These forums are a minority, endwalker was great

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Originally Posted by Zairava

I'm sure you'll totally change the minds of dissatisfied players

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I don't want to do that, I want you to go play a different game that satisfies you instead.

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Originally Posted by Battler-Ushiromiya

I don't want to do that, I want you to go play a different game that satisfies you instead.

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Currently what I'm doing. Like I said, having a bunch of fun on WoW, it's getting a bunch of good changes and additions in the future too.

I'm mostly just waiting on news from JP fanfest and whenever they decide to drop details on job changes (which isn't until 4-5 months from now at minimum).

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Originally Posted by Zairava

Currently what I'm doing. Like I said, having a bunch of fun on WoW, it's getting a bunch of good changes and additions in the future too.

I'm mostly just waiting on news from JP fanfest and whenever they decide to drop details on job changes (which isn't until 4-5 months from now at minimum).

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Not interested in it enough, yet, to want to play WoW, and definitely still want to play FFXIV, but I have to admit some of the recent changes in game and in general philosophy of approach to the game, and then the known upcoming changes... I was like "wow WoW is looking good".

Hopefully they will take that as the early war cry and prepare to address short comings in advance rather than wait for any sort of reverse refugee situation lol. Why wait for the fire when you can smell the smoke coming over the trees?

Especially, imo, especially smoke because in my eyes you can see WoW is directly eyeballing FFXIV now, for what it does well that it can take and make their own (which is what made them a good MMO originally*), with some of their statements but also with the whole Warband thing, which is dang near jobs in FFXIV. *Can see they still do it here and there, but the recent news and changes makes it seem like they're more active and less the slumbery sleepy blizz too busy making their employees lives difficult.

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Originally Posted by Shougun

Not interested in it enough, yet, to want to play WoW, and definitely still want to play FFXIV, but I have to admit some of the recent changes in game and in general philosophy of approach to the game, and then the known upcoming changes... I was like "wow WoW is looking good".

Hopefully they will take that as the early war cry and prepare to address short comings in advance rather than wait for any sort of reverse refugee situation lol. Why wait for the fire when you can smell the smoke coming over the trees?

Especially, imo, especially smoke because in my eyes you can see WoW is directly eyeballing FFXIV now, for what it does well that it can take and make their own (which is what made them a good MMO originally), with some of their statements but also with the whole Warband thing, which is dang near jobs in FFXIV.

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Warbands are gonna be so damn good and nice to have, it's going to be so much easier to gear alts. Even getting transmogs for gear types that you can't use on your current class is going to be easier.

My pipe dream would be to see them implement being able to enter dungeons with them

Wait, people actually *want* TP back??? Every time I heard anyone talk about it they made it sound awful, I'd rather not have to deal with a third bar to manage in this game. At least with magic is makes sense but add in most caster jobs are geared towards if you're out of magic you did something wrong with your rotation. If I had the choice I'd pick fluid gameplay over accidentally not being able to fight because I didn't pay attention to a bar that doesn't make much sense.

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Originally Posted by DisasterGayofCrisis

Wait, people actually *want* TP back??? Every time I heard anyone talk about it they made it sound awful, I'd rather not have to deal with a third bar to manage in this game. At least with magic is makes sense but add in most caster jobs are geared towards if you're out of magic you did something wrong with your rotation. If I had the choice I'd pick fluid gameplay over accidentally not being able to fight because I didn't pay attention to a bar that doesn't make much sense.

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No one in their right mind actually wants TP back, that is the one sole thing I don't miss.

You want TP back? XDDD is a disingenuous remark against people who complain against shb/ew trashfire 1-2-3-4-4-4 casul game design.

Can you say that in blue

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Originally Posted by Fourbestintoner

You want TP back? XDDD is a disingenuous remark against people who complain against shb/ew trashfire 1-2-3-4-4-4 casul game design.

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Why add one bad game design to an already bad game design. Noboby wins except weird purist veterans

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Originally Posted by Battler-Ushiromiya

Keep crying about it, you're never getting TP back and that's a good thing. This game isn't for you anymore.

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Originally Posted by Battler-Ushiromiya

I don't want to do that, I want you to go play a different game that satisfies you instead.

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im going to be honest., perhaps brutally. but i dont think anybody who tells others that this game isnt for them should be this games target audience. ig what im saying is.. this mentality is legit toxic to the game. if everybody who was on your side felt this way. there be maybe 5k players left in total. I get this comment is a troll.. but i cant not call out the audacity of its claims. because ik others legit belive they have the authority to tell others they dont belong here. thats for them to decide. you should remove yourself from conversations you dont agree with. instead of stifiling them with whatever this was

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Originally Posted by Zairava

Been having more fun on WoW in the last 3-4 weeks then I have with Endwalker even on expansion launch.

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Season of Discovery has been popping off and honestly has been a blast so far.

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Originally Posted by Amenara

Season of Discovery has been popping off and honestly has been a blast so far.

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Not exactly surprising, they took the arguably most popular version of their game and made more playstyles actually viable.
People have been asking for classic+ for a while and this might be them testing the waters.

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Originally Posted by Absurdity

Not exactly surprising, they took the arguably most popular version of their game and made more playstyles actually viable.
People have been asking for classic+ for a while and this might be them testing the waters.

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So it's the opposite of XIV, where devs only really cater to 10% of the base who have nullified classes into a homogenous blob. I've been saying this but XIV players don't went to hear it-- WoW is drawing people back in. XIV is becoming dull when many ongoing titles today are actually changing things around or exceeding expectations in some other way. XIV is copy pasting and simplifying because "muh consistency".

And even with a brand new class, 7.0 seems primed to dive head first into the safe zone, if it's even possible for the game to get any further into it.

Blizzard had to take some risks and shake things up, given the last couple of expansions were....divisive, to say the least. SE's been complacent for a while. We'll see how that goes for them in Dawntrail.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

Blizzard had to take some risks and shake things up, given the last couple of expansions were....divisive, to say the least. SE's been complacent for a while. We'll see how that goes for them in Dawntrail.

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I am not expecting much after NA and EU Fanfest unless they go crazy at JP I just don't think they will push the boat out. We also know what we are getting and it's pretty much the same formula but hey at least we get a new exploratory zone because for some reason they thought VC dungeons and a DD could fill that void.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

Blizzard had to take some risks and shake things up, given the last couple of expansions were....divisive, to say the least. SE's been complacent for a while. We'll see how that goes for them in Dawntrail.

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My hope is Blizzard popping off this year and doing a lot of good things will help push SE to try new things as well with DT after seeing their primary competition do it. Guess we'll see.

Would it be okay if SE release less dungeons, less savage raids in exchange of different types of contents just to shake up the "formula" people keep complaining about?

If you want extra contents, just ask for moooore. That's what players do best.

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Originally Posted by Aword3213

Would it be okay if SE release less dungeons, less savage raids in exchange of different types of contents just to shake up the "formula" people keep complaining about?

If you want extra contents, just ask for moooore. That's what players do best.

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Nah they just need to invest more into their cash cow before it starts to dry up.

Lately, I've been thoroughly enjoying Endwalker—there's just something about the storyline and environments that resonates with me. Of course, everyone's got their own take on it, and that's part of what makes the gaming community so diverse, right?

Playing as my Roegadyn has been an absolute blast. Speaking of which, I'm eagerly anticipating what Dawntrail has in store, especially in the realm of new Roegadyn characters. Here's to hoping for some incredible additions to the mix, perhaps a few towering, burly allies to spice up our adventures!

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Originally Posted by Mosha

Nah they just need to invest more into their cash cow before it starts to dry up.

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Don't worry, FF7R2 will be out soon enough.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

Don't worry, FF7R2 will be out soon enough.

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Yeah, they will make bank on FF7R2 and then piss it all away on some Forspoken tier garbage and FF14 remains keeping the lights on. What was the other one? the live service one.....no not Outriders the other one I can't remember the name of.

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Originally Posted by Mosha

Yeah, they will make bank on FF7R2 and then piss it all away on some Forspoken tier garbage and FF14 remains keeping the lights on. What was the other one? the live service one.....no not Outriders the other one I can't remember the name of.

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You're gonna have to be more specific because that could refer to babylon's fall, chocobo GP (before they relaunched it) or FF7 the first soldier.

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Originally Posted by Saraide

You're gonna have to be more specific because that could refer to babylon's fall, chocobo GP (before they relaunched it) or FF7 the first soldier.

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It was Babylon's Fall but two more examples don't hurt

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Originally Posted by Saraide

You're gonna have to be more specific because that could refer to babylon's fall, chocobo GP (before they relaunched it) or FF7 the first soldier.

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You forgot the Marvel Avengers one.

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Originally Posted by Absurdity

You forgot the Marvel Avengers one.

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Originally Posted by Battler-Ushiromiya

Keep crying about it, you're never getting TP back and that's a good thing. This game isn't for you anymore.

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It's so great that I have never done any of the raids, dungeons, and primal fights more than once. Endwalker just too boring the older content is way better.

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Originally Posted by hynaku

It's so great that I have never done any of the raids, dungeons, and primal fights more than once. Endwalker just too boring the older content is way better.

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Naw the older content is also stale and boring.



Except Ivalice. Ivalice rocks

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

Naw the older content is also stale and boring.

Except Ivalice. Ivalice rocks

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It all boils down to the combat design for me, it didn't just make current content stale and boring but inadvertently made old content worse as well.
Even the Ivalice raids are an absolute boring joke nowadays and as far as I know only Cid got nerfed directly.

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Originally Posted by Battler-Ushiromiya

Keep crying about it, you're never getting TP back and that's a good thing. This game isn't for you anymore.

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Yeah but don't forget, the Japanese forum "minority" got the devs crying over whatever they did to samurai

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

Naw the older content is also stale and boring.



Except Ivalice. Ivalice rocks

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I still enjoy the Nier raids and SB primal fights. Only ARR content is stale from them nerfing it so much.

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Originally Posted by Absurdity

It all boils down to the combat design for me, it didn't just make current content stale and boring but inadvertently made old content worse as well.
Even the Ivalice raids are an absolute boring joke nowadays and as far as I know only Cid got nerfed directly.

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I think the issue is more so that combat in FFXIV sucks hard than raid encounters.

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

I think the issue is more so that combat in FFXIV sucks hard than raid encounters.

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Right now? Absolutely.

But seems to be a conscious decision by the devs, because I don't think tab target combat itself sucks in mmos.
It's just that all moment to moment decision making (as minor as it was previously) has been sandblasted out of the game at this point and all that's left is mindlessly mashing your 1-2-3 for sometimes almost a minute until something else comes off cooldown while you occasionally dodge the bad.
So when dodging the bad isn't enough to make the combat engaging, which it isn't in 90% of content, the entire thing just falls apart.

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Originally Posted by Fourbestintoner

You want TP back? XDDD is a disingenuous remark against people who complain against shb/ew trashfire 1-2-3-4-4-4 casul game design.

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Women aren't impressed by how fast you can hit the buttons nerd

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Originally Posted by Battler-Ushiromiya

Women aren't impressed by how fast you can hit the buttons nerd

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Dial it back some, you're too on the nose with this trash ass trolling.