BETA TEST ROADMAP IS UP!

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Originally Posted by Starlord

At first it's like:

The following players are eligible:

• Legacy Status Holders
• FFXIV Service Account Holders
• Applicants selected through the Beta
Tester Application Site

And then it was like:

- All Legacy status holders qualify as testers in phase 1. ( to me this reads Only Legacy players Qualify in phase 1, and maybe some other people after "All" Legacy members are in)

- All FFXIV service account holders qualify as testers in phase 3. ( To me this reads, All people with a FFXIV Account *Includes actives and inactives* will qualify as Beta Testers ( but not everyone will get in though but alot will)

And notice they put Legacy on top both times, To me It's a stronger indicator that we get Priority over Non-Legacy.

That's just me though :P.

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Please read everything. No matter what you status level is you must apply to be a tester. This begins in January. Only those who apply will be eligible for Phases 1-3. Only those who apply are prioritized for selection. They will start by selecting Legacy holders who apply. As Phases 1 and 2 are for JP servers only I suspect that there will be a hidden priority for JP players over other regions. Just because you fill all the requirements doesn't necessarily mean you will be selected. It all depends on how many people SE feels it needs to properly conduct its tests.

Hey Yoichi Wada. Comments like "It's almost finished" at the start of the Beta worrys the crap out of me.

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Originally Posted by Rizon

Please read everything. No matter what you status level is you must apply to be a tester. This begins in January. Only those who apply will be eligible for Phases 1-3. Only those who apply are prioritized for selection. They will start by selecting Legacy holders who apply. As Phases 1 and 2 are for JP servers only I suspect that there will be a hidden priority for JP players over other regions. Just because you fill all the requirements doesn't necessarily mean you will be selected. It all depends on how many people SE feels it needs to properly conduct its tests.

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Only those who apply are prioritized for selection.

Of course, but like I said If you apply and You ARE a Legacy Member, Then you have Seniority to get in. And yes I did read everything tyvm.

Edit: I mean why bother put "Legacy Status Holders" if they didn't have Priority? if they didn't, mine as well just say " FFXIV Account holders" period and left it at that. Saying something like " Legacy Status Holders and then Non-Legacy status get in... Shrugs

- All Legacy status holders qualify as testers in phase 1.

So does that mean Non-Legacy members Qualify for "Phase 1"? If they did they would have put it there and not leave it out.

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Originally Posted by Zezlar

Hey Yoichi Wada. Comments like "It's almost finished" at the start of the Beta worrys the crap out of me.

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Hey Zezlar. As a matter of fact, a game that enters beta is "almost finished".

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

Nothing really needs clarification to me, but since we can use 1.0 characters in phase 3 but "phase 3 characters will be deleted at the start of phase 4" doesn't mean we'll lose our 1.0 characters right/ just whatever was done in phase 3? lol...

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Think of it this way, there will be no character saves at the completion of the first 3 phases. If you created a new character for testing it will simply vanish at the end of that particular testing phase. For those using Ver 1.0 characters they will just import the character data from the 1 Nov save for each testing phase.

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Originally Posted by HiirNoivl

Oh yeah if you entered it in then it's in your account. I went back and edited my post. He should be find but if he wants further assurance just ask a rep. :)

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Not everyone who has a SE Account is a SE member. 2 entirely different entities. If I read it correctly there will be a box to enter the code when appling to be a PS3 tester to cover those who are not SE members

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Originally Posted by Abriael

Hey Zezlar. As a matter of fact, a game that enters beta is "almost finished".

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In terms of overall time sure. It's closer to release now than it was on the last roadmap, but ARR has a lot of leg work to go before you give your employees the impression of "it's almost finished." Just because it's in Beta doesn't mean it's anywhere near done.

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Originally Posted by Rizon

Please read everything. No matter what you status level is you must apply to be a tester. This begins in January. Only those who apply will be eligible for Phases 1-3. Only those who apply are prioritized for selection. They will start by selecting Legacy holders who apply. As Phases 1 and 2 are for JP servers only I suspect that there will be a hidden priority for JP players over other regions. Just because you fill all the requirements doesn't necessarily mean you will be selected. It all depends on how many people SE feels it needs to properly conduct its tests.

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Didn't they say if you applied for Alpha you don't have to apply for beta?

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Originally Posted by Abriael

The roadmap *includes* delays. That's why it shows a best and worst case scenario for each phase.

Again, the july prediction is off, and those that said that they had on high authority (you know who you are) that the beta would start much later than we expected were simply lying.

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I love a little delusion with my morning coffee. Specimen A here is desperately trying to rationalize away the release date, even though the word delay is printed like twice on every page of the thing, and they have delayed everything about this game. They even delay the delays. If you add 1 week to each of the last 3 phases (very conservative) you're looking at an August 2013 launch. And yet, the mind of Specimen A so soundly rejects it. What the hell were you telling yourself about release before this morning?

*goes out of his way to squish a couple of ants on an anthill in Africa*

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Originally Posted by Neptune

I love a little delusion with my morning coffee

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I noticed. You do sound quite delusional.

They clearly stated a best case and a worse case. At the moment theorizing further delays on top of a worst case scenario is a baseless exercise of trolling. We have no reason to add any further weeks to a schedule that was purposely left elastic just to prove a false point.

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Originally Posted by Zezlar

In terms of overall time sure. It's closer to release now than it was on the last roadmap, but ARR has a lot of leg work to go before you give your employees the impression of "it's almost finished." Just because it's in Beta doesn't mean it's anywhere near done.

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Considering how beta development continued paralel to the alpha, we actually have no idea of how far the game has gone or how near is to "finished".

As a matter of fact, I'm quite sure Wada knows better than we do about it.

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Originally Posted by Starlord

Only those who apply are prioritized for selection.

Of course, but like I said If you apply and You ARE a Legacy Member, Then you have Seniority to get in. And yes I did read everything tyvm.

Edit: I mean why bother put "Legacy Status Holders" if they didn't have Priority? if they didn't, mine as well just say " FFXIV Account holders" period and left it at that. Saying something like " Legacy Status Holders and then Non-Legacy status get in... Shrugs

- All Legacy status holders qualify as testers in phase 1.

So does that mean Non-Legacy members Qualify for "Phase 1"? If they did they would have put it there and not leave it out.

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Guess I wasn't clear on my intent. Just because you are a Legacy holder doesn't mean you will begin Beta testing in Feb as some posters seem to think. It just means that if you complete the application process you will automatically qualify and be prioritized at the top of the list. If they have more applicants then they have available slots then some Legacy Holders will be left out. Conversely, if not enough Legacy holders apply then they will go to account holders to fulfill their needs. Granted the latter scenario is not likely but SE was covering all their bases. You don't get put on any list if you don't apply.

According to Reinheart, it was confirmed in the chat that all Legacy members get in.

ETA: From Reinheart's thread

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Last part of that page they are confirming all players with Legacy status is automatically granted access to beta, so we probably don't even need to worry about the selection process this time around.

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Originally Posted by Meatdawg

Didn't they say if you applied for Alpha you don't have to apply for beta?

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This roadmap clearly implies that you must apply to be a Beta tester, at least that is my reading of it. I do not remember reading anything about Alpha testers being automatically registered for Beta testing but then again I could have missed it.

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Originally Posted by Seirra_Lanzce

Wow wow wow guys, let's read for a moment,

- All Legacy status holders qualify as testers in phase 1.

This already shown that is not 100% all Legacy will be in Phase 1.

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You forgetting it says ALL.

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Originally Posted by Rizon

Guess I wasn't clear on my intent. Just because you are a Legacy holder doesn't mean you will begin Beta testing in Feb as some posters seem to think. It just means that if you complete the application process you will automatically qualify and be prioritized at the top of the list. If they have more applicants then they have available slots then some Legacy Holders will be left out. Conversely, if not enough Legacy holders apply then they will go to account holders to fulfill their needs. Granted the latter scenario is not likely but SE was covering all their bases. You don't get put on any list if you don't apply.

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And if you read this post you would see I am in agreement with you.

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Yes I understand that, but with 5-10 world:

If 5 worlds and they stick in at least 2k players that's 10k people
If 10 Worlds and they stick at least 2k players that's 20k people

It really depends on:

- Amount of Legacy Players ( It's an unknown number, but I still think it's a high number *40k*)
- How many worlds there's going to be ( 5-10)
- How many Players they plan to put in each server

So If there's 10 worlds at 2k a Server Half the people will get in ( and assume it will Constantly grow until ALL Legacy Members are in).

If they 5k a Server It's very Possible all of us can get in.

But enough of Math, I'm just happy Legacy gets Priority, I only have to worry about other Legacy members .

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We are Prioritized Yes, but that doesn't mean we will get in Your Absolutely right.

Like I said it will depend on:

- Amount of Legacy Players ( It's an unknown number, but I still think it's a high number *40k*)
- How many worlds there's going to be ( 5-10)
- How many Players they plan to put in each server

Who knows Us Legacy players " Could all make it in", but it really depends on the 3 things I listed above will determine that. At least half of the Legacy players will make it in and will progressively expand.

Also in Regards to Legacy having to apply ( though I really don;t care I'm going to apply anyhow to make sure :P):

The following players are eligible:

-Legacy Status Holders
-Applicants selected through the Beta Tester Application Site.

Again why put both? They are basically saying " everyone is Eligible" unless they had a reason to put it on there o.o.

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Originally Posted by HiirNoivl

You need the code to get the Beta ticket. YOu don't have to literally have in your hot Lalahands, you just need to have it somewhere stored or saved on your computer... or written down in a notebook.

I never played XIII but I'm Legacy so I get into Beta for PC! Yayzors! \o.O/

P.S. if you entered it, then it's recorded in your account somewhere... ask a customer service Rep or wait for more info.

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I was actually wondering about this. Since they changed the site, the old directions to find the bonus/code that can be found from XIV launch are no longer valid. Anyone have some updated instructions?

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Originally Posted by Starlord

And if you read this post you would see I am in agreement with you.



We are Prioritized Yes, but that doesn't mean we will get in Your Absolutely right.

Like I said it will depend on:

- Amount of Legacy Players ( It's an unknown number, but I still think it's a high number *40k*)
- How many worlds there's going to be ( 5-10)
- How many Players they plan to put in each server

Who knows Us Legacy players " Could all make it in", but it really depends on the 3 things I listed above will determine that. At least half of the Legacy players will make it in and will progressively expand.

Also in Regards to Legacy having to apply ( though I really don;t care I'm going to apply anyhow to make sure :P):

The following players are eligible:

-Legacy Status Holders
-Applicants selected through the Beta Tester Application Site.

Again why put both? They are basically saying " everyone is Eligible" unless they had a reason to put it on there o.o.

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Because lawyers got involved. This typical legal asscovering.

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Originally Posted by AlexNiculaie

According to Reinheart, it was confirmed in the chat that all Legacy members get in.

ETA: From Reinheart's thread

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Awesome! then Scratch what I said about all the Math because it doesn't matter now! :P

The following players are eligible:
* A Square Enix account is required to participate in the beta test. However,
an account is not required when submitting a beta tester application.
• Legacy Status Holders
• FFXIV Service Account Holders
• Applicants selected through the Beta Tester Application Site

I think because they put this one line here means that when they say legacy members qualify for ph1, and account holders qualify for ph3, that means they auto get in, while those that have neither but apply will get selected after. I think the worlds will be able to have well more than 2000 logged on at a time. More than 5000 too. So I believe they would be able to fit all the current legacy members onto 10 worlds.

You can look at how many worlds there are for 1.0, how many people you think were playing across all those worlds, then take in account that we are just talking about legacy members being instant qualified to be placed across 5-10 worlds. know also that 1.0 worlds cant hold nearly as many people as ARR worlds, as they have told us already.

It will happen.

For phase 2, it looks to be selection based, since they didnt put anything there. Ph3 all FFXIV account holders will get in (including legacy, since they are account holders too), Ph4 same as ph2

But it could also mean legacy get auto-access for phase 1 and 2, and account holders get auto-access for 3-4, they just didnt put them in twice. that I would like a little clarification on.

Wow so we're looking at a June launch? I definitely hate that I was right about the 6 months of downtime, but it's definitely needed to ensure the quality of this game.

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Originally Posted by Sabaku_Usagi

Wow so we're looking at a June launch? I definitely hate that I was right about the 6 months of downtime, but it's definitely needed to ensure the quality of this game.

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Could be even longer depending on how testers feel about content and systems.

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Originally Posted by Sabaku_Usagi

Wow so we're looking at a June launch? I definitely hate that I was right about the 6 months of downtime, but it's definitely needed to ensure the quality of this game.

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No, we're not, We're looking at a launch that could be anywhere between April and June. Which is quite different.

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Originally Posted by Zezlar

Could be even longer depending on how testers feel about content and systems.

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I'm one of those really picky with the game content/quality so you'll see me giving lots of feedback during beta... if my feedback leads to games delay, I apologize now LOL

EDIT: OK just watched the video to the part where YoshiP commented on Legacy members. It's confirmed. YoshiP said ALL LEGACY MEMBERS WILL GET TO START FROM PHASE 1, no registration, selection is needed.

01:49:00 into the vid for those that want to confirm.

Also for those that got selected from Alpha, they will try to get more priority to get in beta fast but may not be for all at phase 1.

For those with current version FFXIV account they will be able to play from phase 3, if they didn't get selected already for previous phases.

Thanks Reinheart :) I hope people will stop spazzing out now about this.

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Originally Posted by Reinheart

01:49:00 into the vid for those that want to confirm.

Also for those that got selected from Alpha, they will try to get more priority to get in beta fast but may not be for all at phase 1.

For those with current version FFXIV account they will be able to play from phase 3, if they didn't get selected already for previous phases.

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Yep, Reinheart is right, at least from what I can understand.

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Originally Posted by Naraku_Diabolos

Thanks Reinheart :) I hope people will stop spazzing out now about this.

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Never. It will just be different people that will spaz now.

Get ready! you can't hide bugs cos we are gonna find you all when beta come out ^^ :P

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Originally Posted by Wynn

Never. It will just be different people that will spaz now.

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Yep, " I DON'T HAVE LEGACY" SO THAT MEANS I CAN'T GET IN" I know how you feel... we were left out in Alpha...lol

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Originally Posted by Reinheart

I'm one of those really picky with the game content/quality so you'll see me giving lots of feedback during beta... if my feedback leads to games delay, I apologize now LOL

EDIT: OK just watched the video to the part where YoshiP commented on Legacy members. It's confirmed. YoshiP said ALL LEGACY MEMBERS WILL GET TO START FROM PHASE 1, no registration, selection is needed.

01:49:00 into the vid for those that want to confirm.

Also for those that got selected from Alpha, they will try to get more priority to get in beta fast but may not be for all at phase 1.

For those with current version FFXIV account they will be able to play from phase 3, if they didn't get selected already for previous phases.

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Well said Reinheart. Indeed, if you are a legacy member, then guess what? You're in beta. From the very freakin beginning. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.

Hopefully, people will stop trying to complicate this, lol. But that's a very small and distant hope... -.-

Yeah I bookmarked his post to refer to later if people try to muddy the water :D

Also shown the relevant passage to Japanese native speaker friend. She confirms what Reinheart said.

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Originally Posted by Mieck

Lol at URL typo in the top right corner...

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So, April(ish) looks to be when we'll get back in with our own characters and when Thanalan and La Noscea open up. And that's if we stay on schedule.

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That's at the minimum. So 8-18 weeks So we're looking at PS3 Beta around march to april, and the Beta will end April to June. Based on How well the game runs and feedback and tweaking. Plus the time after it's all ready. Soo... I'm guessing maybe July, August? Heck they might even have the same release date as the 1.0 lol September 22nd for early Pre orders and sept 30th for the normal ones. =P

We still have a long time until the game is out and we can play again.

Oh well, I saw this coming. I guess ill be playing ffxi longer :P

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Originally Posted by SpringLeaf

That's at the minimum.

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Nope. She's referrring to phase 3 (characters from 1.0 available and Ul'dah/limsa leveling path available), which will be between 5 and 11 weeks, meaning between late March and late May.

ok so from what i read, all legacy account holders will have a spot in beta, its no longer eligible but qualify. also they setting up 10 worlds for beta. so it makes sense that this time, its going down in feb. lol or am i just delusional.

Page 11 ........."Materia crafting" O.o

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Originally Posted by Sabaku_Usagi

Wow so we're looking at a June launch? I definitely hate that I was right about the 6 months of downtime, but it's definitely needed to ensure the quality of this game.

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yeah i see june to be about the right time to relaunch the game also. considering its a fair amount of time for SE to test and fix,etc etc. plus what a better way to release a game not too long after E3.

materia crafting where??

More time to play xi yay~~

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Originally Posted by Abriael

No, we're not, We're looking at a launch that could be anywhere between April and June. Which is quite different.

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Lol, you really need to quit it. Your view on this is becoming worse than those trolls who magically claim to already know launch dates through some secret grapevine.. Based on the roadmap, and the history of XIV's updates throughout 1.0, launch isn't likely till July. Sure, if you want to be completly naive and go against what has happened with every update thus far, wishing on a star for the earliest possible launch given on a roadmap (which I'm not sure if has EVER happened for ANY MMO in development..) then so be it. Just don't expect other people to hop on that bandwagon, and do expect to called out on it over... and over..

Though, for the sake of argument, I guess it could be argued that if Phase 4 technically becomes the "headstart" as suggested, that opens up a chance for a much earlier "launch". Still, turn down the fanboi some, and turn up reality.

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Originally Posted by kingloki

Page 11 ........."Materia crafting" O.o

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Maybe I wont be shamelessly bumping my materia thread in beta.. XD

Free company points - looks like they are adapting a kind of skill tree for the FC system. That with housing bonuses - seems really cool hope it helps build the tight communities.