Phantom Jobs are a step in the right direction but need iteration.

I don’t know anything about scaling or the like but I still really dislike that like 90% of the phantom abilities are set-and-forget cool downs. Like, why are they so allergic to spellcasting? Why do you still have this mechanic in your game if you’re so against ever actually utilising it? I mean, even Comet is clearly supposed to be used with Quick or Swiftcast (idk if it’s a dps loss or gain otherwise but still lol).

Also what is up with Occult Heal? Knights couldn’t heal in FFV Yoshi this is sacrilege! Plus it’s so expensive (50% MP cost for like, less than a Cure II?). Why are ok with Phantom Bard/Monk/Samurai but not a Phantom White Mage with actual healing spells that aren’t limited by consumables? Hell they could even give it a Lucid Dreaming equivalent so melee/phys ranged/tanks that aren’t PLD/DRK have a means of MP management. And like would it really so bad if there was a cast-able Phantom Raise spell as a counterpart to Revive being an oGCD? Revive would still massively outclass it anyway (they really wanted people to use Phantom Chemist lol).

It could’ve had potential but the whole thing feels like a wasted opportunity to me. Yes I’m pretty sure I said that before but now I’m saying it again lol

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Originally Posted by Aco505

You can use most if not all phantom job or Logos/Lost Actions on any job. Of course, inevitably some will be better with specific ones. pBerserker is clearly designed to be used by WAR/DRK but luckily anyone else can also make use of them with the help of an Oracle. Optimal doesn't always mean the most used or fun in any case, as stuff like Watcher (for permanent instant cast), Breathtaker (for quasi-permanent Potion and Ether kits) and Beast (for DPS sustain and survival) in Bozja was quite popular outside of DRS due to their powerful effects, even if it meant dealing less damage.

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The problem is that lost actions like watcher or breathtaker (or even fiendhunter cure 2) altered your playstyle so you could play for the fun or doing something different even if it was an absolute loss over say lost font

Phantom actions just simply don’t have that diversity. You either do boring optimal damage or you do boring less optimal damage. Oracle is just about the only one that feels like the lost action system and I don’t think it’s a stretch to say oracle is the current undisputed most popular phantom job (excluding like cannon being used more even if it’s not amazingly designed because of gold farming)

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Originally Posted by Supersnow845

The problem is that lost actions like watcher or breathtaker (or even fiendhunter cure 2) altered your playstyle so you could play for the fun or doing something different even if it was an absolute loss over say lost font

Phantom actions just simply don’t have that diversity. You either do boring optimal damage or you do boring less optimal damage. Oracle is just about the only one that feels like the lost action system and I don’t think it’s a stretch to say oracle is the current undisputed most popular phantom job (excluding like cannon being used more even if it’s not amazingly designed because of gold farming)

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I agree. Oracle is my favorite phantom job but sadly it's only fun when you can get away with using Starfall, something only tanks and healers can do on their own. A DPS needs support from them as otherwise you just blow yourself up (which is always fun tbf).

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Originally Posted by Aco505

I agree. Oracle is my favorite phantom job but sadly it's only fun when you can get away with using Starfall, something only tanks and healers can do on their own. A DPS needs support from them as otherwise you just blow yourself up (which is always fun tbf).

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At lv4 they learn a self delayed AoE benediction which when used smartly, it can easily remove the danger of dying even as a DPS. It does takes a while to learn when to use them though.