Wind-up Yotsuyu minion will be for one character only!

Well that's so you can spread out your purchases to cover all your alts.

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Originally Posted by ExKage

Along with the single character change, there is (for now) no expiration date for the bonus code.

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This was already brought up before. There are some account-wide codes that don't have an expiration either. They're not a mutually-exclusive thing.

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Originally Posted by PatheticBrony

This was already brought up before. There are some account-wide codes that don't have an expiration either. They're not a mutually-exclusive thing.

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My apologies, but based on previous bonus artbook minion codes those all expired. If we're basing it off of previous standard operations, then this is a change, no?

I'm not saying it's a good thing, but pointing out that it's another indication of what they're planning.

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Originally Posted by ExKage

My apologies, but based on previous bonus artbook minion codes those all expired. If we're basing it off of previous standard operations, then this is a change, no?

I'm not saying it's a good thing, but pointing out that it's another indication of what they're planning.

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Here's the two products that don't expire, instead they have a disclaimer on the product itself that any date could be added.
The Wind-Up Hraesvelgr minion with the Scars of War artbook
Wind-up Nidhogg from the Far Edge of Fate OST

It's not really a related thing, whereas you made it sound like one affected the other. Being able to extend the expiration date isn't nearly as (if at all) anti-consumer as to what the focus of the thread is; which is the change from account distribution to single character distribution.

Soooo, what's next?
I guess the 5.0 expansion Collectors Edition stuff will be for only one character, too?

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Originally Posted by Neophyte

Soooo, what's next?
I guess the 5.0 expansion Collectors Edition stuff will be for only one character, too?

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Why stop at just the stuff? Why not the whole expansion! :P

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Originally Posted by PatheticBrony

Here's the two products that don't expire, instead they have a disclaimer on the product itself that any date could be added.
The Wind-Up Hraesvelgr minion with the Scars of War artbook
Wind-up Nidhogg from the Far Edge of Fate OST

It's not really a related thing, whereas you made it sound like one affected the other. Being able to extend the expiration date isn't nearly as (if at all) anti-consumer as to what the focus of the thread is; which is the change from account distribution to single character distribution.

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I apologize, I didn't realize that was the case since I typically just input the code asap. These threads about the Symphony BD and this were how I found out that they started to make this type of change.

My intent in commenting on it wasn't to state that they were caused by each other but that it looked like it was an indication of how the company wanted to start distributing these bonus item codes. No expirations, make them for single characters. Possible way to differentiate a bonus code minion from purchasing from the mogstation (mogstation minions are account-wide right? I know some mounts are not and those that are account-wide are more expensive.)

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Originally Posted by Settiesama

Why stop at just the stuff? Why not the whole expansion! :P

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Easy there, Satan!

NA page got ninja updated too.

Got a reply from SE support, but it's not good news and implies all future bonus items will also be one character only:

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Thank you for contacting the Square Enix Support Centre.

In response to your recent query regarding the use of item codes on your account,

We would firstly like to apologise for any confusion on the use of codes or if you have felt misled at any point. This is not our intention nor our aim.

However, we cannot change the wording on the Store or influence this. If you are looking to obtain a refund, please reply back to this message so we can arrange this. Having said that, we would like to confirm that the codes will continue to only apply to one character and this will also affect the Wind-Up Yotsuyu minion code included with your other order.

Finally, if you have any feedback relating to this issue, please post this on the Square Enix Official Forums.

If you have any other queries, please contact us again. We apologise once more for any inconvenience caused.

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Originally Posted by worldofneil

Got a reply from SE support, but it's not good news and implies all future bonus items will also be one character only:

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Well that's absolute crap, in all honesty.

Settie probably hit the mark about the 5.0 CE bonuses being one character only now too. Thanks SE! We hate it.

So, from what I can gather, item codes are now:

-Expires, but are account-wide

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-Does not expire, but are single character.

Personally, I rather they stick to the does-not-expire model. I'm tired of exclusivity locked bonus items with merchandise. I hope they re-release the older items, too, like wind-up Dalamud and Wind-up Bahamut.

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Originally Posted by JunseiKei

So, from what I can gather, item codes are now:

-Expires, but are account-wide

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-Does not expire, but are single character.

Personally, I rather they stick to the does-not-expire model. I'm tired of exclusivity locked bonus items with merchandise. I hope they re-release the older items, too, like wind-up Dalamud and Wind-up Bahamut.

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I want to believe this, but I don’t. I expect them to add in expiration periods later.

Prove me wrong SE!! Please?

Well. SE will certainly be getting a lot less of my money from physical merchandise now.

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Originally Posted by JunseiKei

So, from what I can gather, item codes are now:

-Expires, but are account-wide

or

-Does not expire, but are single character.

Personally, I rather they stick to the does-not-expire model. I'm tired of exclusivity locked bonus items with merchandise. I hope they re-release the older items, too, like wind-up Dalamud and Wind-up Bahamut.

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They're not mutually exclusive. Page 9 of this thread discusses this.

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Originally Posted by Kaoru_Nagisa

Well that's absolute crap, in all honesty.

Settie probably hit the mark about the 5.0 CE bonuses being one character only now too. Thanks SE! We hate it.

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I wont buy any merchandise from their store anymore and if they do that to the collectors edition too then I will just buy the normal version..I am just sick and tired of all this greed..

I really hope that people will not fall for that and buy more than one item to have it all on their alts..because if they do they just show that they can get away with that. Vote with your wallet and just buy one please. :/ Who knows how far they will take that..

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Originally Posted by Alleo

I wont buy any merchandise from their store anymore and if they do that to the collectors edition too then I will just buy the normal version..I am just sick and tired of all this greed..

I really hope that people will not fall for that and buy more than one item to have it all on their alts..because if they do they just show that they can get away with that. Vote with your wallet and just buy one please. :/ Who knows how far they will take that..

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I've not been able to purchase the CE upgrade for Stormblood just yet despite enjoying the CEs specifically for the nice bonuses they give. But if 5.0's CE ends up being only for one character to claim the extra goodies... yeah, no. Not ever getting it. This is just becoming plain greedy and driving a wedge into any trust most of us still had for SE as a company.

Like I said before, gotta ask Yoshi-P directly or post on the Japanese forums for it to get noticed.

Simply a topic title being: "※本アイテムコードは、ご利用時に選択いただいた１キャラクターに対してのみ、インゲームアイテムが付与されます"

With links to the JP store pages. Then a comment of saying "Why is this happening?": なぜこうなった？

Should be enough to get a discussion going there. Unless there is a thread on the Japanese General Discussion going on now.

Once you do that, someone on the Japanese team will see it, and possibly comment on it.

Once that happens, THEN you'll see someone from the US Community Team make a post about it, which is just a translation post.

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Originally Posted by Dirt-Muppet

Remember the first artbook, Another Dawn & It's bonus Enterprise minion?
That code is still valid - https://twitter.com/Dirt_Muppet/stat...04373575643136

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False information. As I still have the slip for it, I just retried it, it does NOT work. Didn't work in early 2017 when I first attempted, still does not work today.

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Originally Posted by Dirt-Muppet

Remember the first artbook, Another Dawn & It's bonus Enterprise minion?
That code is still valid - https://twitter.com/Dirt_Muppet/stat...04373575643136

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You must have got very lucky, it's not according to SE:

http://support.na.square-enix.com/fa...5382&kid=68090

First emotes, now this.

Ugh...

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Originally Posted by Dirt-Muppet

Hand to The Twelve, I promise you!

I re-snapped both these pics from my mail history, within the last hour.
(Take note of when the message was delivered & the date mentioned within the chat log).

https://twitter.com/Dirt_Muppet/stat...16922161033216
https://twitter.com/Dirt_Muppet/stat...17135386890240

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What was the valid date range for your bonus code? Mine says Oct 17, 2014 to Dec 31, 2016

I'm guessing it's two completely different rules surrounding this based on which site you use. The code for NA(and possibly EU) is 20 characters long. Is it the same on the JP one?

Plus, the leaflet that I got is on a page roughly 4.5inch x 5.5 inch.

Forget the minion; I want Yotsuyu's gear to glamour up my BLM!

Emails are now going out let you know the deal has changed.

Almost 2 weeks late to "Clarify."

I was able to cancel my preorder straight from my orders but some people said they needed to contact support to do it for them.

Haha, wow, this is BS.

I won't be cancelling my pre-order this time because of this but if this does continue to the next one I'll probably just start buying my FFXIV artbooks from a third-party. I'd almost assuredly get better & cheaper shipping on them then what SE is offering (It's gonna be 80$ CAD total).

While I do mainly play one character, I do have multiple characters and I want to have as many items as I can across them. I'm not happy about the cashshop outfits/minions being character-locked either but this is getting absurd. I'm not going to purchase two 40$ artbooks just for one minion.

You already can get it cheaper just look at amazon Japan. $10 shipping vs $40. Even then I will wait for the eventual sale of the artbook.

If SE doesnt have the courtesy of saying how its going to be at time of pre-order, then I wont pre-order, and wont buy at full price either.

Same price less value should mean lower cost.
"But its just a digital minion" Exactly so why limit it to one character now?

I complained about this when I found out about the Eorzea Symphony orchestrion going to only one character on an account. I understand that there might be "Server Strain" or whatnot, but this doesn't make much sense, especially when we're already paying the price of a complete game to get the bonus items.

It's shady business and I don't think I'll be buying the artbook now if this is the kind of practice moving forward, especially when at the time of pre-ordering, for both the CD and the artbook, the bonus code was said to be account wide. I have characters I'd like to have these bonus items now, and it's extremely annoying that I have to purchase them more than once to have access to them.

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Originally Posted by lilirulu

I won't be cancelling my pre-order this time because of this but if this does continue to the next one I'll probably just start buying my FFXIV artbooks from a third-party. I'd almost assuredly get better & cheaper shipping on them then what SE is offering (It's gonna be 80$ CAD total).

While I do mainly play one character, I do have multiple characters and I want to have as many items as I can across them. I'm not happy about the cashshop outfits/minions being character-locked either but this is getting absurd. I'm not going to purchase two 40$ artbooks just for one minion.

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Far as I am aware, the minion is the second bonus item to get this treatment, not the first.

And I really wanted this art book too. :(

Awe, I was thinking of getting this book >:

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Originally Posted by lilirulu

I won't be cancelling my pre-order this time because of this but if this does continue to the next one I'll probably just start buying my FFXIV artbooks from a third-party. I'd almost assuredly get better & cheaper shipping on them then what SE is offering (It's gonna be 80$ CAD total).

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If they gave us more shipping options, then it wouldn't be as bad. But when they only give us the $40 shipping amount...something isn't right. I cancelled my original pre-order of the Shiva Statue because I also wanted the new art book and music disc...for all three of those items, I'm paying the EXACT same shipping as if I was buying just one of those items.

I didn't see it from the live letter happened but they posted it for the digest.

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Originally Posted by Letter from the Producer LIVE Part XLI Digest (1/30/2018)

In-game Bonus Item Codes
Recently, players have noticed that the in-game bonus codes included with FFXIV-related merchandise have been character-specific rather than being account-wide. The reason is because there is a limit to the number of items that can be distributed to service account wide, and it is currently difficult to increase this limit. We’ll continue looking into this moving forward, and will provide an update once we have progress.

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I didn't see it from the live letter happened but they posted it for the digest.

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They really just need to take the effort and resources to revamp their backend.

There's too many limitations and 'spaghetti code workarounds' bogging down the game.

Yup, thanks Square. Haven't laughed that hard in ages.

I have no words for how amazingly stupid that is.

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Originally Posted by ExKage

I didn't see it from the live letter happened but they posted it for the digest.

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Yet they put an account-wide mount on the Mogstation....3 actually, since people noticed that the minion was single-character only. Hmmm.

Honestly...I call bull on this.

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Originally Posted by HyoMinPark

Yet they put an account-wide mount on the Mogstation....3 actually, since people noticed that the minion was single-character only. Hmmm.

Honestly...I call bull on this.

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I cannot agree more. Total bull hockey.

They're just getting greedier and greedier.

I can buy that there's difficulties sending things through the mail to characters. If I create an alt, for instance, my mailbox is flooded immediately with various items.

What I can't buy, though, is the lack of progress towards a proper account bound system. Why not just flag accounts as being either eligible or ineligible for various promotional items and then add a specific NPC in-game where we acquire them if our accounts are flagged accordingly?

They've known about these limitations for a while, after all. You'd think with having to pay an additional sum of money to even have access to alts the game would take steps to be a bit more alt friendly...

It really feels more and more like SE is trying to get us off making Alts.

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Originally Posted by HyoMinPark

Yet they put an account-wide mount on the Mogstation....3 actually, since people noticed that the minion was single-character only. Hmmm.

Honestly...I call bull on this.

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Their regular go to response when they know they've screwed up and plan to ignore the situation is a variation on "The system can't handle it". Sadly most of the time is is bull.