Dark Knight DD or Tank

i think dark knights should were a utility belt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5U_b6c52is Just give me these back and I'm happy.

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Originally Posted by syntaxlies

i think dark knights should were a utility belt.

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No likes? Crazy people~

+1'd

And I think the Dark Knight will be using a Greatsword because it not only fits in line with an anti-paladin (no shield + larger of same type weapon) but also because a scythe is already in use (by bots... :D (BTN) lol)

Ya i want to lean away from Scythes, GS are the better choice.

Scythes are for farmers.

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Originally Posted by Brannigan

Scythes are for farmers.

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Death/Grim Reaper farms souls. Dark Knights are synonymous with death.

Therefore Scythes are for Dark Knights.

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Originally Posted by Brannigan

Scythes are for farmers.

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In that case, the grim reaper is farming souls with his scythe.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

Death/Grim Reaper farms souls. Dark Knights are synonymous with death.

Therefore Scythes are for Dark Knights.

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Knights use swords. Dark Knights are knights (with sensitive skin, so they prefer darkness). Therefore, Dark Knights should use swords.

Dark Knights should use Scythes. It's a more interesting and exotic-looking weapon compared to just a longer, heavier sword.

Perhaps the scythe can be a spell effect - or they will introduce jobs that can use two weapon types.

But if there is only one weapon option it should be a sword base. That is the classic Square Enix weapon for the dark knight.

If SE could make a way to have Drks be stronger with a 1 handed sword than a GLA i would like it. My biggest worry is how is Drk gonna stand up to already overpowered Drg.

Drg is faster and Stronger than a War with Gaxe and Gaxe in 11 were i kinda forget it was either slightly weaker than Scythe but faster or it was vise versa stronger but slower.

If Drks horrible acc from 11 carries over from 11 while drgs have ws to use incase they miss. Drg already has Life surge which shouldve been for drk, and good god whats drk gonna have over Power surge? Last resort? Great a whm is gonna hate you if you cant heal yourself like a Drg can with second wind and life surge.

No im not asking to nerf DRG but what the hell will Drk possible get that would make it be picked over a drg in a party. cause i dont want Drk to have a repeat of never getting pt invites like in 11.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

Death/Grim Reaper farms souls. Dark Knights are synonymous with death.

Therefore Scythes are for Dark Knights.

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No you just want it FF 11 <.<

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Originally Posted by Firon

No you just want it FF 11 <.<

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Ironically DRK in XI got it's abilities from previous FF games.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

Ironically DRK in XI got it's abilities from previous FF games.

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didnt get Darkness. and cecil dint have souleater or last resort, or elemental magic or any spells actually.

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Originally Posted by KoujiGeki

didnt get Darkness. and cecil dint have souleater

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These are the same thing.

Darkness ability which you reduce your health to fire a blast of Dark energy which hit all enemies, and Souleater a buff that reduced your hp for your auto attack to hit 1 enemy. ya totally the same thing. gotcha

Darkness, Darkside (暗黒剣, Ankokuken?), or Shadow Blade, is an ability where a character sacrifices a small amount of HP to deliver a strong Dark-elemental attack on all enemies. It is usually associated with the Dark Knight job.

Crisis Core -Final Fantasy VII

Zack can use Darkness by equipping the appropriate Materia. By sacrificing 12.5% of his HP, the player may damage all enemies within a certain radius around Zack, ignoring vitality. The ability costs no AP to use

Final Fantasy IV

Darkness, also known as Dark Wave, is used by Dark Knight Cecil. It hits all enemies at the cost of his HP. It did not appear as a command in the game's North American SNES version. However, during Cecil's encounter with his Dark Knight copy during his Paladin trial, the copy still uses this move.

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Originally Posted by KoujiGeki

If SE could make a way to have Drks be stronger with a 1 handed sword than a GLA i would like it. My biggest worry is how is Drk gonna stand up to already overpowered Drg.

Drg is faster and Stronger than a War with Gaxe and Gaxe in 11 were i kinda forget it was either slightly weaker than Scythe but faster or it was vise versa stronger but slower.

If Drks horrible acc from 11 carries over from 11 while drgs have ws to use incase they miss. Drg already has Life surge which shouldve been for drk, and good god whats drk gonna have over Power surge? Last resort? Great a whm is gonna hate you if you cant heal yourself like a Drg can with second wind and life surge.

No im not asking to nerf DRG but what the hell will Drk possible get that would make it be picked over a drg in a party. cause i dont want Drk to have a repeat of never getting pt invites like in 11.

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I think Dark Knight would the one the Absorb HP/Drain spells goes back into, along with the rest of the absorbs. Perhaps the Absorb stat spells could effect the whole party like they use to with THM too.

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Originally Posted by Reika

I think Dark Knight would the one the Absorb HP/Drain spells goes back into, along with the rest of the absorbs. Perhaps the Absorb stat spells could effect the whole party like they use to with THM too.

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Yes but IF they make Drk branch off Gla its 5 extra abilities are wont be all absorbs. I mean if they take Drk right out from FFT theres the 5 abilites right there.

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Originally Posted by KoujiGeki

Yes but IF they make Drk branch off Gla its 5 extra abilities are wont be all absorbs. I mean if they take Drk right out from FFT theres the 5 abilites right there.

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That depends on what they do with classes, and if they even plan on actually making it branch off of gladiator. If it does.... I dont mind tanking as DRK.

Darkness (IV, X-2) = AoE, Costs HP.
Darkside/Soul Eater (VIII, XI) = Single Target, Costs HP.

Steel Cyclone XIV = AoE, Great Axe WS.
Steel Cyclone XI = Single Target, Great Axe WS.

Basically the same move and idea, just a difference of AoE or not...

Anyway, if DRK is implemented and their weapon of choice is scythe.. AF shoud look like this:

http://www.mahq.net/mecha/gundam/w/xxxg-01d.jpg

Let Samurai get mad about it.

http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/a...4tx4o1_400.gif This is how dark knight should feel.

I would hope DRK DD, too. I will definitely level it, whenever they introduce it, still to this day regret not doing so in FFXI.

There is also Dark Knight from Tatics.

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Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki

There is also Dark Knight from Tatics.

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Pretty much all the Dark Knights but FFXI used a sword type (one or two handed) even in FFXI there are swords but they also added scythes.

They were all DD - not bad HP because they used it as one of their casting resources but their defense wasn't great.

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Originally Posted by Shougun

Pretty much all the Dark Knights but FFXI used a sword type (one or two handed) even in FFXI there are swords but they also added scythes.

They were all DD - not bad HP because they used it as one of their casting resources but their defense wasn't great.

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In Tatics you could have a .01 percent chance to be hit. Then again an emeny could hit you, but with a 99% chance you'll miss them. So it's messed up anyway, dark knights could use sword to greatswords in tatics and use a shield. They could equip Eschteon, I know it's spelled wrong sorry.

Dark Knights should be both a DD/Tank if they wanted to be.

Paladin more defenseive tank better for adds, Dark Knights would be the more DDing better for main tanking, and warrior would be well-rounded so good for both situations but not as good as eith Pld or drk.

That's how I would make my tanks.

It's kinda of... hypocritical... people wanted white mage to not only be healers, but damage dealers too. Which is why the wheel was split, which is still a dumb idea. Yet when it comes to different plays styles people want dark knight to be DD only? So all that heavy armor and the greatsword is for show? More armor than a paladin, and a warrior put together yet can't take a hit?

We already have a tank that does decent damage in warrior. I think having a tank with high damage would not be balanced and would make the warrior obsolete.

Damage dealers can be more specialized than tanks, by that I mean armor class, weapon choices, spells etc,. etc. There has to be some trade off to even things out, though.