing said japan should be back to normal by novembe or december. Least if stuff goes well. Oh and wow cata was announced basicaly welk wrath was 6 mths or something. so they was working on it for a while.

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Originally Posted by Arcell

Speak for yourself, I like the lore.

Content takes time to create, something you clearly know nothing about. If you don't like the game then go find a game you actually do like, that's honestly more constructive than your entire post.

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Worst advice you can give at the moment. A lot of players have already left; what makes you think you are being constructive at all? i am sure SE disagrees with you and they would want more players to play the game and not less. Typical fanboy reactions.

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Originally Posted by Nikki

Worst advice you can give at the moment. A lot of players have already left; what makes you think you are being constructive at all? i am sure SE disagrees with you and they would want more players to play the game and not less. Typical fanboy reactions.

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Then what do you expect the whiners to do? Stay here and keep flooding the forums with useless posts with stuff they have no knowledge and/or control over?

Fact is game is crap and is going to stay that way for ten more years at this rate.

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Originally Posted by Corrderio

Then what do you expect the whiners to do? Stay here and keep flooding the forums with useless posts with stuff they have no knowledge and/or control over?

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Is that for you to decide? who is in charge here to tell who should stay and who should leave? right now this game needs more players not less. Its SE's responsibility to make sure that unhappy players do not keep quitting. Thank GOD that smart individuals at SE made it free on monthly basis and that is the reason a lot of players are still hanging around. Otherwise this game would have sunk faster than Titanic.

It shocks me that even at this point people have same attitude and trying to chase unhappy players away as if game is doing so exceptionally good.

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Originally Posted by Nikki

It shocks me that even at this point people have same attitude and trying to chase unhappy players away as if game is doing so exceptionally good.

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It's not that people don't want to chase them out, it's just people are sick and tired of hearing something that boils down to "OMG THIS GAME IS THE SUXX0RZ!", we all know the game is in a bad state and Yoshida is pretty much building this game from the bottom up. So why complain about it? It's not going to help in any way.

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Originally Posted by Nikki

Is that for you to decide? who is in charge here to tell who should stay and who should leave? right now this game needs more players not less. Its SE's responsibility to make sure that unhappy players do not keep quitting. Thank GOD that smart individuals at SE made it free on monthly basis and that is the reason a lot of players are still hanging around. Otherwise this game would have sunk faster than Titanic.

It shocks me that even at this point people have same attitude and trying to chase unhappy players away as if game is doing so exceptionally good.

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The ppl who kept saying those stuff chase potential customer out too.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

Indeed it is square enix, which is why with the exception of FFXIII every game that was under their development studio branches released on time, and some even released months earlier because they finished it quickly.

Even then XIII was only delayed due to the PS2 > PS3 move and White Engine development.

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Think you missed the point there lol, on time or not, the release dates were way out of proportion to what you'd expect and what other studios were able to accomplish. FF12 was 5 years after 10, 4 years after 11, and was still a ps2 game. Even Wada knows their team is slow.

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Originally Posted by viion

Think you missed the point there lol

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Nope, when people say "SE is slow", yet they've kept just about every release date with the exception of FFXIII for obvious reasons, you can't really say they're a slow company, especially considering:

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FF12 was 5 years after 10, 4 years after 11

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FFX: May 2002
Unlimited Saga: December 2002
FFX2: March 2003
Front Mission 4: December 2003
FFX2ILM: Feb 2004

and so on. So I didn't miss the point, it's just people blow Square's "slowness" out of proportion because of their personal beliefs on how fast they should be pumping out updates in XI and XIV. Wada also believes the general public should be testers for any of their MMOs even past beta.

60% of the forumers here are over exaggerating xD

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Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus

You do know there is an ffxiv configure in the SE game file and can lower the graphics. It looks pixilated, but it runs better. I turned most my stuff down, background looks pixilated but game runs pretty well. And I'm playing on a non gaming laptop. If you ever played tomb raider 2 on the ps2, it looks like that with all the settings down. If you don't mind that, game runs great. Plus you also have the in game settings. I got my background on rge lowest, and my foreground on a middle setting and looks great. And runs well, might down my foreground a bit to run it better but really no complaints here.

Other then that, from my 6 hours in game I love it. I like the Story in LL, I love the cs animations .My fav character is the Marauder Elizen(sp) leader... (eye candy ftw) I love playing marauder, and I love using cross class abilities. I use Fire spell on my Marauder.

Games who launch with endgame really do not do well in the long run. Players rush through and beat it, get bored and quit between update

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Woot Kilta plays now!!! Finally we won't hear the 'Kilta's opinion doesn't matter, she/he's not playing the game' comments. Welcome onboard Kilta!

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Originally Posted by Elexia

Ostia is just trolling on every forum they post on, I mean not troll..since even trolls know the difference between a 2004 established MMORPG and a 2010 rushed MMO in the process of redesigning.

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I dont think you wanna compare a 2004 vanilla wow to a 2010+7-8 months FFXIV, the comparison is not even fair, vanilla wow had more content on its release day, than FFXIV will have probably by the 1 year mark of it's deathbed span.

As for the guy you quoted, most of your points with the exception of the earthquake are irrelevant, the battle system was clunky but it was not broken, it could have been tweked and improved, the graphics to me atleast are meh, i'm not a graphic whore so idgaf plus it instantly shrunk the games player base by a lot(Bad marketing decision) as for the 5-6 months and planning ahead, well this game had 5+ YEARS THATS YEARS!!! Even tanaka said they had a full one year of content already planned and worked for this game, so where is it ? i hope is not those 40 NM that are a joke.....

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Originally Posted by Ostia

Even tanaka said they had a full one year of content already planned and worked for this game, so where is it ?

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Ah yes, I do remember that.

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Originally Posted by Seirra_Lanzce

60% of the forumers here are over exaggerating xD

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I see what you did there....(Y)

Perhaps throwing out the word 'compromise' into this topic will get some kind of response....

To each their own I suppose

And the thing is its still the same with SE fanboys. They're so blind and can't face reality. They keep saying WoW is a bad game or they don't want this to be a wow clone. Look the thing is and i realize that you will deny it as it is your nature, WoW beats xiv in every possible way. Blizzard doesn't take a month to add a UI change. SE takes a month to add one small UI change like this for example, Mobs will now have red near there name which indicates aggro.

Look guys I want this game to succeed, but with a fanbase like the people in this thread xiv is doomed forever due to the stupidity :P of everyone who disagree's with me. Now I realize you may disagree with me, but once again your just all in denial :P don't worry though it happens to all of us. One day you'll realize that xiv for a 2011 mmo is absolutely dreadful. I mean Rift had a solid launch it started with end game and everything and its amazing. Yet XIV which has been out almost a year can't even release a mount system. If they have trouble releasing something as simple as mounts then wheres the promise they'll be able to actually add content fast enough when the actual end game comes out? Also this is why I think SE should just close xiv and start over. Make a game that looks like Aion and has beautiful terrain. Graphics don't make a game beautiful the terrain and the open world does. WoW looks 1000x better then xiv will anyday.

Anyways Like I was saying if its been 7months and the team still can't add something like mounts how do you expect them to release end game content fast enough for people to enjoy when everyone finishes it? Once again the main problem with the developers making this game was the graphics they had. They pushed it to the limit so now its hard to add new things. They got to scratch it entirely if they want any hope of reviving their name which actually died before 14, but we'll get into that matter another day.

I'm sure this isn't the first time you've been told this but if WoW is/looks 1000x better go play it. FFXIV has it's issues but I have surprisingly enjoyed myself while playing so far even thought I came in skeptical. So who are you to call anyone else stupid for playing the game.. I doubt people would notice if you just left forever.

You keep saying it takes them a month to add in 1 small UI change, let's take a look at what we've seen from April:

Roughly 2 dozen sidequests (many company-related).

Adjustments to guild marks rewards.

Party size reduction to 8.

Readjustment of enemy values in regards to this.

Addition of 20 NMs for mid-rank.

Unique items to go with all of them.

Enemy distribution changes.

Addition of aggro and rank icon toggle.

Addition of daily guild tasks.

Various other UI adjustments

Various bug fixes.


Yeah they sure did take months to add a single UI change.

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Originally Posted by Greencactaur

My best advice to give SE at this point of time would be to completely scratch the game though and have yoshi go play rift hit cap try endgame and do the same with aion and wow. Afterwards take the things from there and notice how 99% of gamers could give a damn about graphics. Make a game that looks like aion, but has a nice fluid combat system. Afterwards do all the things I said above.

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Your post was sort of "fine" (as in: HE MAD), till this point where I simply started laughing. Nice job

Strong SEDF up in this thread. I'd have to browse a radical christian forum to be able to find more crazy talk than I do here. Yes the game does need more time (a lot more time) to become playable, but that's not to say that it's okay for a company like SE to release it in the state that it was and continually show us that they don't really know what they're doing.

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Originally Posted by Arcell

Speak for yourself, I like the lore.

Content takes time to create, something you clearly know nothing about. If you don't like the game then go find a game you actually do like, that's honestly more constructive than your entire post.

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I'm all about the lore too, what's the point of any RPG online or offline if the story is crap? There isn't one, that's one of the major flaw of most MMOs is the lack of a coherent story. There's a story but it does not flow as it does in FF online for most of them.

I love how the new little sidequests actually tie in to the main storyline, like the Gridania lowbie quests where you help out getting ready for the elemental festival dance, and then you actually get to see it happen in the main story. Yay!

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Originally Posted by Mega

I predict this thread will have 35 replies from people who think they can program or think they know how programming works while disregarding this customer's dissatisfaction which trumps the behind the curtain bs. Everyone has their threshold to tolerate this poo poo game and Greencactuar has finally cracked. Understand that he isn't demanding the impossible but merely asking for a few standard features found in most mmos. Even XI had chocobos at NA launch, ya know?

We're not giving SE time. SE is taking their slow time. Business as usual for them.

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You do know FFXI was launched 18 months AFTER the japanese release dont you, I am seeing the FFXI had this at the NA release FFXI had that at NA release, but that was already an 18 month old game which people either forget or never knew.

If you want to compare FFXIV to FFXI it needs to be the Japanese release not the NA release.

I disagree with the OP in most of his rant, the game has made alot of progress in the time it has been out, but SE do need to work faster.

If anyone reads the letters from the producer what you will know is they are basicly rebuilding a game they already spent 5 years to make which takes time.

I do agree however that they could do with going a bit faster, or atleast post an update on where they are in the production of the large scale changes that has been announced in Yoshi-P's letters

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Originally Posted by Greencactaur

Look guys I want this game to succeed, but with a fanbase like the people in this thread xiv is doomed forever due to the stupidity :P

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No you don't want it to succeed you want it to copy and mold itself to something many of us don't want to play. You want Rift? Go play it, PLEASE. You are calling us stupid? For what? Supporting the game we love and actually making helpful suggestions to see the game grow become stable and bring in profit? Are you deluded enough to think your OP is actually of ANY help at all to this cause? Really?

Antagonize the community instead of building it up, go ahead and destroy what you say you care about, YES that will surely help the game!! Please.

You mention Aion. Were you there at launch? Did you see all the players mass leave the game when the servers were unstable as all crap? Were you? Because I was, the game was UNPLAYABLE for me and I quit then and never went back. You mention all these other games like they are models to be upheld, they have their own issues and it's not because some of them have a following of sheep that FFXIV should be the same lukewarm package.

You care about the game seek out existing threads and make actual constructive suggestion instead of this utter diatribe please that will help the game not this utter troll nonsense. It's also pissing me off your type inspires this type of posts from me.. ><

Good day!