Fall Guys event feedback

I lost another crown due to an AoE hitting me that I did not even step in. To a person who got an achievement for TEN wins.

Do I have to DC travel to Dynamis to get a win in solo queue at this point?

Ironically, the better people become at doing the maps the better it becomes to simply qualify and immediately leave if all you want are the points for dyes, housing items, etc... It's about an average of 8-9 mins including the waiting times to do all 3 maps for an average of 300 (since only 1 out of 8 can win). You can qualify for the first map and dip out of the second map in about 3-4 mins. If you are lucky enough to get the red, yellow, blue map for the 2nd wave and are good at the timing you can get 250 in 3-4 mins and then dip after qualifying.

This is with people taking forever with the 1st map since it takes 16 to qualify. Once everyone becomes better it will reduce the time for both, still making it more consistent for your time to do map 1 & 2 then dip out.

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Originally Posted by Thurmnmurmn

Which is normal in a collab. Imagine if the collab was better than the actual game. That would be embarrassment on a huge scale.

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SE's version is greatly inferior. I only say that I'd rather play the actual game because I have experience with it. If I never played Fall Guys, I'd sooner not engage with it either if XIV's version was my only experience with it.

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Originally Posted by Brixy

Ironically, the better people become at doing the maps the better it becomes to simply qualify and immediately leave if all you want are the points for dyes, housing items, etc... It's about an average of 8-9 mins including the waiting times to do all 3 maps for an average of 300 (since only 1 out of 8 can win). You can qualify for the first map and dip out of the second map in about 3-4 mins. If you are lucky enough to get the red, yellow, blue map for the 2nd wave and are good at the timing you can get 250 in 3-4 mins and then dip after qualifying.

This is with people taking forever with the 1st map since it takes 16 to qualify. Once everyone becomes better it will reduce the time for both, still making it more consistent for your time to do map 1 & 2 then dip out.

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Yes and no since you will also have more of a chance of getting knocked out in round 1 the better people get.
All depends on if the faster matches outweighs the potential losses.

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Originally Posted by Fawkes

I've only gotten past round 2 once. :|

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I just quit out if it is the carry one. :(

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Originally Posted by VerdeLuck

The rewards not working correctly on viera also seems kind of lazy, instead of making rewards that work on all races, they just scale them down to make them look ridiculous.

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Yeah, I do think the little bean is cute, but I would rather they actually put in the time to do it properly. Of course, if the regular headpiece requires hat hair, that is the problem.

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Originally Posted by Sourcy

[...]Do I have to DC travel to Dynamis to get a win in solo queue at this point?

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Damn, big brain move. ;)

I just settled I'd never beat the 3rd round. I was the 1st in line like 5 times in a row but ofc that's the desync that makes it appear THAT way on my screen.

For those who aren't bothered to grind for the achievement, I guess it's 'okay'.

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Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne

Damn, big brain move. ;)

I just settled I'd never beat the 3rd round. I was the 1st in line like 5 times in a row but ofc that's the desync that makes it appear THAT way on my screen.

For those who aren't bothered to grind for the achievement, I guess it's 'okay'.

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My kugane tower training arc was not in vain!
I'm at a solid 2 wins!
100 just seems so mean.

The server tick issue is really a big problem in this event, I actually put up that I really liked it in my OP, but as more and more people logged in and are playing it, it's basically become a nightmare, I'm from EU and I'm either going through things that should hit me, or getting hit by things that shouldnt hit me

actually ridiculous tbh, very sad that it ruins such a fun event, it's almost unplayable as an european playing on NA

Got hit 3 times by things that I was away from.....not having fun and I cant even get the stuff without participating. But meh, even if I lose I can very slowly build up to buy all the things I guess....Do you get the mgf or whatever it is called even if you dont try running? Because If so I might just stand still :P

After falling off the platform after 2 goddamn seconds I can confidently say that this content can f off....

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Originally Posted by LuciaMirain

Got hit 3 times by things that I was away from.....not having fun and I cant even get the stuff without participating. But meh, even if I lose I can very slowly build up to buy all the things I guess....Do you get the mgf or whatever it is called even if you dont try running? Because If so I might just stand still :P

After falling off the platform after 2 goddamn seconds I can confidently say that this content can f off....

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You do get 50 mgf I think yeah even if you dont move, and as I mentioned above, once people started to log in, the server lag + server tick both went haywire and its actually borderline unplayable at this point

what a mess and a disappointment

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Originally Posted by LuciaMirain

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Would you say the content could fall off? :)

So apparently ninja speed buff still works in this event not sure how that slipped SE QA team so I’ve been told by a couple of people and it kind of make sense because I seen a couple of get a ahead of the back compared to everyone else

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Originally Posted by MsMisato

So apparently ninja speed buff still works in this event not sure how that slipped SE QA team so I’ve been told by a couple of people and it kind of make sense because I seen a couple of get a ahead of the back compared to everyone else

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I can confirm that yeah, a friend of mine went NIN and he was way faster than everyone else, not only once but multiple times

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

Since so far I dont see any feedback thread regarding the event, here goes, gotta give props when/where it's due, the event is pretty fun and the rewards are pretty good as well, love the new glam it's adorable and the event itself is pretty fun.

Well done.

The soundtrack is amazing as well, for someone like me always turning the BGM off, I kept it on just for this one when I listened to it.

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It wasn't too bad, citizen. Another thread mentions it already but I'll reiterate here that the janky server tick rate sometimes makes it not enjoyable.




May the stars guide you.

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Originally Posted by WeebPolice

It wasn't too bad, citizen. Another thread mentions it already but I'll reiterate here that the janky server tick rate sometimes makes it not enjoyable.




May the stars guide you.

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I agree, I corrected myself last page, once everyone logged in it became a nightmare because of server tick + "natural" latency

im not enjoying it at all, im just doing the first stage and the afking the 2nd

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Originally Posted by Youkulm

I didn't expect the event to be so grindy, but so long as it becomes a part of the gold saucer rotation after the event is over, then it's not so bad at all. I'm guessing the event rewards may disappear after the initial weeks though and the only thing left will be the title achievement. Just my assumption based on what happened with Garo, I could be wrong (I hope I'm wrong).

Overall the event is really fun, it's a nice addition to Gold Saucer.

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I mean you can leech it if you want since you get 50 points no matter what. I've already decided that I'm just going to afk grind it while doing homework.

At the end, in typical ffxiv fashion. it takes way to long to load screens, display winner info, then your info, then back to the lobby

If you lose the first round, still have to go do the loading screen for 2nd because????

But at prime time today (1700 CST) we only had 9/24 people in our match.

Round 2 went really quick, only needed 1 elimination for next stage but rewards SUCKED.

It's not my fault no one queued, why am I punished for that via rewards?

https://i.imgur.com/7HjrtnF.png

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Originally Posted by Thurmnmurmn

My kugane tower training arc was not in vain!
I'm at a solid 2 wins!
100 just seems so mean.

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WTH is up with CBU3 and these insane "winning" achieves. Only 1 person out of 24 can win and they put in a 100 win achieve? That's just cruel.

I completed it got all the points I needed for all the items and got the win achievement. Now If want to do it more just for the housing items I can and don't have to worry about the other stuff.

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

If you lose the first round, still have to go do the loading screen for 2nd because????

But at prime time today (1700 CST) we only had 9/24 people in our match.

Round 2 went really quick, only needed 1 elimination for next stage but rewards SUCKED.

It's not my fault no one queued, why am I punished for that via rewards?

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On the first point, as soon as you are eliminated and see the reward in your chatlog, you can open the Duty Finder and leave - you'll keep the rewards and can bail before the loading screen if you're quick. Would be nice to just have an option to always bail automatically though.

I think the rewards thing is designed as some sort of anti-exploit? The matchmaking is kind of busted, and I've had two games where I'm in a solo instance now. I'll take the free wins and the 290 or so currency you still get after the reduction, but I can't believe nobody joined the queue in the 2-minute lobby time. Kind of reminds me of Eureka instances locking.

Just some examples of the excellent netcode we're working with here. It's like 2.0 Titan all over again.

Keep posting these. Let the devs understand that this type of gameplay doesn't work with the current backend systems.

https://i.imgur.com/XhEvZJX.mp4

https://i.imgur.com/RrJvV1o.mp4

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FFXIV really feels like it is not equipped for this kind of gameplay. What's supposed to be a fun, and goofy game mode is overshadowed by inconsistent snapshots from obstacles, and debuffs. Entering, and leaving a game is also tedious. It's just frustrating.

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

Just some examples of the excellent netcode we're working with here. It's like 2.0 Titan all over again.

Keep posting these. Let the devs understand that this type of gameplay doesn't work with the current backend systems.

https://i.imgur.com/XhEvZJX.mp4

https://i.imgur.com/RrJvV1o.mp4

https://media2.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2...M6Hx/giphy.gif

https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2...akuO/giphy.gif

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I cant lie, the fact this is the "norm" is very pathetic

The event is fun but it's a nightmare and very unfun with the natural latency and the server tick

what a mess

Wow winning 1 crown was pretty much the luckiest part because everytime I arrive at the final, I get screwed by something, it is such a mess lol

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

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I just like how I've seen some people defending this, saying how we don't know about snapshotting an' all that.

Doesn't make it any more fun. In this sort of game, if I have already ran past the obstacle, it shouldn't grab my butt from the past.

They could have at the very least given us proper warnings on the obstacles. On round 3 for example, you have no time to react to the bombs coming from the sky. If the circle spawns under you, then have fun, you ain't dodging that.

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

Just some examples of the excellent netcode we're working with here. It's like 2.0 Titan all over again.

Keep posting these. Let the devs understand that this type of gameplay doesn't work with the current backend systems.

https://i.imgur.com/XhEvZJX.mp4

https://i.imgur.com/RrJvV1o.mp4

https://media2.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2...M6Hx/giphy.gif

https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2...akuO/giphy.gif

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https://i.imgur.com/YRkuLx0.png

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

Just some examples of the excellent netcode we're working with here. It's like 2.0 Titan all over again.

Keep posting these. Let the devs understand that this type of gameplay doesn't work with the current backend systems.

https://i.imgur.com/XhEvZJX.mp4

https://i.imgur.com/RrJvV1o.mp4

https://media2.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2...M6Hx/giphy.gif

https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2...akuO/giphy.gif

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Man, I'm so glad people are finally seeing just how bad FFXIV's netcode is. Hopefully this provides some incentive to the devs to improve FFXIV's netcode/network architecture. The only way we are going to see results is if we keep calling SE out for things like this.

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Originally Posted by Anzaman

They could have at the very least given us proper warnings on the obstacles. On round 3 for example, you have no time to react to the bombs coming from the sky. If the circle spawns under you, then have fun, you ain't dodging that.

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Literally what stopped me from winning a crown today. Watched someone run by a second after I got hit.

The fact that Square Enix chose to recreate Fall Guys shows how out-of-touch they are with their own game code. How did they manage to think that this would work? Maybe they were too ashamed and would rather ignore the elephant in the room? We can't even have nice things in raids because of this, let alone a game mode like Fall Guys.

But none of this matters because the raids won't change and we won't get any improvements in 7.0. What matters most is that people buy the expac, beat the story, and unsubscribe. And looking at the Japanese forum where no one is discussing this, it's likely that the devs don't even know this exists. All that remains is some gripes on the English forums here and there, we get told to unsub or play other games, and that's it. Profit is profit.

(Don't get me wrong, the idea of a Fall Guys collab is great. Just like the ideas behind most things in FFXIV. But ideas don't play themselves.)

Btw I flippin knew this was gonna happen. This game's netcode is so stupid, and its been such a hindrance for why we cant have better and fun fights. Everything has to be design around a delay including mechanics and I seriously hope they finally realize they need to update their entire code if we want this game to be fun to play.

Being serious here, how many people ACTUALLY enjoy play FFXIV? I mean physically, in terms of combat? Because I dont. I tolerate sure but its shit like this that makes it really hard to have true fun with this game because the netcode and delay is so horribly bad. We just all gotten used to it for so long.

Well I say its time we started making more noise about this, because if the game is going to try to evolve for the next 10 years, it needs to get its network and engine upgraded just as much as the graphics.

i am just loving the fact it gives a decent amount of MGP when i saw the mgf currency i was sad cause i was thinking it wouldnt give any but it still does and its not a bad amount so even if you are losing you will make some mgp for normal gold saucer stuff too.

i will also say the whole thing is a set pattern that just repeats so once you get down what happens when and where the whole things gets just alittle bit easier.

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Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato

The fact that Square Enix chose to recreate Fall Guys shows how out-of-touch they are with their own game code. How did they manage to think that this would work? Maybe they were too ashamed and would rather ignore the elephant in the room? We can't even have nice things in raids because of this, let alone a game mode like Fall Guys.

But none of this matters because the raids won't change and we won't get any improvements in 7.0. What matters most is that people buy the expac, beat the story, and unsubscribe. And looking at the Japanese forum where no one is discussing this, it's likely that the devs don't even know this exists. All that remains is some gripes on the English forums here and there, we get told to unsub or play other games, and that's it. Profit is profit.

(Don't get me wrong, the idea of a Fall Guys collab is great. Just like the ideas behind most things in FFXIV. But ideas don't play themselves.)

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you're right while it could be a fun collab it riddled severely with the netcode issue.

I'm glad I don't like any of the glam rewards so I don't feel pressured to grind this out. Don't wanna dress like a teenager that's been made to get up at 5am to do a car bootsale with their dad.

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Originally Posted by Baxcel

But...your trolling right? Fall Guys itself is basically a PvP? There's inly 1 winner at the end an everyone is fighting to be it..

I havnt been able to try the event yet myself but this comment seems really outta place

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Yeah but here its me vs. 23 others vs netcode and ping... and its a limited event...

Honestly most the time I play the game, I'm high as a kite. So I have a small delay anyways. Works in my favor :P

Load in after que, wait 2 minutes, wait during start screen, wait before start, if you loose to timeout have fun waiting for next round before you can leave. You also wait for the winner. You also obviously wait for more to get to the next round and when you fall because it has to load again... also net code fitting for halloween.

I'm having a blast, it's probably the best collab this game has ever gotten.

The aoe telegraphs are not any more unfair than those in PvE content. They are exactly the same, there's just way more of them.

You have to remember that what you see on your screen is actually 100 or 200ms behind what's happening in reality. If you can dodge Devour in e5s, or Adelphel's orbs in DSR, you shouldn't have any issues with fall guys mechanics.

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Originally Posted by Myon88

I'm having a blast, it's probably the best collab this game has ever gotten.

The aoe telegraphs are not any more unfair than those in PvE content. They are exactly the same, there's just way more of them.

You have to remember that what you see on your screen is actually 100 or 200ms behind what's happening in reality. If you can dodge Devour in e5s, or Adelphel's orbs in DSR, you shouldn't have any issues with fall guys mechanics.

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I've enjoyed it for the little I did too.
From what I've gathered, one of the big complaints is the snapback for the ending. Feels bad to think you win to just see people behind you jump up to the crown.

Also the latency may be easier for us to deal with but it's hell for new players.

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Originally Posted by Myon88

You have to remember that what you see on your screen is actually 100 or 200ms behind what's happening in reality.

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It's mind boggling to me that people just accept this.

Thanks for the thread Stormy, good to hear it's decent.

The only thing I'm worried about is the limited time, I only have like 5 hours to play during the week, hopefully I can get some progress without having to feel like that's all I'm doing.