Let's Talk About SAMURAI

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Originally Posted by Kiao-Ken

Damn, look at you. Out here attempting to make a difference with your virtue signaling. I bet you also rant about the little things that you find so offensive and take it to the extreme on twitter *iT's RaCiSM, REEEEEEEEE*. Listen little boy, I will not change the usage of word, nor will I cater to your mentality.

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If you're going to complain about a video game... next time try to first of all use word with their actual definitions.... second of all try not to blame video game traits you don't like on an entire culture being "brainwashed". Blaming an entire culture cause you can't win at your precious video game is in fact pretty racist no matter how much you want to try and downplay it as me being overly sensitive.

I can't say its shocking you can't grasp this simple concept considering you didn't even know what indoctrinated meant.

Edit: Still waiting for the logic on how an ethic group can be somehow brainwashed over their own culture and history...

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Originally Posted by Tribezer0

If you're going to complain about a video game... next time try to first of all use word with their actual definitions.... second of all try not to blame video game traits you don't like on an entire culture being "brainwashed". Blaming an entire culture cause you can't win at your precious video game is in fact pretty racist no matter how much you want to try and downplay it as me being overly sensitive.

I can't say its shocking you can't grasp this simple concept considering you didn't even know what indoctrinated meant.

Edit: Still waiting for the logic on how an ethic group can be somehow brainwashed over their own culture and history...

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(indoctrinated might be the wrong choice of word, no ill intended but such a word has weight/impact)

Edit: I will not be making this post about you. It's not about you, nor will it be about you. I understand that you're offended on behalf of the Japanese and their culture in regard's to Samurai. That's fine, be mad all you want. But, to remind you, this post is about highlighting the kit of the class/job Samurai. Do refrain from taking it to the extreme based on how you interpret sentences/words. Also, if you're in a foul mood, you're interpretation could lead you to ignore other important information such as "indoctrinated might be the wrong choice of word", especially if you haven't had your drug yet (coffee/sugar intake).

Oh, feel free to respond however you see fit. I will read it, and if you continue with this "I'm offended on behalf of the Japanese culture" I won't respond. Thus letting you have the last "word" so to speak. But, if you respond in regards to the intend of this post (Samurai's kit), then I will respond.

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Originally Posted by Kiao-Ken

(indoctrinated might be the wrong choice of word, no ill intended but such a word has weight/impact)

Edit: I will not be making this post about you. It's not about you, nor will it be about you. I understand that you're offended on behalf of the Japanese and their culture in regard's to Samurai. That's fine, be mad all you want. But, to remind you, this post is about highlighting the kit of the class/job Samurai. Do refrain from taking it to the extreme based on how you interpret sentences/words. Also, if you're in a foul mood, you're interpretation could lead you to ignore other important information such as "indoctrinated might be the wrong choice of word", especially if you haven't had your drug yet (coffee/sugar intake).

Oh, feel free to respond however you see fit. I will read it, and if you continue with this "I'm offended on behalf of the Japanese culture" I won't respond. Thus letting you have the last "word" so to speak. But, if you respond in regards to the intend of this post (Samurai's kit), then I will respond.

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You say something "might be the wrong choice of word" when you're in the same ballpark as the correct definition or a word might mean something more extreme than you mean. But you sir, weren't even in the same ballpark. Again, still inviting you to explain why or how a Japanese based company might somehow be brainwashed about their countries own history. Unless you are somehow implying some massive conspiracy regarding Samurais.

Worst of all is that you make such a nonsensical comment just so you can QQ about a video game...

Stay in school kids...

It's funny I thought that SAM was pretty balanced until I got to talking on another post about GNB and realized they have (by default without junction) a better Nebula, more sustain, and more dps and cc skills. Woof.

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Originally Posted by Tobias_Azuryon

It's funny I thought that SAM was pretty balanced until I got to talking on another post about GNB and realized they have (by default without junction) a better Nebula, more sustain, and more dps and cc skills. Woof.

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Exactly, Samurai has such an insane kit (on par or just below Red Mage (from what I've read and seen, Red Mage is even more brokenly overpowered than Samurai)) that it makes other classes such as Munk (intentional misspelling (this would probably get taken as racism to Buddhist's "culture")), Gunbreaaker, Dancer, Black Mage seem like a hinderance to play or have as a team. Note, Gunbreaker paired with Dancer's buff might be doable, haven't tested though.

Why do i have to use so much brain to fight SAM, when i can just fight other class without much thinking?
Have you ever tried DRK LB, just to get stunned forever after that with just 1 hp? lol

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Originally Posted by Arxel_Zen

Why do i have to use so much brain to fight SAM, when i can just fight other class without much thinking?
Have you ever tried DRK LB, just to get stunned forever after that with just 1 hp? lol

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Oh yeah, LMAO. I always forget about Dark Knight due to how weak they are. But I do agree with you.

I'm genuinely curious what rank people here are. I have never found SAM strong despite playing up to plat. MNK and NIN are both far more threatening melees and WAR, WHM and RDM outclass everyone else by far more.

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Originally Posted by Raistlin

SAM need to be addressed ASAP is just ridiculous how a single class can turn tables with 1 button, it should be treated as a bug and fixed next minor patch.

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WHM with their 5 man stun every 30 seconds? WAR literally completely removing guard for 15 seconds? SGE rendering everyone that isn't a melee useless? RDM causing an unavoidable 12k HP differential? And these are all with at least triple the frequency of Zantetsuken.

I honestly had no idea people hated samurai so much until I started reading the pvp forums. I can go multiple games without even seeing one in crystal

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Originally Posted by Rynhardt

I honestly had no idea people hated samurai so much until I started reading the pvp forums. I can go multiple games without even seeing one in crystal

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That's because they're not op.

All I see in Crystal is Samurais. I've yet to go a game where one isn't in it. It's All SAM and RDM and then a DRG.

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Originally Posted by Espri

I'm genuinely curious what rank people here are. I have never found SAM strong despite playing up to plat. MNK and NIN are both far more threatening melees and WAR, WHM and RDM outclass everyone else by far more.

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I'm not going to further comment on you questioning other player's rank & skill while only being Plat yourself, but that you're suggesting that MNK is anywhere close to either NIN or SAM, let alone better, really says it all. While the job definitely isn't as bad as some people say it is, the kill pressure it has without LB is simply laughable compared to SAM, NIN and DRG.

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Originally Posted by Espri

SGE rendering everyone that isn't a melee useless?

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As a SGE main I'm curious to hear more about this. I have to dash into Melee to do my burst and while I won't "die" it's a stalemate usually if I get 1v1'd unless I kardia myself.

How does it render ranged useless? This isn't meant as an attack I'm just curious if I might be missing something because I'm still of the opinion every class, inclusing SGE needs at least one cc skill.

I would say and just based in my experience, DRG and NIN are definetly stronger than SAM as DPS.

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Originally Posted by Kini199

I would say and just based in my experience, DRG and NIN are definetly stronger than SAM as DPS.

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I think this is just a strategy from DRG players so they can boost their stats. I legit won one of my matches because they focused on only me the SAM while DRG was busy deleting people. I got 1 kill and 12 assists but no deaths and our DRG got 8 kills. I think people are just slapping SAM without thinking and dying to the LB simply because they stack like chairs so they can get folded like chairs. Zantetsuken has only a 5y radius from target, just spread out people, it works every time.

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Originally Posted by Tobias_Azuryon

As a SGE main I'm curious to hear more about this. I have to dash into Melee to do my burst and while I won't "die" it's a stalemate usually if I get 1v1'd unless I kardia myself.

How does it render ranged useless? This isn't meant as an attack I'm just curious if I might be missing something because I'm still of the opinion every class, inclusing SGE needs at least one cc skill.

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Have you used your limit break?