Can we go back to banning people for ERP crap?

Only thing that bothers me in shout chat is the wall text of information. Its not just ERP or RP ads; but free company recruiting does it too. 1 person does it, and someone does it right after them creating this big long wall of text advertising their stuff.
It would be nice if people just kept it short and to the point.

Other than that; don't shout suspicious links, or be a jerk. Its fine otherwise.

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Originally Posted by Nizzi

My grandfather once told me "I've never turned a computer on, and a computer should never ever turn you on."

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Stick to magazines! I gotcha'! :^)

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Originally Posted by AngelCheese77

You need help. Seriously wanting to remove fun from a game. Ah yes, lets all be boring and run back and forth through quests with no distractions. Lord forbid that person wants to liven things up!

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if what you call fun is degenerate perverts, trash djs, and botting, then I don't want the same 'fun' you claim to have.

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Originally Posted by dapperfaffer

degenerate perverts

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Your bias is showing.

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Originally Posted by GrizzlyTank

Your bias is showing.

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degenerate and pervert have the same meaning. its not bias when the said discussed sex act is using online fascimile representation through interprative avatars and texting, probably with the use of gpose mods to change what emotes do to further enhance the display of sexual acts occuring. it is quite simply fetishism. the fact that its non-normative behavior is what makes it a perversion, or to use cleaner language degenerate.

in order to be biased, I would need to specify what my prefered method of sexual interaction between 2 persons are.

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Originally Posted by dapperfaffer

in order to be biased, I would need to specify what my prefered method of sexual interaction between 2 persons are.

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Which you just indirectly did...

I feel bad for people who have to fulfill their Desires via a Pixel character and yes it is a plague in this game.
No other MMO has it to Such an extent.

/sign

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Originally Posted by GrizzlyTank

Which you just indirectly did...

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i didn't. you are infering a statement that I never made.

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Originally Posted by Thari

I feel bad for people who have to fulfill their Desires via a Pixel character and yes it is a plague in this game.
No other MMO has it to Such an extent.

/sign

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And I feel bad for the people who failed so badly at making an impact in the world to the point they decided to take upon a mantle of "Moral Guardian" of a community just to feel like they matter.

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Originally Posted by Thari

I feel bad for people who have to fulfill their Desires via a Pixel character and yes it is a plague in this game.
No other MMO has it to Such an extent.

/sign

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So uh, anyone want to tell him about the nightelf dancers?

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Originally Posted by Raoabolic

So uh, anyone want to tell him about the nightelf dancers?

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Better not to. Let their innocence last a little bit longer.

For their sake, I mean. Totally don't want to watch this unfold.. Completely unrelated, but I think my popcorns ready!

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So uh, anyone want to tell him about the nightelf dancers?

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Or roblox...

Now i am getting curious about those nightelves.

And role play, erp or not, is often done within a relationship between parteners.

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Originally Posted by Jaquan

And I feel bad for the people who failed so badly at making an impact in the world to the point they decided to take upon a mantle of "Moral Guardian" of a community just to feel like they matter.

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You do know even couples participate in erp...

It's as if there are more than one way to have fun.

Not all RP venues are ERP themed. Hell, most aren't ERP themed. I checked a bunch of them out because this content drought has me bored as hell, and most of them are just dull dance clubs where people plop their character in a dance hall, type in a looping dance emote, and then afk while some guy DJs for them on twitch. I want to say this is like 70% of the venues I went to. The other like... 25% or so, were different stores/cafes/shops and sometimes they'd offer a fun service like fortune telling or something.Of the dozens and dozens of venues I checked out, only one was lewd -- and, ironically, it was a damn church where people were getting it on in the confessional booths. That was the only one that I went to where I actually saw blatant ERP in an open and public chat, and the only reason I saw it was because I went out of my way to visit in the first place.

Since roleplayers sub (edit: I MEANT SUBSCRIBE, STOP) reliably even during unforeseen year-long content droughts, Square will likely never implement your draconian desires. And that's a good thing since you can easily filter this out of the PF anyway. Next time you open PF looking for "high end raid" content, just click the high end raid button and it'll filter out all the "Other" content that you don't want to see. I'll even provide a picture. Granted, this is at almost 4 am, so the pf's kinda dead but here look at this: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...12/unknown.png

All you have to do is press the raid button, and you won't see RP anymore. Square told the venue people to keep their stuff in the Other tab specifically so it could be filtered like this, and they've done it. How crazy.

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Did I touch the nerve? My reply to you was in just about same generalist tone as yours. If you feel offended by this then I apologize since it wasn't a personal attack. Although I do find it weird you took it as a personal attack.

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Well you Insulted everyone who critisize ERP as insignificant to the world so what do you expect ? So of course i take it Personal because iam a person who obviously critisize ERP

I just say that everyone who needs to j*** off In Front of a Pixel catgirl instead of a Real Person has got a serious Problem and yes it is the same like people who j*** off to anime loli Kids because they cannot do it with real underage Kids so anime lolis fill this gap in a legal way.
I mean i know many ERP communities exclude Lalafells because they look like Kids (which is another Indicator that they humanize the characters and they feel uncomfortable with Lalafells because they probably still have a tiny little bit of dignity) but this does not change the fact what they do and everyone knows it.

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Originally Posted by Zer0

Seriously I go to any main city and it's nothing but spam from people advertising their stupid erp cafe. Can we go back to banning them please? I'm tired of nonstop erp cafe spam.

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How sad can you be? You pay this people's play time? If no why 6ou fell you can tell them how to play and what to do. You can easy just Black List them and never see it afterwards. But no people like you think the game need to be a job and no fun. Just get in and go go go fast fast fast. I say less people like you the better. And for the record I don't take part in ERP I find it stupid. I as well done like all the cross dresing males,not going to ask them to be banned.

Just blacklist and stay away from the starting cities. They don't venture out of there, especially ul'dah.

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Originally Posted by Thari

Well you Insulted everyone who critisize ERP as insignificant to the world so what do you expect ? So of course i take it Personal because iam a person who obviously critisize ERP

I just say that everyone who needs to j*** off In Front of a Pixel catgirl instead of a Real Person has got a serious Problem and yes it is the same like people who j*** off to anime loli Kids because they cannot do it with real underage Kids so anime lolis fill this gap in a legal way.
I mean i know many ERP communities exclude Lalafells because they look like Kids (which is another Indicator that they humanize the characters and they feel uncomfortable with Lalafells because they probably still have a tiny little bit of dignity) but this does not change the fact what they do and everyone knows it.

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Someone got popcorn? The projector is out already so I assume the movie is about to start! :^)

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And it used to be banned hard but it's not anymore. I'm saying it all needs to be banned. Any spam about your stupid cafe or tavern or whatever you want to try to mask your erp crap needs to be banned outright.

KEEP THAT OUT OF MY GAME!!!!

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What part of mmoRPg don't you get? Why don't you take your non-RP out of THEIR game?

Them RP standing in town promoting their cafe would be no different than an actual person in a town promoting a cafe. They just happen to be doing it digitally.

Maybe you need to calm down and take a break from this role playing game. You seem really stressed out that even non-issues are getting you riled up.

Ps. You could always just block them or turn your shout/yell and say chat channels off. Put them in a different tab from your FC, party chat and linkshells and the problem is literally solved. At this point you're complaining for the sake of complaining.

Pps. You can't ban someone for renting a billboard outside of the game. Besides, all it stored is get Square more money. Why do they have to advertise if the players are willing to do it for them.

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Originally Posted by Raoabolic

Someone got popcorn? The projector is out already so I assume the movie is about to start! :^)

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Don't even need to salt it

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Don't even need to salt it

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Sugar on mine please.

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Someone got popcorn? The projector is out already so I assume the movie is about to start! :^)

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I swear to god you are about the only person here who can make me burst out laughing, I fucking love you man lol

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Originally Posted by Zer0

KEEP THAT OUT OF MY GAME!!!!

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OHhhh I wasnt aware the owner of the game is here. I have some game suggesstions bout some QOL stuff:)

Hello everyone!

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Originally Posted by Sarevok_Thordin

Just blacklist and stay away from the starting cities. They don't venture out of there, especially ul'dah.

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you do realize the devs filter players to the major cities right?

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Originally Posted by KatieConnr

OHhhh I wasnt aware the owner of the game is here. I have some game suggesstions bout some QOL stuff:)

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This is the chaotic good energy I'm here for :D
*unravels floor length parchment of suggestions*

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Originally Posted by Saimeren

pps.

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The billboard is copy right infringement as it uses SE licensed and protected property to advertise an event without consent from SE. Yes, they can be banned and they can also be sued.

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Originally Posted by Zer0

And it used to be banned hard but it's not anymore. I'm saying it all needs to be banned. Any spam about your stupid cafe or tavern or whatever you want to try to mask your erp crap needs to be banned outright.

KEEP THAT OUT OF MY GAME!!!!

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I got news for you mate...it has never been banned. I've been around in the RP scene since launch of ARR and that stuff was out there and easy to find from the getgo.

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The billboard is copy right infringement as it uses SE licensed and protected property to advertise an event without consent from SE. Yes, they can be banned and they can also be sued.

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It's a non-commercial advertisement. This is protected under the Creative Commons License that SE has on their own website. https://support.na.square-enix.com/r...5382&tag=authc

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Arm-chair lawyers on twitter/discord/where ever that think they know the legality of that billboard have no idea how actual copyright law works and probably haven't even taken a moment to look at SE's own actual Creative Commons License.

The people who made the billboard could be suspended or banned from the game, however, because they have obviously infringed on the TOS for misrepresenting the game with an SE trademark. But.. being sued? Get a grip, lmao.

The advertisements in cities/hub areas have definitely gotten considerably worse over the past few months. I'd say it's really only peaked to such a level as being literal spam since Endwalker came out. I started in 2.0 and in the entirety of this game's lifespan, at least on the server I'm on, I have never seen people spamming ads for RP venues/clubs in shout chat until now. A couple years ago, they would have probably been ridiculed for it if they tried it, honestly, if not reported for spamming outright. The nature of the ad doesn't make it not spam, there's functionally no difference in RP venue/club spam than there were those annoying gilseller ones. It's still annoying to see chat filled with a two-part paragraph of text from multiple users back-to-back ad nauseum any time you try to go to a city. On my server, I actually kept track of the timestamps and there were approx. 4 two-part ads every 10 minutes in Limsa. Which is enough that you essentially ALWAYS have one of those ads visible in your chat.

The "blacklist" thing doesn't help, because these are random people from other servers most of the time that seem to only be around on certain days, and it will be someone different the next day if not the same day. The "don't use shout chat" argument is honestly moronic because why should anyone have to disable an entire function of the game to counteract people that are being inconsiderate of others? Shout chat is frequently used by people asking for help with something and they get drowned out by the ads. The RP venues appeal to what I'd estimate as less than ~5% of the total population of the game, but the footprint of the ads is so massive that it effects everyone, including the people unfamiliar with RP as a whole with no interest in it.

They're so widespread that I've seen them spammed in nearly every single city at various times as well. Limsa, Gridania, and Ul'dah are obvious, but I have seen them in Foundation/The Pillars, Kugane, Rhalgr's Reach, Idyllshire, Sharlayan, and Radz-at-Han on a regular basis. Anywhere that players may be present they end up appearing eventually.

tl;dr: RP venue ads are the same as FC ad spam or gilseller spam. It's all spam. It's all annoying. Keep it out of shout chat and in the "Other" section of PF instead.

People have become too comfortable being 'lewd' in public, honestly. ERP and erotic venues have always existed, and didn't bother anyone but those who are wound way too tightly.

Problem now is we got people out here with the confidence to talk about their petplay on the OF. C'mon, people please don't ruin the good thing we have by forcing SE's hand. Respect others and be mindful of your interactions with strangers.

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GENUINE insanity

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I've kept this thread open on my browser for like 2 days now waiting for the forums to let me log back in, because apparently it takes a million years for it to recognize I've logged into the game. I just want to say, you have to be the most psychotic person I've seen on these forums. I don't think you're fucking with people either because it's so... well done? Look, the point is, you need help. Like seriously.

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Originally Posted by Zer0

Seriously I go to any main city and it's nothing but spam from people advertising their stupid erp cafe. Can we go back to banning them please? I'm tired of nonstop erp cafe spam.

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Have you considered blocking the spam to make your time in the hub cities more tolerable?

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The owner of the Billboard, the company, provides a commercial service that is paid for, that could potentially get them sued by SE even though thats increadibly unlikely. (and even more unlikely that the billboard company doesn't have a protection waiver stating that all libel, fraud, etc. is the responsibility of the person putting up the ad) That billboard company could then sue the persons who ordered the billboard, and or the billboard company could also potentially sue for libel if the add ends up damaging their reputation as being a company that breaks copyright laws.
SE could also sue the persons who ordered the billboard for breaking the above, as it would be their responsibility to be in compliance, and not the billboard companies. That is to say: The commercial use violation would be solely the use of the advertisement on the billboard, as the billboard would qualify as commercial use. Thats why, if you noticed, they made sure to include the trademark notices.
Now, I don't live in California so I don't know the laws that specifically govern the protection of advertisers and things like billboards.
But clearly, neither do you. So instead of ignoring the fact that a 3rd party was used to advertise an event under the licenses of SE, maybe don't act like your not arm-chair lawyering yourself.
And with that, I'm gunna go ahead and agree with you that its increadibly unlikely that it could occur.

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You should really try SecondLife, it's far more suited to your interests in roleplay than FF could ever be.

That... look more like trolls.

Being so strongly NSFW, that post, wont stay on the forums long, that's for sure.

Im kinda tired of mmos becomming an outlet for sexual degeneracy