Patch 6.05 Notes

The only new addition to the Gold Saucer is a dancing pole. Meh.

And ofc the tome caster chest piece is again SS/DH lol

Idk after all those crafter nerfs i expected stuff to be easier, but welp, guess imma not craft much anymore...

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

The only new addition to the Gold Saucer is a dancing pole. Meh.

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Handy for all the ERP venues, I guess.

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Originally Posted by Shibi

They say

"New master recipes have been added."

Has book IX been locked behind the MSQ this time? It wasn't in Rahlgrs Reach like book 8 was.

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Idk I saw it from the White Crafter Scrip vendor like 8 and under are at Mor Dhonna

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Originally Posted by DerpyWhiskers

Idk I saw it from the White Crafter Scrip vendor like 8 and under are at Mor Dhonna

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Yeah, that's why I wonder where 9 is. It's a blank page in my crafting log now, which is new, but I am not sure where the master books are.

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Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami

Savage shouldn’t be the only place where healing is somewhat heavy. Compare shb leveling dungeons to endwalker leveling dungeons and it’s night and day. They said we would be needing to heal more period. We haven’t seen that at all yet so it’s a blatant lie. If it’s purely savage that isn’t us healing more, that’s us healing less than in ShB.

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Bizarre that people are trying to excuse the lack of it in extremes. That is optional content that is meant to at least provide a stepping stone up in difficulty. What will the excuse be when savage inherits the same issue?

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Originally Posted by Cithaerias_pyropina

More capes and robes. Lovely.

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Looks like they got so giddy that they were able to make capes flow a bit that they're compensating for years' worth of them. :p I'd like more variety in the tome sets, tbh. The new tome gear isn't bad looking, although it's nothing particularly special either.

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

Hooray for no longer having to spam Raiju gap closers on NIN...though I'm not sure how much of a DPS boost they got in practice.

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So far according to Balance, Ninja was nerfed and made weaker in the grand scheme.

It's not weaker, but it's not much stronger either, it only received a potency buff of like 100 per minute, basically nothing.

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Originally Posted by Shibi

Yeah, that's why I wonder where 9 is. It's a blank page in my crafting log now, which is new, but I am not sure where the master books are.

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Yeah I just double checked, they're even at the other vendors like in Gridania. They're under Crafter's Scrip, Master Recipes etc etc, White. 1200 Whites each

Disappointed in the new glam and tome gear. The tome looks nice don't get me wrong it's just it was need to be a dungeon drop gear. All in all the big fear to me going on is the cut to gear sets we get.

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Originally Posted by DerpyWhiskers

Yeah I just double checked, they're even at the other vendors like in Gridania. They're under Crafter's Scrip, Master Recipes etc etc, White. 1200 Whites each

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Thank you, thank you :) I will look there!

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Originally Posted by Vonleo

A lot of people were expecting nerfs to Reaper/Sage and Warriors. Reaper was barely touched and everything else was left alone.

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And why would Sage need nerfs?

Lotta balance andies in this thread that also conveniently don't touch Savage at all.
Really puts it into perspective doesn't it?

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Originally Posted by SamsaraTrickstar

Disappointed in the new glam and tome gear. The tome looks nice don't get me wrong it's just it was need to be a dungeon drop gear. All in all the big fear to me going on is the cut to gear sets we get.

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How do you judge that this specific gear was meant to be dungeon gear?

Anyway, I like the new sets. The mages have a good "armoured battlemage" vibe to them.

Also the crafted gear is a good recolour of the PVP Republican sets. The old version had very disappointing dye effects on the metal parts but they've fixed it.

That Dragoon gear is sweet! Unfortunately the Warrior's armor makes his axe look huge.

Forgive my ignorance, but what in the heck is are "andies"?

They don't like nerfing things on savage day. They never have unless they gave us fair warning. Wait for the .1 patch for nerfs.

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Originally Posted by Xyrn86

Forgive my ignorance, but what in the heck is are "andies"?

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It's a derogatory term for people who talk a lot on an issue but don't really know what is it they're talking about. Someone who's not the best authority on a topic yet have a ton to say and claim their opinions as fact. Something like that.

Good to see my main went relatively unchanged minus the slight shield nerf. I’d say stop crying and focusing on meta. Just learn to play your job better (most won’t) and then the magical “p word” the same criers hate won’t bother you.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

How do you judge that this specific gear was meant to be dungeon gear?

Anyway, I like the new sets. The mages have a good "armoured battlemage" vibe to them.

Also the crafted gear is a good recolour of the PVP Republican sets. The old version had very disappointing dye effects on the metal parts but they've fixed it.

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The tome,correct me if I am wrong,was used on npc's and times normally something for the players only.
As for the crafted it's just the same trans of reuse.so less new sets.
Hope the don't cut more to sell them as nft .

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Originally Posted by Xuled

Good to see my main went relatively unchanged minus the slight shield nerf. I’d say stop crying and focusing on meta. Just learn to play your job better (most won’t) and then the magical “p word” the same criers hate won’t bother you.

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P-P-Pa... Pancakes!

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Originally Posted by SamsaraTrickstar

The tome,correct me if I am wrong,was used on npc's and times normally something for the players only.

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Tome gear has definitely been used for NPCs – certainly throughout Shadowbringers, though I'm not sure about earlier. Deepshadow gear was used for the knights that you fight in the Grand Cosmos and the Shadowkeeper as seen in the role quest continuation, and Fandaniel wears the Cryptlurker healer robe. The Crystarium gear wasn't used quite so immediately, but is used by someone in the Void quests and then for Y'shtola's cold-weather gear, and I think someone in the reaper quests as well.

I think there have been other things as well. I feel like I've seen NPCs in the Ryumyaku gear but can't remember where. Zadnor maybe?

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Originally Posted by Abomination713

What a disappointment this "balance patch" turned out to be. PLD didn't get a potency increase on anything, DRK didn't get any help with it's mitigation, WAR didn't get nerfed in it's self sustain, RPR didn't get touched at all except for a joke of a nerf to a heal potency from 100 to 50 when it should have been nerfed into the ground.

What the fuck is balance team doing? The most obvious changes were completely ignored. Now we have to wait till 6.1 to see any meaningful changes? What a fucking joke.

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The x.05 patches have not outright nerfed anything in awhile. The RPR nerf to its heal is honestly the first one. Generally we've seen nothing but CD time/MP cost reduction/Potency increase buffs in the x.05 patches, and then if any major reworks are needed, they come in the x.10 patches.

Go back through the patch cycles and take a look.

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Originally Posted by ArkenaeuxBelmont

The x.05 patches have not outright nerfed anything in awhile. The RPR nerf to its heal is honestly the first one. Generally we've seen nothing but CD time/MP cost reduction/Potency increase buffs in the x.05 patches, and then if any major reworks are needed, they come in the x.10 patches.

Go back through the patch cycles and take a look.

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Even so then, where tf is Whm’s mp buff that it so desperately needs? Doesn’t change the fact they’re still ignoring healer and tank issues lmao. They didn’t even touch the tanks period.

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Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami

Even so then, where tf is Whm’s mp buff that it so desperately needs? Doesn’t change the fact they’re still ignoring healer and tank issues lmao. They didn’t even touch the tanks period.

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I won't argue there. I'm shocked they didn't address the WHM MP economy issue. In terms of tank buffs, DRK's damage is fine but their self sustain in dungeons is the issue, and that's a bigger problem that requires straight up ability reworks to fix, so that doesn't shock me DRK isn't on that list. PLD not being there shocks me more, being the easiest to tweak since otherwise they are in a good spot in everything except damage. They should've had a few small potency tweaks.

The larger, glaring problems like DRK will need a x.10 cycle patch to be addressed. Never gotten a big rework like that in a x.05 post release patch.

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Originally Posted by Katie_Kitty

anyone wanna complain about anything besides job balance? that minion is pretty sus if you ask me

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The new gear looks like DRG AF ripoffs.

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Originally Posted by ArkenaeuxBelmont

The x.05 patches have not outright nerfed anything in awhile. The RPR nerf to its heal is honestly the first one. Generally we've seen nothing but CD time/MP cost reduction/Potency increase buffs in the x.05 patches, and then if any major reworks are needed, they come in the x.10 patches.

Go back through the patch cycles and take a look.

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Potency changes are what is needed most. PLD needs an increase. I'm not asking to be first place. I'm fine with 4th place, but PLD is so far behind in damage that the best PLD players are ALMOST as strong as the most average run of the mill WAR's running around. It's a complete joke!

https://www.fflogs.com/zone/statistics/42/#class=Tanks

RPR is so overpowered right now that it's completely unfair. They are top damage and have party buffs. They should not be near the top. Certainly not beating SAM, MNK, or BLM.

https://www.fflogs.com/zone/statistics/42/#

Simple potency changes are all that's needed for most of these issues. It's not rocket science.

https://c.tenor.com/8MgJJXIQhBAAAAAC/pyra-drink.gif

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Originally Posted by Abomination713

Potency changes are what is needed most. PLD needs an increase. I'm not asking to be first place. I'm fine with 4th place, but PLD is so far behind in damage that the best PLD players are ALMOST as strong as the most average run of the mill WAR's running around. It's a complete joke!
https://www.fflogs.com/zone/statistics/42/#class=Tanks
RPR is so overpowered right now that it's completely unfair. They are top damage and have party buffs. They should not be near the top. Certainly not beating SAM, MNK, or BLM.
https://www.fflogs.com/zone/statistics/42/#
Simple potency changes are all that's needed for most of these issues. It's not rocket science.

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I played as PLD and cleared Savage last expansion but I never understand the mentality of PLD players seeking more damage done
We are typical MMPROG tank where most of are arsenals are support and damage mitigation and output damage should not be our primary concern.

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Originally Posted by Divinemights

I played as PLD and cleared Savage last expansion but I never understand the mentality of PLD players seeking more damage done
We are typical MMPROG tank where most of are arsenals are support and damage mitigation and output damage should not be our primary concern.

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Damage is the primary concern because most of the higher tier endgame content, dps is mainly what matters. Either clearing as fast as possible or getting past enrage, which having more damage helps with.

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Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami

Damage is the primary concern because most of the higher tier endgame content, dps is mainly what matters. Either clearing as fast as possible or getting past enrage, which having more damage helps with.

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I was there and I know how it works and matter of 1% more damage output from PLD in general does not impact that.
PLD merely doing 1% less in damage compares to other 3 tanks.
If your group is unable to pass the dps check, it is issue with your 4 dps more than a PLD
A lot of PLD's damage mitigations are strongest as among all 4 and there is where our primary strength is

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Originally Posted by Abomination713

Potency changes are what is needed most. PLD needs an increase. I'm not asking to be first place. I'm fine with 4th place, but PLD is so far behind in damage that the best PLD players are ALMOST as strong as the most average run of the mill WAR's running around. It's a complete joke!

https://www.fflogs.com/zone/statistics/42/#class=Tanks

RPR is so overpowered right now that it's completely unfair. They are top damage and have party buffs. They should not be near the top. Certainly not beating SAM, MNK, or BLM.

https://www.fflogs.com/zone/statistics/42/#

Simple potency changes are all that's needed for most of these issues. It's not rocket science.

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I hear you, and agree with PLD needing the increase. That baffles me that wasn't part of this patch. RPR getting toned down though will come in x.10. This is the first they've nerfed anything in a x.05 post release patch, hence my point on checking out the patch cycles.

The decreases generally come once they have savage logs to look at. This first patch is for really large glaring issues that the devs feel need addressing right this second. To them, the ones we got were the top priority going into the first bit of savage content.

Havin tried on the tome sets, I changed my mind on them a little. The upgraded versions dye really nice, I think I'll get some use out of them glam-wise after all.

The savage gear tho, they dye beautifully across the board *u*

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Originally Posted by Vonleo

A lot of people were expecting nerfs to Reaper/Sage and Warriors. Reaper was barely touched and everything else was left alone.

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Why would they nerf Sage? Currently in high-end content they're 4th in Healing Per Second. Scholar beats Sage by 1%.

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Originally Posted by Connor

Yeah maybe it’s just me but the job changes are honestly hilarious. They do absolutely nothing to address balance in the game whatsoever lol

Can’t wait for week 1 DNC/RPR healer parties. Do the devs just genuinely not care that an entire role in their game is defunct? Like literally functionless lol.

Also Summoners are literally going to be banned from going into raids by most statics. I mean, it brings literally nothing a Red Mage doesn’t and has way less dps. SMN has ‘mobility’ I guess but lol at the ‘mobility’ argument.

Also maybe I’m wrong but the fact there are 0 healer changes whatsoever besides Fey Union being longer range means White Mage and Astrologian are out and Scholar + Sage is the new meta pair. Astrologian has cards so it can at least argue ‘but muh rDPS’ and then the static healers have to fight to the death, loser takes AST. White Mage may as well be invisible at this point. What exactly is it supposed to offer? Dps? That’s Sage. Raid buffs? Nope, that’s Astrologian. Defensive buffs? Scholar. But it’s ok because Litany of the Bell will clearly make White Mage a top pick for Savage (sarcasm)

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Astrologians currently have the highest Healing Per Second, and the lowest DPS of the healers.

White Mage is 2nd in HPS.

Scholar, then Sage.

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Originally Posted by Abomination713

What a disappointment this "balance patch" turned out to be. PLD didn't get a potency increase on anything, DRK didn't get any help with it's mitigation, WAR didn't get nerfed in it's self sustain, RPR didn't get touched at all except for a joke of a nerf to a heal potency from 100 to 50 when it should have been nerfed into the ground.

What the fuck is balance team doing? The most obvious changes were completely ignored. Now we have to wait till 6.1 to see any meaningful changes? What a fucking joke.

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Savage just released today. If there is going to be any significant balancing, it will happen in 6.1.

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Originally Posted by Rokke

The savage gear tho, they dye beautifully across the board *u*

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I did not expect the snow white dye to have such a drastic change. I tried on the savage fending chest piece and it turns black on the blue parts.

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Originally Posted by Abomination713

Potency changes are what is needed most. PLD needs an increase. I'm not asking to be first place. I'm fine with 4th place, but PLD is so far behind in damage that the best PLD players are ALMOST as strong as the most average run of the mill WAR's running around. It's a complete joke!

https://www.fflogs.com/zone/statistics/42/#class=Tanks

RPR is so overpowered right now that it's completely unfair. They are top damage and have party buffs. They should not be near the top. Certainly not beating SAM, MNK, or BLM.

https://www.fflogs.com/zone/statistics/42/#

Simple potency changes are all that's needed for most of these issues. It's not rocket science.

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If Reaper is overpowered, so is Monk and Red Mage.

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Originally Posted by Jettinson

I did not expect the snow white dye to have such a drastic change. I tried on the savage fending chest piece and it turns black on the blue parts.

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It turns black with any dye I think. I love it so much more than the usual weird muted colors we tend to get, you can pick pretty much any color dye and it looks good ^^

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Originally Posted by Krotoan

Not really digging the "random person #9875 at the renaissance faire" glam wear.

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