What keeps you playing?

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Originally Posted by Mimilu

For me:
-Fear of loosing my small house.
-The now rare change to socialize in my FC or in one of the linkshells I'm in.
-It wastes time.

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Pretty much. I used to enjoy logging in; running dungeons and such because I enjoyed combat system along with playing certain jobs, but those days are long over.

HW classic server anyone? >_>

I need to do the omega savages as blue, I need that title that’s even rarer than ultimates KEK.

Oh and I’ve been in a blm bender recently, class is super fun esp when you get good at hard fights with it.

The only thing that keeps me playing is PvP. Despite all it's flaws, Crystalline Conflict is very good and has genuine class identities.

The only thing that keeps me here, is my smol house that i hold dear, leveling my crafters and gatheres (thru GC provsioning tho), and G-pose.

necromancy

My friends, my miqo'te and I recently started achievement hunting which honestly makes the game make much more sense... I recommend other people start achievement hunting too.

Variety.

Play XiV do roulettes,pvp, alts and stuff til I get bored then go play WoW and World PVP and kill rares in Zereth Mortis, help people get AoTC before Season 4 starts and prog mythic, then go play Lost Arc(Since Tera is shutting down rip) then play an offline/mobile game (SRW, FGO, Genshin Impact, Elden Ring) then by that time my itch to play 14 starts again and I start the whole cycle over again.

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Originally Posted by EnigmaticDodo

Hi folks. Been off the game for a while after a massive bit of burn out. I'm finding it hard to go back. I'm just curious... What keeps you playing the game? Maybe I can find a new reason to enjoy. Thanks!

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What keeps me playing? Well, for one, it's better than WoW. For a frame of reference of where I came from, here's a video I recorded about two months or so before I left.
https://youtu.be/YqoJOrWqCtU
It's 9 minutes long. I posted the video because nobody is going to believe me with what I am going to tell them: I was playing one of the most popular and renown MMORPGs in gaming history, on a "highly" populated server. In that video I posted, I chain-travelled to EVERY hot spot, mid-day. Ghost towns. I even went over to the Horde side, to find it empty. This is on WoW, a "highly" populated server, I need remind you.

I'm about five months into FFXIV. The community is active, and growing. It does have problems and could use some work, yes, but just about every MMO game does. This game isn't too difficult, and I like that. In addition to the gameplay dying, activision/blizzard started making very alarming business decisions -- from hiring the Leukophobic Misandrist, madeleine roux (Whom they did not comment on her hateful behavior), to actively attacking the player base. Speaking of the playerbase, you know what's worse than not hearing from the devs? How about having the game hijacked from the consumers, openly and unapologetically?
https://media.discordapp.net/attachm...enshot_926.png

And again

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...enshot_927.png

I like the players. I like the atmosphere, the classes, the game doesn't have real world socio/political issues in it, I love the pets (especially the fat cat), the game just overall is a breath of fresh air compared to what I played before. I mean, for God's sake I see people arrange orchestras on a regular basis.

In short, what keeps me playing, is that it's good. To me anyway. And if you're a fellow WoW refugee, I have just one question for you....

https://i.imgflip.com/6h4yfs.jpg



Edit: Also, the Fat Cat is a factor on why I keep playing. It makes me smile, and brings me to a more positive attitude. It's just so adorable.

I keep playing it because I derive joy out of it. There are things it can improve upon - if there weren't I'd be scared for the game because that means it's only downhill from there. But I feel as though what it does, it does well. I enjoy the story, the characters, glamming, and raiding. I recently cleared P2S (Not well, but I did it!) and my group is about to mount farm tomorrow. I'm working on leveling my alt, clearing my map of quests on my main, and just having fun.

A combination of the following factors:

- There's no real viable competitors on the market at the moment that are to my liking.
- I like my character's design.
- The dreaded 'sunk-cost fallacy'.
- I'm lucky enough to own a mansion in-game.
- I still harbour some hope that my issues with the game will be addressed at least to some extent.
- Friends and associates.
- The new PvP mode is pretty fun.

I think online multiplayer is a toxic wasteland and organizing gaming time with friends feels like trying to move a mountain. This game, for the most part, seems to be the exception. I get a lot of runs that are pretty chill with the occasional friendly banter and I like that. Sure it's not perfect; there are people who insist on being obnoxious or others who just gotta drag the mood down but it feels a lot more muted compared to other games I've tried.

Don't get me wrong, I'll drop my sub and play something else if I get bored. Only so many times I can run the same content before I need a break. I've got a huge backlog I need to tackle anyway.

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Originally Posted by Vav2021

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Former WoW players try not to stifle criticism of XIV by bringing up WoW every 5 seconds challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)

Raid, and random friends going, "Hey, wanna go do a run of X?"

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Originally Posted by Nizzi

Former WoW players try not to stifle criticism of XIV by bringing up WoW every 5 seconds challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)

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Don't folks have a right to compare a product to another? Take a man that's been drinking water in drops, and give him a water fountain, he's bound to tell you the water fountain is better than drinking drops of water. I don't know what your gripe is with someone referencing wow, and saying how much better XIV is to the former Genre Titan, but I think that the Drop Drinkers that used to play WoW have merit describing how much better the Fountain of XIV is.

Edit: Keep in mind, yes, XIV has flaws that need to be worked on, but it's still comparatively good.

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Originally Posted by Vav2021

and rightly so. Take a man that's been drinking water in drops, and give him a water fountain, he's bound to tell you the water fountain is better than drinking drops of water. I don't know what your gripe is with someone referencing wow, and saying how much better XIV is to the former Genre Titan, but I think that the Drop Drinkers that used to play WoW have merit describing how much better the Fountain of XIV is.

Edit: Keep in mind, yes, XIV has flaws, but it's still comparatively good.

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All of the posts I've seen from you have had you bringing up WoW unprompted in threads criticizing bad aspects of this game. I don't care about "Torghast" or Blizzard or WoW, I don't play them, I never will and they're absolutely irrelevant to me and myriad number of people on these forums who do not play WoW. Please stop trying to use a game that you used to play and clearly don't like anymore as a cudgel to stifle criticisms people have towards this game. I'm happy that you were able to quit something that was clearly toxic for you, perhaps it's time to let it stop living rent free in your mind to the point where you're constantly bringing it up in the Final Fantasy XIV forums to white knight for SE.

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Originally Posted by Nizzi

All of the posts I've seen from you have had you bringing up WoW unprompted in threads criticizing bad aspects of this game. I don't care about "Torghast" or Blizzard or WoW, I don't play them, I never will and they're absolutely irrelevant to me and myriad number of people on these forums who do not play WoW. Please stop trying to use a game that you used to play and clearly don't like anymore as a cudgel to stifle criticisms people have towards this game. I'm happy that you were able to quit something that was clearly toxic for you, perhaps it's time to let it stop living rent free in your mind to the point where you're constantly bringing it up in the Final Fantasy XIV forums to white knight for SE.

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Relax.


I am not stifling anything. As I said before, XIV has problems that need to be addressed, but to discredit the experiences of quality (or lack thereof) in order to point out that it's objectively better seems like an attempt to muffle anything good one has to say about the current game in question. I'm sorry if me bringing it up causes problems for you, but an observation in corrupt business practices, retroactive in-game censorship of content, and inadvisable merges/business partnerships is relevant to past, present, and future quality products (Especially since Sony is contemplating on buying Square Enix).

I'll say what I want, and just like the thread suggests, I'll talk about why I play this game, even if it means comparing the quality of a product to a previous one. As a customer, I have the right to do so. You're free to utilize that nifty ignore option.

It's good to take breaks from the game from time to time. I just recently it feels from a 3 week break after getting my battle classes to 90. I came back to finish up my DoH! First time I've maxed all classes which was a good goal to set. I also since Stormblood have streamed the game on and off of random things I do from weeklies and dailies to farming and raiding whatever. I usually give myself short term goals and long term ones as well. A good short term is doing Wonderous Tails and doing handful of it not undersized. I do that because I like to either relive a dungeon or check out who else is playing. Long term goal is to get the all the extreme mounts every expansion before next. I've been doing that since ARR really but have been streaming it on and off since Stormblood. Took me 396 runs in Stormblood going by totems, 581 runs in Shadowbringer and currently I'm sadly at 298 Totems(99+99+100) combined for Endwalker which is 248 runs. This long term goal is about a 2 year investment but I normally play almost everyday for about 4 to 5 hours at a time since I came back.

TLDR: Short term goals,long term goals, breaks and streaming.

As said in a previous post in this thread, it's the MSQ that kept/keeps my attention.

However, there are various other aspects of the game that I think are great in comparison to a previous MMO I played (which I won't bother naming as don't want a discussion about that).

FFXIV isn't perfect, and am not saying it is. However I moved to FFXIV when the aforementioned game's anti-consumer, mobile-gaming-cash-grab mentality overwhelmed everything else. When you play a MMO that produces nothing more than sleazy gamble-boxes (sleazy because they outright refuse to comment on the odds of winning anything of value, which seem appallingly low) and £300 'bundles' at the expense of new content (one new episode, worth about 30 - 45 minutes of play time, every five months ) it's time to move on.

After playing a game that became what that one has, FFXIV has been a breath of fresh air.

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Originally Posted by Kolsykol

Savage, EX, PvP, Aglaia, mount farm, glam.

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One class in wow and Gw2 has more variation with their talents and gear tier sets than any job in FF14, the Zones in wow, gw2 and lost ark feel like places, and FF14 feels like zones. If you are on Rp servers, there are plenty of people in WoW zones, and you can see the people RP throughout the world. Same with Guild Wars 2. Choice in MMO stories happens all the time, and even the Sylvanus questline offered more choice than anything in FF14. The Elpis storyline did not need to happen, and Metion was a pointless villain.

If you have to tell your players to leave because the company can't provide compelling long-term content, it means the company's capabilities are poor. The team has pushed further away from an MMO into a linear narrative RPG that focuses more on the single-player experience, which is incredibly disappointing and alienates MMO players who want the MMO experience. People have to wait ten years for basic revamps and 2+ yrs for basic customisation.

Content is geared to the worst players in the game with the homogenisation of healers and tanks. Furthermore, the content has been simplified massively under the guise of jank when it was basic positional, debuffs, resistance and environmental to the difference between damage types.

At this point :

- a few frontlines a day, always enjoyed them and RW (now dead), even more so now;
- savage reclear when it doesn't take an hour to find tanks;
- maybe I'll get back to HoH solo on sage, maybe.

To put it blankly, games that I've sunk a lot of time into are hard for me to pull away from. I also really love my character and dont wanna just abandon him until the game actually dies and him dying along with it

For me, it's multiple things, but since I already did mostly everything in the game with the exception of savage/ultimate high end raids (just not my focus/interest) as of late it's just been recently the following:

- The Story:
-- Playing around with alts and doing the Story all over again
-- New Game +, revisiting past experiences with Job Storylines, side-stories etc.

- Hanging out with friends and getting into fun shenanigans together, especially on certain raids.

- The Game Music, sometimes just relaxing in areas listening to the music

- Crafting/Gathering for fun - for me its a great way to relax after work.

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Originally Posted by Vav2021

I even went over to the Horde side, to find it empty. This is on WoW, a "highly" populated server, I need remind you.

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That's one thing I appreciate about XIV; we have plenty of hub locations to hang out in. I'm in NA and play on a JP DC, so I'm between 11 and 13 hours behind the majority of the player base there. Yes, it's dead during my weekday primetime, but when I log on in the morning before going to work I see people all over the place. It's even busier on Saturday and Sunday; and I'm on one of the lower population servers. If I hop over to Limsa on Tonberry, that place is jumping. I can only imagine what it's like on a place like Balmung.

PVP and MSQ

Everything else sucks mostly because FFXIV it's a ""solo"" game experience.

I also like to write weird messages in random FCs log book.

My house
Other than that nothing

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Originally Posted by EnigmaticDodo

Hi folks. Been off the game for a while after a massive bit of burn out. I'm finding it hard to go back. I'm just curious... What keeps you playing the game? Maybe I can find a new reason to enjoy. Thanks!

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other people
thats all, if i didnt have anyone to hang out with id quit and cancel my sub
when they see how little SE puts back into the game compared to their sub funding and realize its the short end of the stick theyll quit and we can all play something else

Boredom offline and lack of new mmos.

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Originally Posted by EnigmaticDodo

Hi folks. Been off the game for a while after a massive bit of burn out. I'm finding it hard to go back. I'm just curious... What keeps you playing the game? Maybe I can find a new reason to enjoy. Thanks!

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Even if SE tries to make ARR and the following patch to HW attractive, it remains the most boring part.
You don't even have a third of the HL content for your character's gameplay.

And you don't have everything that makes MSQ cool at your level.

So at your level, you're still in the "barrage" of "anti-newbie" content despite what SE does to improve it.

It's still a pain to play at your level.

I personally find that the content from Ishgard onwards is improving. Although many swear by Heavensward, I found it relatively boring. It unfortunately becomes interesting in my opinion that from Stormblood by its improvement of the MSQ which goes largely better to Shadowbringer which gradually begins to avoid more unnecessary back and forth. And a real feeling of travel.

It's not for nothing that the "generous" free trial of FFXIV goes until the end of Heavensward. It probably hopes that those who "survive" until level 60 to hang on to their MMO.


For my part, it's the glamour, the housing, and the raid alliance.

- Housing more than anything else to keep my subscription going non stop for a maximum of 30 days.
- And the glamour in second, I am the kind of person who is able to farm during days or weeks for that, the relics for example or to make all my tomestones of the week in spam raid 24 because I find that fun, more than twenty run on the week thus.
Which makes me laugh when a guy creates a topic to complain that after 3 to 5 runs, he doesn't have his raid 24's gear for the week.

Occasionally the Ex, for the mount or the weapon skin that interests me.

Hard to say considering I took short breaks (around 40 days) and long ones (nearly a whole year) but if anything, my friends keep me grounded a bit.
Maybe my short term goals of leveling the last 3 jobs to 90, though I hardly stand playing it with the same excitement I had 2-3 years ago.

Doesn't matter, I tried to break away from FF14 to play something else or a different mmo even, but I always end up back here maybe when the game finally dies I'll stop.

The friends I have in game. If I didn't have them I would probably quit until the next major patch.

Meeting ingame contacts is number 1

Progress on my 3 mains number 2 (or is that one main and my 2 main alts?)

Earning gil to spend on fun things is 3

Treasuremaps and hunttrains 4

Housing and decorating 5

Listening to audiobooks while gathering / crafting 6

I find it hard to consider House's and RP active content. I mean to each there own. But say you advertise this game to general MMo public i would find that pretty ass. Especially for the "rpg" genre. I want to find amazing loot. this game doesnt have that. Sure its shiny. But the vertical progression climb only goes so far until you quit. and that doesnt deem a game successful to have the largest amount of people playing a game. On paper sure, "we have the most subs and people online" but after you hit that highest gear, or hell even along the way, you have no where else to go besides to do boring content.

This game is just my giant dress-up and social simulator that's why I keep playing, I have met so many wonderful people while playing this game it truly is an adventure where you find the most unexpected allies and friends.

My crippling Fantasia addiction.

More seriously - because I'm not done playing. I want to get all my combat jobs to 90, I want the Triple Triad mount, I want the skyward score mount, I want to cap all my beast tribes and shared FATEs, I want to get all the relics, I want to finish all the custom deliveries...

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Originally Posted by HalinFluffyBuns

This game is just my giant dress-up and social simulator that's why I keep playing, I have met so many wonderful people while playing this game it truly is an adventure where you find the most unexpected allies and friends.

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I really love your avatar and signature. :)

I just legit enjoy the game.
I enjoy raising all the combat classes, exploring most of the side content.

And Frankly, games recently just haven't been great. So its almost the only game worth playing for me atm.

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Originally Posted by Anienai

I really love your avatar and signature. :)

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Thank you♥ I really love your FemRoe she is very pretty

i pick projects to keep me busy ones i enjoy doing and that keeps me playing sorry no to pvp too many crazy people in that for me.

Not much atm. I have a couple of friends who I enjoy running things with. Aglaia was excellent. Decorating is fun, but I've reached the limit with my apartment/FC room so I'm stuck in that area. Sometimes I take screenshots. Sometimes I just vibe in the cool little world they've built. But I'll be real; the drip feed of content is kind of a bummer, and the vast majority of content doesn't require much thought or engagement. At this point I'm hoping those new styles of dungeons they talked about are enjoyable. And I want to try out cross-DC play, to meet people from other datacenters. And I'm interested in island sanctuary. But right now, in this moment, there's not a lot keeping me in this game. I'm jealous of people who stay for the story.