Information on 1.21 Next week?

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Originally Posted by Duuude007

...and so does this one.

Tell me Cichy, how is your sergeant gear coming along?

Are you ready with seals for 1.21 chocobo armor?

Just 1 Luminary so far?

Have you managed a Moogle speed kill yet?

Have you explored more than half of the atherites & camps in the world?

Have you killed over 50,000 monsters, or over 30 of the 46+ nm's?

Have you completed even a quarter of the faction challenges? How about 1000 regional leves? Perhaps local?

You've barely hit the tip of the iceberg, if you cant answer more than 1 or 2 of these.

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1) There is a difference between content and stuff to keep people busy just for the sake of keeping people busy.

2) There are a lot of people out there already who have already done most of the things you have listed.

Thats kind of my point, lol. To complain about lack of content despite having never done these, seemed farsical to me.

That being said, I agree that the completionist list is nearly attainable at this stage, even if none has done it yet.

I'm just stating the fact and like others have said it's not what the average gamer cares about.
Any way you cut it or slice it, XIV has barely a drop of content and we need a lake.

patch will always come when its finished. i pretty sure they been working their arse off to do all these. sure it got delayed, and people got bored. but it can;t be help. predicting the patch day on the timeline is just a guide. its like weather forecasting, how accurate can you predict a date few months before the actual patch day? They aren;t robots or fortune tellers or anything that can predict accurately. when things happen, they update us via letter or forum posts. I for one glad they communicate with us every now and then. The timeline outlined more likely could never be exact, but it be close to it as they always try. what's the use if they release it now when it's not totally finished/fixed or with serious bugs? Just wait abit longer, am sure news will come and patch won;t be that long more. =p

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Originally Posted by Cichy

I'm just stating the fact and like others have said it's not what the average gamer cares about.
Any way you cut it or slice it, XIV has barely a drop of content and we need a lake.

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This. Everyone says, keep yourself occupied by doing speed runs or clearing other achievements ect.

Well heres the thing, the content is EXACTLY the same, the only difference is the approach on how to clear it.

To say that clearing mog within x amount of time makes the content any different to clearing mog at regular pace, is just ignorance. The fight is still the same, it's just done in an organized fashion.

Please don't confuse content with achievements. They are not the same.

It's the same convoluted approach with Primal drop rate's timesink.

SE seems to think that lower drop rates = more difficulty.

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Originally Posted by Dreadnought

i havent seen pretty much any info on 1.21 other than player inns. the small tidbit of GC lore does not in any way count as info in my opinion and we havent seen much else of anything.

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All jobs have been revealed. All new skills...photos of job gear...lots of posts on the forums official posts already. We all know pretty much everything coming in this next patch. 2 dungeons, disciples of the hand fix, jobs...uh what more info do you need. Patch notes don't need to go out b4 release. It's not like anyone REALLY READS them...every time there's a new patch out and people go in game and ask a million questions anyways.

So if you are going to really READ patch notes maybe they'll release them early. But as it is...I haven't seen that to be the case.

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Originally Posted by Agoven

All jobs have been revealed. All new skills...photos of job gear...lots of posts on the forums official posts already. We all know pretty much everything coming in this next patch. 2 dungeons, disciples of the hand fix, jobs...uh what more info do you need. Patch notes don't need to go out b4 release. It's not like anyone REALLY READS them...every time there's a new patch out and people go in game and ask a million questions anyways.

So if you are going to really READ patch notes maybe they'll release them early. But as it is...I haven't seen that to be the case.

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What do we know about the Cutter's Cry?
What do we know about The Aurum Vale?
What do we know about Job Quests?
What do we know about Hamlet? (Was Scheduled for 1.21 but now 1.22)
What do we know about Job Attritubes and the greater role they will be playing?
What do we know about the new NM's?
Photos/Previews of Skill's and Armor has been minimal at best.

In my opinion, we have never been left in the dark more closer to release date (Patch was scheduled to already been released).

Especially considering the size of this big one.

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Originally Posted by Avraym

Especially considering the size of this big one.

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I'm preparing myself for a patch 1.21a on top fo that -_-;

This thread has turned into a White Knight cavalcade.

How utterly surprising...

Um...it's a game...why do you need to know everything?...should SE give you an entire strategy guide before every release?

You can't just take it as it comes? Like when it comes out you'll have 2 months to mess with it before the next patch...so why get all tizzy?

You'll probably start whining of boredom 2 weeks after it's release anyways...cause you finished it all.

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Originally Posted by Agoven

Um...it's a game...why do you need to know everything?...should SE give you an entire strategy guide before every release?

You can't just take it as it comes? Like when it comes out you'll have 2 months to mess with it before the next patch...so why get all tizzy?

You'll probably start whining of boredom 2 weeks after it's release anyways...cause you finished it all.

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Because bunch of people wouldnt have paid for this month if they knew the patch would be delayed so far. At this point it's false advertising and cheating people out of their money. On top of that people rage quit which does not improve the game image at all.

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Originally Posted by Cichy

Because bunch of people wouldnt have paid for this month if they knew the patch would be delayed so far. At this point it's false advertising and cheating people out of their money. On top of that people rage quit which does not improve the game image at all.

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Um...they announced over a month ago patch was gonna be like a couple weeks late. It's not false advertising anywhere...again they never promised anything...the road map is just suggestive and they always say things may change.

PEOPLE PAY TO PLAY not PAY for a PATCH.

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Originally Posted by Agoven

Um...it's a game...why do you need to know everything?...should SE give you an entire strategy guide before every release?

You can't just take it as it comes? Like when it comes out you'll have 2 months to mess with it before the next patch...so why get all tizzy?

You'll probably start whining of boredom 2 weeks after it's release anyways...cause you finished it all.

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Finishing content within 2 weeks says a lot about the difficulty.

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Originally Posted by Agoven

Um...they announced over a month ago patch was gonna be like a couple weeks late. It's not false advertising anywhere...again they never promised anything...the road map is just suggestive and they always say things may change.

PEOPLE PAY TO PLAY not PAY for a PATCH.

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True words. Patch delay, is fine.

However, the delay in information we've had is deplorable.

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Originally Posted by Avraym

Finishing content within 2 weeks says a lot about the difficulty.

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It's not even a matter of difficulty.

It's this mentality of rather then enjoying the content that they want everything now now now and then rush to get it all then complain they are bored.

If you take the time to actually enjoy the game you might find it actually enjoyable. Rather then speed and rush through it and then claim it was boring and all but a grind grind grind.

It's like when everyone screamed for content. They added some new side quests with lengthy text. The first comments were from many was OMG wall of text not reading and clicking through.

CONTENT should be replaced with I just want gear gear gear gear new gear...omg I want this before everyone else...omg I got it all...bored...this game is lame...oh story this game doesn't have any...

That's the typical response from most players these days. They didn't actually read the content...they just went after the items then they get them all then they bored. They don't take time to really enjoy the game.

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Originally Posted by Agoven

It's not even a matter of difficulty.

It's this mentality of rather then enjoying the content that they want everything now now now and then rush to get it all then complain they are bored.

If you take the time to actually enjoy the game you might find it actually enjoyable. Rather then speed and rush through it and then claim it was boring and all but a grind grind grind.

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It's been one and a half years now. GTFO about speedrush.

At this point loads of people who aren't new to the game ARE playing for patches because there is nothing left to do that is fun. The lack of information is ridiculous and people trying to justify it are absurd.

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Originally Posted by Agoven

It's not even a matter of difficulty.

It's this mentality of rather then enjoying the content that they want everything now now now and then rush to get it all then complain they are bored.

If you take the time to actually enjoy the game you might find it actually enjoyable. Rather then speed and rush through it and then claim it was boring and all but a grind grind grind.

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If something is a long grind, its gonna take longer than two weeks.

I agree that if you rush to finish something, don't complain.

But i think even been able to clear something in two weeks in "rush mode", still says little about the content if its a major patch like this one. I mean, 1.21 is almost a mini expansion, this stuff should take longer than two weeks, wether we take our time or rush through.

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Originally Posted by Vackashken

At this point loads of people who aren't new to the game ARE playing for patches because there is nothing left to do that is fun. The lack of information is ridiculous and people trying to justify it are absurd.

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Thats crazy talk! What about all the lore we've had!

Not trying to justify anything...

Anyways...this should be one of the last major system change patches. They have to get through all the nuts and bolts before they can really get down to content. 1.22 and 1.23 should start having more content. The roadmap doesn't even list patches before 2.0. I'm sure from 1.23 till 2.0 it'll all be story content.

Remember we got Final Fantasy 25th Anniversary and Tokyo Game Show which I suspect SE will use those two events to push out major things for FFXIV ushering in the coming of 2.0.

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Originally Posted by Duuude007

...and so does this one.

Tell me Cichy, how is your sergeant gear coming along?

Are you ready with seals for 1.21 chocobo armor?

Just 1 Luminary so far?

Have you managed a Moogle speed kill yet?

Have you explored more than half of the atherites & camps in the world?

Have you killed over 50,000 monsters, or over 30 of the 46+ nm's?

Have you completed even a quarter of the faction challenges? How about 1000 regional leves? Perhaps local?

You've barely hit the tip of the iceberg, if you cant answer more than 1 or 2 of these.

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The big issue with your list is that majority of them aren't fun to do.

However, it's a good idea to save up them seals for chocobo barding.

I'm wondering when we will be getting the good news. Would be good to hear some type of word this week since I was eagerly looking forward to the end of February to arrive. I guess I have more time to go 7/7 on Mog weapons and netflix crafting because everything else isn't my cup of tea to accomplish.

1.21 please come asap! My excitement levels extreemly high :P

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Originally Posted by Avraym

Thats crazy talk! What about all the lore we've had!

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I apologize... the year and a half wait sometimes eats at my soul and I say crazy things!

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Originally Posted by Agoven

Not trying to justify anything...

Anyways...this should be one of the last major system change patches. They have to get through all the nuts and bolts before they can really get down to content. 1.22 and 1.23 should start having more content. The roadmap doesn't even list patches before 2.0. I'm sure from 1.23 till 2.0 it'll all be story content.

Remember we got Final Fantasy 25th Anniversary and Tokyo Game Show which I suspect SE will use those two events to push out major things for FFXIV ushering in the coming of 2.0.

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The fact of the matter is they handled this all wrong. People need to feel hype for this patch. They could have spent all this time releasing tidbits of teasers. They could have released a job video a week, 30 seconds long hyping said job. Or to stretch it out show a WS a week from various jobs (so as not to spoil them all). They could have released a bit of eye candy every so often to keep people excited. Their marketing is terrible. If this patch is so enormousness and grand then there is no reason -- whatsoever -- for them to have held their cards so close to their chest for this amount of time.

The reality is people are tired - which is 100 percent understandable regardless of how many droves of White Knights try to joust that fact down. They handled it wrong. As aforementioned if they have so much to bring to the table this time a slow build up of it, through various forms of information that is more tangible, is how it should have been handled. FFS, even a company that doesn't do MMOs gets it...

When ACM was delayed (Aliens: Colonial Marines) they said sorry guys, but check this out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=cMhpFpJSwgA

Now what did it do when people saw that video? They said, damn this sucks (that it was delayed) but got hyped up for the video and it started a lot of positive discussions cause they had something universally acceptable to jaw over. Eye candy.

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Originally Posted by Vackashken

I apologize... the year and a half wait sometimes eats at my soul and I say crazy things!



The fact of the matter is they handled this all wrong. People need to feel hype for this patch. They could have spent all this time releasing tidbits of teasers. They could have released a job video a week, 30 seconds long hyping said job. Or to stretch it out show a WS a week from various jobs (so as not to spoil them all). They could have released a bit of eye candy every so often to keep people excited. Their marketing is terrible. If this patch is so enormousness and grand then there is no reason whatsoever - for them to have held their cards so close to their chest for this amount of time.

The reality is people are tired - which is 100 percent understandable regardless of how many droves of White Knights try to joust that fact down. They handled it wrong. As aforementioned if they have so much to bring to the table this time a slow build up of it, through various forms of information that is more tangible, is how it should have been handled. FFS, even a company that doesn't do MMOs gets it...

When ACM was delayed (Aliens: Colonial Marines) they said sorry guys, but check this out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=cMhpFpJSwgA

No what it did when people say that video? They said, damn this sucks (that it was delayed) but got hyped up for teh video and it started a lot of positive discussions cause they had something universally acceptable to jaw over. Eye candy.

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Well said. I'd genuinely like to see someone even try and rebuttle that.

Somewhere. A white knight just died.

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I'm curious...because it's a little tricky what SE has done. Server mergers on March 1st...

Let's say scenario goes like this...We know there are lots of people potentially waiting for this patch to come back. If a lot of people pay and become active again, how will SE handle merging 2 servers if suddenly this patch spurs a lot of returns? They might not have enough room to merge two servers.

I would suspect this patch would need to be released by the 28th so SE could sort out the server merger mess. If it's after the server mergers that this patch is released and peoples return to locked out servers and they can't join their friends that will be quite the interesting messy scenario.

CORRECTION: I guess I should fix my comment since server mergers aren't actually happening on the 1st of March. That whole server merging thing is a mess of confusion. So anyways this post is sorta moot sorry.

Fun is a buzzword.

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Originally Posted by Agoven

I'm curious...because it's a little tricky what SE has done. Server mergers on March 1st...

Let's say scenario goes like this...We know there are lots of people potentially waiting for this patch to come back. If a lot of people pay and become active again, how will SE handle merging 2 servers if suddenly this patch spurs a lot of returns? They might not have enough room to merge two servers.

I would suspect this patch would need to be released by the 28th so SE could sort out the server merger mess. If it's after the server mergers that this patch is released and peoples return to locked out servers and they can't join their friends that will be quite the interesting messy scenario.

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I would say they made room for returners in their calculations in relation to server merge size.

Everyone know's people who left were either waiting for 1.21 (Jobs) or 2.0 release.

To punish returning players would have to be a giant screw up. Although, their payment interface setup does just that.

Well...if you want rebuttals that's pretty easy. I'm not even trying to white knighting anything...we're all anxious for new stuff...

Quite frankly anything anyone posts...SE could post a years worth of pictures, videos, spoilers...

And someone will find something to complain about it. There's also a large majority that don't post to these forums...that don't read the lodestone. There's a number that want to see things as they come to fruition in the game....

We should also know SE generally doesn't like spoilers...and you gotta have some respect that they've been as communicative as they have been. It's a new thing for SE...

On the official threads and Yoshida's posting he frequently types walls of text on the Japanese forums outlining many things to come.

Spoilers? Honestly, I can't be bothered to dignify that with a response...

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Originally Posted by Vackashken

Spoilers? Honestly, I can't be bothered to dignify that with a response...

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Would you really kill the excitement of seeing it yourself the first time in-game or would you rather it be spoiled in a video?

Anyways...believe it or not patch notes take quite a lot of time to prepare and "COPY" the stuff they post official requires many eyeballs of approval...work and editing etc before posting. And quite frankly if everything say..has to get cleared by Yoshida...or another head...and he's with 250ish staff members in meetings throughout the day and checking on progress etc...I think the priority goes to that and not these forums.

At the end of the day we are all whiny brats anyways...myself included. Patience we lack...complaints we could write a whole book about...it's probably been heard a hundred times over...but we like to hear ourselves speak to get attention cause it makes us feel important...and even more so when someone official acknowledges us.

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Originally Posted by Agoven

Would you really kill the excitement of seeing it yourself the first time in-game or would you rather it be spoiled in a video?

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If I saw a 30 second clever video of a mnk would it ruin it for me? No, it would make me excited and want to play more.

Seriously? Spoil it for? Come on...

You're being a contrarian for the sake of it now.

Actually I think it would make you whine and say you want more...and then more and then more...

Cause what they give you will never be enough to satiate your desires.

Did somebody say content ?

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Originally Posted by Duuude007

...and so does this one.
Tell me Cichy, how is your sergeant gear coming along?
Are you ready with seals for 1.21 chocobo armor?
Just 1 Luminary so far?
Have you managed a Moogle speed kill yet?
Have you explored more than half of the atherites & camps in the world?
Have you killed over 50,000 monsters, or over 30 of the 46+ nm's?
Have you completed even a quarter of the faction challenges? How about 1000 regional leves? Perhaps local?
You've barely hit the tip of the iceberg, if you cant answer more than 1 or 2 of these.

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That’s not enough you say? Well how about THIS!?

Still not enough? Okay, okay, try this one on for size:

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Originally Posted by ObeiKinstar

(It is a strange thing, but I see the events of this game tie in with events in real life, and I'm not talking about just seasonal events, I'm talking about the seventh umbral era. A cataclysmic event that will change the world forever. The secret goblin society, the Illuminati, The Sultanant, The Empire...maybe I'm just crazy)

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Okay, I'm going to work with you on this one because I have had a lot of fun ranting about conspiracy theories represented via FFXIV in my linkshell.

First Rhetorical Question: Where do you think SE gets the material for all of the Final Fantasy series?

Moving on: The Seventh Umbral Era and the Arrival of 2.0 Is due to arrive late December 2012. It would not surprise me if SE decides to release it Dec.21 2012 on the winter Solstice which just so happens to be the proposed Mayan "End of the world" :

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. Scenarios suggested for the end of the world include the arrival of the next solar maximum, or Earth's collision with a black hole, passing asteroid or a planet called "Nibiru".

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Sound Familiar? "Meteor"? anyone?

Next, let's discuss the Era's themselves. A GM quote can be found here indicating that each Era has lasted roughly 1500 years..

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Originally Posted by Sasunaich

Thank you for your questions.

What happened in the earlier Umbral Eras?
The further back in history the era is, the less clues we have that can tell us as to what exactly happened. Those who live in Eorzea now can only speculate and construct a picture of the past based on myths and lore.
But because the still rather recent 6th Umbral Era (although it was already about 1,500 years ago) was such a highly significant event in history, there are still many records on the topic that allow us to reconstruct what happened.

Theologists and Historians have studied many sources and from them concluded what struck in the first through sixth Umbral eras.
1. The Umbral Era of Wind. This was the end of the divine's era and simultaneously the beginning of men's era.
2. The Umbral Era of Lightning.
3. The Umbral Era of Fire.
4. The Umbral Era of Earth.
5. The Umbral Era of Ice.
6. The Umbral Era of Water. Severe flooding caused the submersion and damage of many parts of Eorzea.

Because all six Umbral eras are based on the six elements, the people have believed that there will be no more. But since the discovery of the 7th Verse of Mezaya's prophesy, they are instead beginning to believe in an impending 7th Umbral Era.

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Considering we are at the end of the 6th Era, multipled by 2 (umbral and astral era of each element) we arrive at = 6 x 2 = 12 x 1500 = 18,000 years being the "beginning" of Eorzean Men as we know it. This just so happens to coincide with the Last Glacial Maximum when humanity first began to flourish with the retreat of the glaciares and the prime soil they left behind.

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Originally Posted by Wise Guy

But, the Last Glacial Maximum was between 26,000 and 20,400 years ago not 18,000 as you have Indicated.

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Correct! But the first era (18,000 years ago) was wind, so If we go back 2 more eras (2x astral+umbral = 4 x 1500 years = 6,000 years) to the beginning of the preceding Ice Era (assuming they repeat) we obtain 24,000 years ago, which corresponds perfectly with the Last Glacial Maximum.

Furthermore, the current Eorzian Umbral Era of Water corresponds perfectly with what we may call the beginning of the Great Flood of Noah's Ark (roughly 600 C.E)

All this talking of Elements moves me to my next point: the Wu Xing an ancient chinese mnemonic device related to the elements and their interactions as well as Yin an Yang corresponding to Astral and Umbral affinities. Let it be known the origin of Yin Yang had to do with which side of a hill recieved light from the sun or was shaded at sunrise yet these reversed at sunset...

And then, of course, there are The Twelve:

Nald'thal is the brother of Oschon.
Oschon is the brother of Nald'thal, Menphina's lover, and the teacher of Halone.
Menphina is the sister of Azeyma, Oschon's lover, and the daughter of Althyk.
Azeyma is the sister of Menphina, Thaliak's lover, the daughter of Althyk, and the mother of Llymlaen and Nophica.
Thaliak is the teacher of Byregot, Azeyma's lover, and the father of Llymlaen and Nophica.
Rhalgr is the apprentice of Nymeia and the father of Byregot and Halone.
Althyk is the brother of Nymeia, the father of Menphina and Azeyma, and the grandfather of Llymlaen and Nophica.
Nymeia is the sister of Althyk and Rhalgr's master.
Llymlaen is the sister of Nophica, is the daughter of Azeyma and Thaliak, and is the grandaughter of Althyk.
Nophica is the sister of Llymlaen, is the daughter of Azeyma and Thaliak, is the grandaughter of Athlyk, and is rivals with Halone.
Byregot is the brother of Halone, the son of Rhalgr, and the student of Thaliak.
Halone is the sister of Byregot, the daughter of Rhalgr, the student of Oschon, and the rival of Nophica.

Twelve not unlike the calendar used in ancient Chinese Astrology. Now, If you know just a little about the Four Pillars of Destiny, you would realize that every year, month, day and hour are related to and have an affinity with an astrological animal and yin yang element. Not unlike what is revealed to us by the first three chapters of the Dusty Tomes in the Gridanian Conjurer's Guild:

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Chapter 1 - The Suns:

By the unit of a sole Sun we mean that period which lasts for the duration of four cycles of the six elemental hours─those of Ice, Water, Wind, Lightning, Fire, and Earth. And so is the Sun twenty hours and four, and so shall it ever be.
The life of a single Moon spans four cycles of eight Suns, and is thus the sum of thirty and two. The eight deriveth from the elements six, Ice, Water, Wind, Lightning, Fire, and Earth, and the polarities two, Astral and Umbral.

Chapter II - The Moons:

The life of a single Moon spans four cycles of eight Suns, and is thus the sum of thirty and two. The eight deriveth from the elements six, Ice, Water, Wind, Lightning, Fire, and Earth, and the polarities two, Astral and Umbral.

Chapter III - The Years:

The Year is made when the Moons go round the two Astral and Umbral poles, fluctuating between the six elements, and that in turn. In this, the Year can be said to be the length of twelve Moons.

The first and second Moons of the Year are the first Astral and first Umbral, and together they share an affinity with Ice. On their watch, all is frozen, and breath of life sloweth to near silence beneath.

The second Astral and second Umbral Moons come third and fourth in turn, and they are the Water of the melting Ice, and with their flowing slaketh the thirst of life again.

Fifth and sixth are the third Astral and third Umbral Moons, and the Wind bloweth over the Water, carrying its heavenly boons near and far.

The fourth pairing of Astral and Umbral Moons come seven and eight, when the heavens rageth with the furies of Lightning, and sendeth them below with godly terror to test the faith of men.

The ninth and tenth Moons are the fifth Astral and Umbral, as the Lightning turns to Fire, and it charreth growing life with the colors of its flames, bleeding blade and leaf with brilliant hues of crimson and scarlet.

Year's end cometh in the eleventh and twelfth Moons, the sixth Astral and sixth Umbral, in which Earth consumes all, for out of the ground we are taken for the dust we are, and to the dust we shall return.

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Hmmm... Very interesting.

Last but not least I think I'll discuss the Names of Final Fantasy Characters, specifically the Primals:

Carbuncle: This creature was alleged to be seen in Latin America. Legends say the Carbuncle has some sort of jewel on its head.

Quetzalcoatl: a Mesoamerican deity whose name comes from the Nahuatl language and has the meaning of "feathered serpent". Again, related to the Maya.

Ifrit: are supernatural creatures in Arabic and Islamic cultures. They are in a class of infernal Jinn, spirits below the level of angels, noted for their strength and cunning. An ifrit is an enormous winged creature of fire, either male or female, who lives underground and frequents ruins.

Leviathan: is a sea monster referred to in the Bible. In Demonology, the Leviathan is one of the seven princes of Hell and its gatekeeper (see Hellmouth).

Odin: is a major god in Norse mythology and the ruler of Asgard (!sounds like Ishgard!)

Ramuh (rama): is considered to be the seventh avatar of Vishnu in Hinduism, and a king of Ayodhya in ancient Indian Puranas.

Shivah: is a major Hindu deity, and is the destroyer god or transformer among the Trimurti, the Hindu Trinity of the primary aspects of the divine. God Shiva is a yogi who has notice of everything that happens in the world and is the main aspect of life. Yet one with great power, he lives a life of a sage at Mount Kailash.

Garudah: is a large mythical bird or bird-like creature that appears in both Hindu and Buddhist mythology.

Pheonix: is a mythical sacred firebird that can be found in the mythologies of the Arabian, Persians, Greeks, Romans, Egyptians, Chinese and (according to Sanchuniathon) Phoenicians.

Titan: In Greek mythology, the Titans were a race of powerful deities, descendants of Gaia and Uranus, that ruled during the legendary Golden Age.

Fenrir: n Norse mythology, Fenrir is a monstrous wolf.

Bahamut: is a vast fish that supports the earth in Arabian mythology. In some sources, Bahamut is described as having a head resembling a hippopotamus or elephant

Kujata: A bull generally thought to be resting on the head of Bahamut in Arabian mythology.

Lakshmi: is the Hindu goddess of wealth, prosperity (both material and spiritual), light, wisdom, fortune, fertility, generosity and courage; and the embodiment of beauty, grace and charm.

and the list goes on and on and on...

And you are surprised that SE made reference to the goblin Illuminati or the Knights Templar?

In short, Final Fantasy is an Allegory constructed of symbols drawn from Humanities rich past including but not limited to the ancient civilizations and religions of the Mesoamerican, Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Greek, Roman, Arabian, Islamic, and Norse peoples.

This could serve as a great educational experience to some...For more information on FFXIV Lore I will kindly refer you to Azury Ariella's Lore Compendium.

Happy hunting!:cool:

Let me know when you are done thoroughly reading all the above mentioned content, and i f you choose not to, then you are purposely choosing to ignore the foundational content this game is built upon and therefore have no right nor reason to complain about a lackthereof.

<sarcasm>Next, we shall raise the lvl cap to 100!!! That way you can help poor lvl 99 goblin Steve accomplish his one and only goal: to respawn. Oh don't forget the achievements that will come along with that: Kill 1,000,000,000 Mobs to obtain Fanboy Crown of Derp, perform 20,000 synthesis actions lvl 90-100 to obtain LUSHANGSLOLWAT? </sarcasm>

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Originally Posted by Vackashken

When ACM was delayed (Aliens: Colonial Marines) they said sorry guys, but check this out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=cMhpFpJSwgA

Now what did it do when people saw that video? They said, damn this sucks (that it was delayed) but got hyped up for the video and it started a lot of positive discussions cause they had something universally acceptable to jaw over. Eye candy.

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Rebuttal? How’s this: I’ve never even heard of this lame game! Never will I check a link that advertises a game that has a title as banal as “Aliens: Colonial Marines”, it just sounds plain stupid. The title itself is off putting, and you think they’ve done something right by throwing out eye candy? That’s laughable, maybe they should work on their name…

Does ANYONE that has complained about lack of updates remember that expression "Patience is a Virtue"? And don't tell me that patience is limited, because it isn't, rather it is YOU that is limited. Close this Twelve forsaken thread already!

The patience is a virtue thing got old a year ago.

Also, it's very interesting to see that some people actually think that posting info is a bad thing.

Looks like the pick got removed for me. I did think it was a tad bit too 'risqué' but I decided to test the waters anyway. I think I deserve a warning if anything, IM SORRY FORUM MODS I DIDN'T KNOOOOOOOOW.

Moar content?

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Originally Posted by Matsume

<sarcasm>Next, we shall raise the lvl cap to 100!!! That way you can help poor lvl 99 goblin Steve accomplish his one and only goal: to respawn.

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Goddamn, does this mean I'm famous now?

Never mind, it's all for Steve's good. He will be greatful.

We need to send SE's war on Goblins now! How can they be happy if they can't re-live life like every other mob?

Here's the rule for future MMO players out there when a new MMO hits the market...and I'll repeat it again. Because I said it the very first day the game was released. If you have no patience to wait out a new MMO...

PLEASE WAIT 1.5 years after it's released to touch it. Otherwise, enjoy the ride of change. Some people play an MMO to see the change...it's also a part of playing an MMO to see how it evolves over time.

Nice rebuttles white knights.

Your argument's are based lously upon metaphor's and petty attempts to derail the topic.

Preview's are a good thing. Robbing us of any kind of update is a bad thing.

Just because any information given somehow "spoils" the game for you, doesn't mean the rest of us are as inclined.

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Originally Posted by Agoven

PLEASE WAIT 1.5 years after it's released to touch it. Otherwise, enjoy the ride of change. Some people play an MMO to see the change...it's also a part of playing an MMO to see how it evolves over time.

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Oh irony. FFXIV was released on September 2010. It's been 1.5 years since release.

Does this somehow validate our opinions more now that 18 months have passed?

Another Golden Rule of MMORPG's is to keep the interest and hype at a maximum as much as possible.

Since subscriptions, there has been a severe lack of any concerte information to keep that interest for a majority of suscribers (Hence why "Lack of content" threads are more frequent than ever, and rightfully so)