Any more clarification on your story? Did it actually happen or are you pulling hypotheticals here? A simple button press of Medica II would have been enough to get you through any 'easy boss' and it's unavoidable AoEs. In your case, assuming you weren't also eating avoidable damage (Dead End Peacekeeper's No Future is a family favourite for people eating multiple AoEs for example) then it's pretty clear to say that that healer was either A) not paying attention or B) just had no grasp of their kit to the extent that they just couldn't react in time. Let's break these down a little.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kleeya
In the case of A) where the healer just wasn't paying attention, do we not think that making healer gameplay a little less tedious would give more healers more reason to actually pay attention rather than zone out on whatever video is playing on their second screen? I'm not going to lie, I find it hard to stay focused on the duty if it's dragging on and I'll routinely start doing something else on the side when I can get away with it (which is now possible in just about everything outside of Savage progression and Ultimate).
As for B) where the healer just didn't have the skills and knowledge to understand what to press in this situation. I've said it a few times now but I'll say it again. Why is our portion of the game being tuned around these sort of people? It doesn't matter what SE do and how brain dead or easy they make things. These sorts of players will still fail. It's common to see healers in 24 man that struggle to barely 6 CPM. That's a single button press every 10 seconds! They will fail no matter what SE do and frankly, in content where these sorts of players will be comfortable at, that's absolutely fine as it rarely causes much of an issue in the grand scheme of things.
TLDR: Adding more engaging mechanics to healers downtime isn't going to make a blind bit of difference to this sort of player because they don't use their kit as it is. Why are they going to suddenly pay any attention to this sort of addition if they can't even understand how powerful abilities like Assize and Earthy Star are?
At the risk of coming across rather sharp. I'm of the simple opinion that your objection is entirely built on the grounds that you expect us to carry you and nothing else. Anything that gets in the way of us spamming cures on you is a bad thing apparently, our enjoyment of the game be damned.
Sad TBH.
DSR was just solo healed
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06-26-2022, 06:08 PMSebazy
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06-26-2022, 11:44 PMLiam_HarperI mean, yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kleeya
Terrible analogy aside, if somehow all competitive soccer teams were able to defend to the point of barely needing a goalkeeper due to good teamwork and how the game worked, then you wouldn't really need a goalkeeper. You wouldn't enforce a goalkeeper in all forms of competitive soccer just because amateur teams who barely started learning the game, with defenders who like to watch netflix on their phones during the match can't defend very well and would feel bad. That would be stupid.
You'd either
a) Change the game in some way so it was harder to defend the goal.
b) Remove the goalkeeper and add another striker.
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06-27-2022, 12:01 AMDeceptusI wonder if those mechanics truly are "a coin flip" or if it can be manipulated by doing self healing (self-shields / Bloodbath / 2nd wind) etc etc Does the game determine who the "Healer" is by healing done or the actual healing role (jobstone).Quote:
Originally Posted by Rolder50
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06-27-2022, 01:16 AMSilver-StriderI mean, there's been several groups that have solo/no healed past ultimates as well. TEA has been solo healed by every healer. DSR getting Solo healed is just another in a long line of examples of how low healing requirements are in the game and that the only reason to have 2 healers at all is to mitigate RNG mechanics and NOT because the healing requirement facilitates the need of them. So, if the healing requirements are too low, why are we getting more tools to heal with when the content doesn't require it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kleeya
Your Soccer analogue is bad because it would only work if the Goalie was required to remain at the goal 24/7 but that isn't true either and there have been plenty of soccer games when the goalie is the one to make the goal themselves. I mean, if there was a Soccer team that was able to never let the opposing team get even 30 yards near their goal, then ofc I'd imagine that people would question why they'd need a goalie at all but usually in that type of scenario, the goalie could literally go out and help their team on the offensive, meaning they're never redundant because they actually can play like any other teammate. Healers don't have that luxury. They don't get to go out on the field and play like their teammates because they're just gimped players. If the team is able to, the healer would be replaced entirely by another DPS for better offensive capabilities and that's just facts. -
06-27-2022, 04:42 AMHellebore_GhrianThat's so stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kleeya
The worst possible analogy. Especially soccer, which is so money-centric that if something is useless, it will be removed before the idea even occurs to you.