Which race deserves to be the main protagonist?

Y'all do realize this is a fantasy game where black Africans can exist as a major demographic in a middle age European-like made up city-states with no problem since it's all made up fantasy and all?

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Originally Posted by Antonio_Xul

Y'all do realize this is a fantasy game where black Africans can exist as a major demographic in a middle age European-like made up city-states with no problem since it's all made up fantasy and all?

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I really don't care about the lack of Hispanics. Why? Because it is a fantasy game made by Japanese people.

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Originally Posted by Zsolen

I really don't care about the lack of Hispanics. Why? Because it is a fantasy game made by Japanese people.

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Exactly. Anything is possible simply because it's a fantasy game. Any combination of race in any situation is possible just because it's a fantasy game, so the argument that blacks can't be over represented, because it's a medieval European like theme is null and void, because there isn't Europe or Africa in this game, but people of all colors do exist.

FYI, Hispanic is not a race.

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Originally Posted by Antonio_Xul

Exactly. Anything is possible simply because it's a fantasy game. Any combination of race in any situation is possible just because it's a fantasy game, so the argument that blacks can't be over represented, because it's a medieval European like theme is null and void, because there isn't Europe or Africa in this game, but people of all colors do exist.

FYI, Hispanic is not a race.

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Neither is black. Human is the actual race and you are missing the point. I don't feel isolated, because people don't look like me.

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Originally Posted by Zsolen

Neither is black. Human is the actual race and you are missing the point. I don't feel isolated, because people don't look like me.

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Neither do I, but I understand those who do. I personally created my own little world with characters I created to fill the void this game won't create and I'm fine with that. It gives me my own personal freedom of how I want my world to be.

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Originally Posted by Zsolen

Neither is black. Human is the actual race and you are missing the point. I don't feel isolated, because people don't look like me.

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Neither is white or asian but they're actual scientific synonyms of the real terms of subcategories of the human race. Just like hyur isn't a race but they're a subcategory of the human race. It's like we're trying to re-write history here or something.

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Neither is white or asian but they're actual scientific synonyms of the real terms of subcategories of the human race. Just like hyur isn't a race but they're a subcategory of the human race. It's like we're trying to re-write history here or something.

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Did I say Asian or white were races? Hyurs are humans. SE botched that.

You say skin tone matters. I say it doesn't.

News for you people.

There were black and brown people all over medieval Europe.

If the fact that both the Roman Empire and the Crusades displaced massive amounts of ethnic demographics throughout their respective time periods (to say nothing of the Mongol Empire, which makes those other two look like baby stuff but was still Asia), and the evidence that they've found in viking warrior burials that there were ancient Norse who practiced Islam (among other things), and that in terms of folklore, there was a Knight of the Round Table who was explicitly black surprises you, consider this, which will blow your mind:

People travel.

People communicate.

People pay lots of money for stuff that's hard to get locally.

This is true today, and has been true since the dawn of human history.

... did I suddenly land in a Kingdom Come: Deliverance forum?

also female Miqo'te, duh. Because EORZEA IS RIGHTFULLY MIQO'TE CLAY! REMOVE LALAFELL! (were is my accordion for perform?)

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Originally Posted by Zsolen

Technically, the other races aren't human but humanoid. I'm not sure why SE decided to muddy the waters. Humanoids are species whose characteristics are relatable to a human. Usually it means being bipedal (which does have exceptions like lamia), often walking upright (although there are exceptions with things like faeries and kobolds), and requiring a certain amount of intelligence. Those that get 2 out of 3 still may be considered humanoid, but it is more of a gray area. Maybe they wanted a term specific to playable races, but they didn't have one.

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I don't mind too much that all the races are "human" here - it sort of emphasises that they're all equally seen as people.

In-game they tend to refer to "the Five Races" rather than use the term "human" anyway. "Man" is more common, and I'm fine with that being applied to non-human-but-might-as-well-be races - I like that a Roegadyn or Lalafell can equally be referred to as 'a man' and not always specified by race.

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My mind isn't blown, since I am a historian. Most people stayed put unless they were nomadic or conquerors. Often ethnic diversity was still people from the same continent. The French, for instance, are majority Celtic but with a decent amount of Germanic blood, some people from the Italian peninsula (not necessarily the tribe in Latium), and other cultures common to Europe. What does this have to do with a Japanese company making Asian/white "generics" throughout their game?

This thread is asking for drama. For real.

On using the term "human", I was browsing back through the Localisation forum and found this discussion - they are deliberately avoiding the term and it's an error if it creeps into the English translation.