What if we were given another tiny race

Another vote for Ivalice Moogles.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/.../fb/Moogle.jpg

Honestly, I like the idea of Ivalice Moogles but given how the team delivered Viera and Hrothgar (in addition to lack of action and general poor implementation) I'm just REALLY worried it'd either be reskinned Lala with ears OR they'd tie the hair to the ears/face and again get a kneecapped race with a lack of love and care.

Call me pessimistic but I don't have any hope for it.

I would go the opposite of the so-kawaii-you-wanna-punch-them lalafell and go somewhere more into the realm of Kobolds from D&D

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Originally Posted by MicahZerrshia

I would go the opposite of the so-kawaii-you-wanna-punch-them lalafell and go somewhere more into the realm of Kobolds from D&D

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We could go with Trolls, small but ugly as a contrast to Lalafell (which small and cute, also could also have Gnome or Dwarf aesthetics, esp considering their First counterparts)

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Originally Posted by Morningstar1337

We could go with Trolls, small but ugly as a contrast to Lalafell (which small and cute, also could also have Gnome or Dwarf aesthetics, esp considering their First counterparts)

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In d&d trolls are around 9' tall so they really wouldn't work as a small race, but at 2'-3' d&d kobolds work wonderfully. And they are bestial which would also make the ppl who are looking for more non-beauty options happy.

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Originally Posted by Soge01

Who do you think they would be?

Edit: Just to let anybody know new to this thread to not do if wanting to post:

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Burmecians. They would make a great smaller cousin to the Hrothgar.

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Originally Posted by MicahZerrshia

I would go the opposite of the so-kawaii-you-wanna-punch-them lalafell and go somewhere more into the realm of Kobolds from D&D

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What about kobolds from ffxiv? I'd play the heck out of one.

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Originally Posted by MicahZerrshia

In d&d trolls are around 9' tall so they really wouldn't work as a small race, but at 2'-3' d&d kobolds work wonderfully. And they are bestial which would also make the ppl who are looking for more non-beauty options happy.

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I was speaking in general,not just in regard to DnD, that said I did overlook that that Trolls in Dragon Quest are also rather large. Still think they could work with smaller body frames,but then again depening on what facial features the devs decided to use if they go that route they might be as limited as Viera/Hrothgar

Please don't introduce more footballs into the game. The only thing lalas are good for currently are sacrificial rituals while raiding ultimates for an easy clear or being punted like a football to Narnia.

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Originally Posted by RoyalDecree

Please don't introduce more footballs into the game. The only thing lalas are good for currently are sacrificial rituals while raiding ultimates for an easy clear or being punted like a football to Narnia.

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This is such a tired joke.

Only if its a moogle other wise no thank you

Not a joke lol my first uwu clear I cleared with my static was when the lalafell in our party died and was sacrificed to Ultima.

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Originally Posted by RoyalDecree

Not a joke lol my first uwu clear I cleared with my static was when the lalafell in our party died and was sacrificed to Ultima.

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Good for you, dude.

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Originally Posted by DamianFatale

Burmecians. They would make a great smaller cousin to the Hrothgar.

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Burmecians look neat! Reminds me of the Qiqirn; would love to get a more instrumental Bard like job class and play as a Burmecian! ^^

Would totally be on board with a squirrel race. Big fluffy tail that doesn't just dangle. Cute chubby face. Could have the 2 tribes be red and grey squirrels since they're always at war IRL.

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Originally Posted by MartaDemireux

Would totally be on board with a squirrel race. Big fluffy tail that doesn't just dangle. Cute chubby face. Could have the 2 tribes be red and grey squirrels since they're always at war IRL.

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This! I NEED this in my life!!!! 8D

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...f66546a2bb.jpg

I keep seeing Burmecians brought up, but weren't they pretty tall?

Ivalice Moogles, Let's GOoooooo!

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Originally Posted by Shadotterdan

I keep seeing Burmecians brought up, but weren't they pretty tall?

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They were tall...in a game with exceptionally stylized characters whose proportions were somewhere between a chibi and realism so it's really hard to say how tall they would be in FFXIV.

Personally I imagine them to be taller than miqos but shorter than viera. About fem highlander height.

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Originally Posted by Penthea

They were tall...in a game with exceptionally stylized characters whose proportions were somewhere between a chibi and realism so it's really hard to say how tall they would be in FFXIV.

Personally I imagine them to be taller than miqos but shorter than viera. About fem highlander height.

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Burmecians average pretty tall. Freya is 6'2".

(And Zidane Tribal is as tall as Cloud Strife and slightly shorter than Squall Leonhart ...not that this stopped SE from making him little in Dissidia for some reason.)

I actually really like Nu Mou now that we know they kinda exist?

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Originally Posted by HeyMcFly

I'd want them to be an actual beast race. Lalafell are just idk--- if they had cat-like noses, fur, tails with fur tufts at the end & rounded, mouse like ears- or other options like little antlers, and deer tails or just something that's the opposite of how a lalafell looks. Lalafells just look so incomplete to me. (as do Hyur's & elezen but that's another conversation.)

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I saw this doing my coffee browsing and it made me wonder...

How would people feel about a new tribe of Lalafell that was more Tarutaru like? Same model but with short fur, little claws and tufted ears. It's one of the ideas SE came up with doing the Lala concept art and I liked it.

https://www.creativeuncut.com/galler...afell-male.jpg

Even though I was actually a little disappointed with the Hrothgar (way too similar to Roegadyn in body, and another cat-race?), I fully agree the next race should probably be something smaller.

Personally, I would love something akin to the Moogles in FF12. Or maybe something sort of like the "Aurin" from WildStar (the two characters in the middle):

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pr...yw6lGjYP5Snn-w

you know what? I am just good on races for atleast one expansion. Can we just focus on fixing clipping on the existing races or adding more to the original ones?

Didn't the devs say they were done adding races?

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Originally Posted by ItMe

Didn't the devs say they were done adding races?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cKXuet4SyI&t=404s
Just watch this part of a interview asking about more customizations and you will see there is still a little possibility of launching a new race :D

Moogles!!

https://64.media.tumblr.com/0dae95df...maxro1_500.jpg

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Originally Posted by Angelov-Mercy

Moogles!!

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YES MOOGLES, but for lore questions, i'd prefer they add the ivalice moogles from fft and ffxii, even with little modificantions and another name like "Ivagle" or "Moolice" or anything else (edit: like they did with Ronzo, that has turned into hrothgar), just to separate then from the normal moogles and make then playable.

https://images2.fanpop.com/image/pho...6-2560-365.jpg

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Originally Posted by Reaperking386

you know what? I am just good on races for atleast one expansion. Can we just focus on fixing clipping on the existing races or adding more to the original ones?

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Given how bizarrely difficult they've made it to implement new races my vote would be (for now) this...

1) Open up customization options for Viera and Hrothgar. More hairstyles, more hats.

2) Male Viera, Female Hrothgar

3) New subraces added as additional clans to existing races. For example...
Lalafell - Mountainfolk (furred Lalafell with tufted ears evolved for colder climates)
Viera - Feol (run shorter, have shorter ears, pale hair colors)
Au' ra - Gria (males run shorter. Have wings they can unfurl and use in place of flying mount)
Mi'qote - Mithra (already exist in lore as the ancestors of modern Miqo'te. Could be introduced as a clan with more cat-like features that never crossed into Eorzea from the Miqo'te homeland)
Hyur - Garlean (Taller with gem-like "third eyes". Warrior of Light can use magic)
Elezen - Ishgardian (could have muscle sliders and some features from both Wildwood and Duskwight)
Roegadyn - Galka (have more bear-like features. Could also have large tails)
Hrothgar - ??? (IDK, man. Something more lupine?)

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Originally Posted by Ayuhra

Elezen - Ishgardian (could have muscle sliders and some features from both Wildwood and Duskwight)

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Just the muscle slider they will never implement, because it's more easier to they just add a complete new race than add any kind of slider. So basically, no butt slider, muscles slider, or anything else that change the sharp of a race

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Originally Posted by Ayuhra

Hyur - Garlean (Taller with gem-like "third eyes". Warrior of Light can use magic)

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Isn't there already an option for that third "eye," though I think it's not limited to hyur?

Either way, I really don't want sub-races. If WoW has taught me anything, more customization of existing races is better than segregating them into separate but mostly similar races that may not get the same customization, especially when you add lore into the picture. It just becomes messy.

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Originally Posted by linayar

Isn't there already an option for that third "eye," though I think it's not limited to hyur?

Either way, I really don't want sub-races. If WoW has taught me anything, more customization of existing races is better than segregating them into separate but mostly similar races that may not get the same customization, especially when you add lore into the picture. It just becomes messy.

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Some races have jewels, yes. Garleans would be able to choose different kinds and a color for them (like jewelry on Keepers). Garleans would also be taller than Highlanders or Midlanders.

As for the subraces, I recall Yoshi-P saying that additional clans were easier than new races? It seems like the way the game is set up adding new options to old races is fairly difficult so it would have to be in the form of a new set of options around a new clan.

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Originally Posted by Gameronkeyboard

Just the muscle slider they will never implement, because it's more easier to they just add a complete new race than add any kind of slider. So basically, no butt slider, muscles slider, or anything else that change the sharp of a race

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Muscle sliders just change texture, not the silhouette. They already exist as customization options for hyur and roegadyn

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Originally Posted by Ayuhra

As for the subraces, I recall Yoshi-P saying that additional clans were easier than new races? It seems like the way the game is set up adding new options to old races is fairly difficult so it would have to be in the form of a new set of options around a new clan.

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Yeah, which means more division of features. It may be harder, but if they're adding more to character creation, I'd rather it be in the form of a revamp so that they can add more customization. I doubt they would ever add a new clan anyway.

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Originally Posted by linayar

Yeah, which means more division of features. It may be harder, but if they're adding more to character creation, I'd rather it be in the form of a revamp so that they can add more customization. I doubt they would ever add a new clan anyway.

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They're more likely to add clans than revamp the creator.

Although, yes, I would certainly love a revamp to the creator.

Burmecians for XIV.

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Originally Posted by DamianFatale

Burmecians for XIV.

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Burmecians aren't a tiny race. They're as tall as the Viera.

...But, yes, if they let us play Burmecians I would ABSOLUTELY be a Burmecian.

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Originally Posted by Ayuhra

Burmecians aren't a tiny race. They're as tall as the Viera.

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To be fair, they don't need to be tall for XIV. If we use Prince Puck as an example he was shorter than Vivi (maybe much shorter? I forget ), so if he is used as base of height for all Burmecians then you could have a tiny race along with Lalafells.