[dev1016] Not stopping to draw a weapon and go into "active mode"

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Originally Posted by OmegaNovaios

This essentially would make Fleet of Foot useless since you couldn't regenerate HP/MP and you wouldn't be running around while trying to counter attack, but you could still move out of AOEs easier, position yourself around mobs easier, or move to teleported targets more quickly, yet again if going into active/passive was as fluid as having no stopping time then that still wouldn't matter for the most part.



With this everyone would be in active mode 100% of time played and would be the most valued skill in the game.

So they should ultimately give LNC a new trait like increased attack distance.

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Thats why I said if anything at all, I wouldn't give them anything. Its a optional ability to slightly increase the movement speed in active mode that would still be in effect, yes they can just switch to passive without stopping for almost the same effect but in a actual combat situation theystay ontop of moving mobs or when/if PvP is added troll players without the trait in PvP scenarios.

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Originally Posted by OmegaNovaios

This essentially would make Fleet of Foot useless since you couldn't regenerate HP/MP and you wouldn't be running around while trying to counter attack, but you could still move out of AOEs easier, position yourself around mobs easier, or move to teleported targets more quickly, yet again if going into active/passive was as fluid as having no stopping time then that still wouldn't matter for the most part.



With this everyone would be in active mode 100% of time played and would be the most valued skill in the game.

So they should ultimately give LNC a new trait like increased attack distance.

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Even if this were true, I would still argue giving a trait to one class to overcome a ridiculous game mechanic is not ideal. If it ruins fleet of foot, give them something that is actually helpful, and let us move while we put away our weapons. How stupid are our characters if they cant draw or sheath a sword without stopping to think about it? Maybe Archers should stop because bows are quite cumbersome... ;)

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Originally Posted by Seikninkuru

How do you people tie your shoes in the morning? Do you use velcro?

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Velco does make my life easier, gives me more time to fasten my helmet b4 I go out!

How is fleet of foot ruined by removing the immobility caused while sheathing and unsheathing your weapon(as well as guard being dropped), enlighten me.

You do realize fleet of foot is designed for faster movement while IN COMBAT not while you move from target to target.

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Originally Posted by Keith_Dragoon

Velco does make my life easier, gives me more time to fasten my helmet b4 I go out!

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LOL my man! you are <3333333 <3xinfinity

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Originally Posted by Seikninkuru

Wow, how literally retarded some of you are. The advantage of Fleet of Foot is not so you can catch up while sheathing weapons. It has to do with your ability to move around in combat faster and reposistion. This is perfectly explained by the entire fact it is put on the LANCER. You know the class with pierces and skills that require positioning, so you can move faster... while repositioning. We're talking about the game stopping movement when you unequip your weapon....

So let's look at this like the mongoloids do.

You are running next to someone without fleet of foot, you both hit active mode, you both stop, the one with fleet of foot runs fast afterward.

Let's pretend you didn't stop.


What would happen, the person with fleet of foot would run faster afterward.

How do you people tie your shoes in the morning? Do you use velcro?

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If there was absolutely no stopping then the person next to LNC could just go passive temporarily to run up to or around the mob then go back to active/hit their attack action at the same speed as the LNC.

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Originally Posted by OmegaNovaios

If there was absolutely no stopping then the person next to LNC could just go passive temporarily to run up to or around the mob then go back to active/hit their attack action at the same speed as the LNC.

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Edit: I felt like I was too rude the first time. I feel like this post is strongly lacking sound judgment.

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Originally Posted by OmegaNovaios

If there was absolutely no stopping then the person next to LNC could just go passive temporarily to run up to or around the mob then go back to active/hit their attack action at the same speed as the LNC.

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Are lancers claimers? Why would I even bother with a lancer to claim mobs when I COULD USE AN ARCHER. As I said retards.

Do you not understand the point of Fleet of Foot? Are you that braindead?

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Originally Posted by Seikninkuru

Are lancers claimers? Why would I even bother with a lancer to claim mobs when I COULD USE AN ARCHER. As I said retards.

Do you not understand the point of Fleet of Foot? Are you that braindead?

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What I said had nothing to do with claiming mobs and yes Fleet of Foot increases movement speed while in Active Mode.

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Originally Posted by OmegaNovaios

What I said had nothing to do with claiming mobs and yes Fleet of Foot increases movement speed while in Active Mode.

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I highly doubt other classes are going to go into passive mode in the middle of a fight to keep up with the lancer.

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Originally Posted by Seikninkuru

Are lancers claimers? Why would I even bother with a lancer to claim mobs when I COULD USE AN ARCHER. As I said retards.

Do you not understand the point of Fleet of Foot? Are you that braindead?

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I think he mean that fleet of foot would become useless since in battle you could go passive, move where you want to and go back active without any delay. So you'd have the same movement advantage simply by switching back and forth between active and passive.

I agree that it'd render fleet of foot useless. One way to solve that would either to make tp down to 0 when switching to passive instead of just rapid lost or simply to replace fleet of foot by another ability.

As for my opinion about removing the delay, i'm for it, keep everything else related to the modes like the regen in passive but remove the delay.

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Originally Posted by Aramil

I think he mean that fleet of foot would become useless since in battle you could go passive, move where you want to and go back active without any delay. So you'd have the same movement advantage simply by switching back and forth between active and passive.

I agree that it'd render fleet of foot useless. One way to solve that would either to make tp down to 0 when switching to passive instead of just rapid lost or simply to replace fleet of foot by another ability.

As for my opinion about removing the delay, i'm for it, keep everything else related to the modes like the regen in passive but remove the delay.

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Alright a more justified reasoning then. That saidm what you stated in bold = the solution to that problem and quite frankly should be the way it is from the start.

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Originally Posted by Seikninkuru

Alright a more justified reasoning then. That saidm what you stated in bold = the solution to that problem and quite frankly should be the way it is from the start.

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Then people will whine about TP loss when going mob to mob if they lack the fleet of foot trait. In that case it goes back to being a highly coveted ability to have.

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Originally Posted by Keith_Dragoon

Then people will whine about TP loss when going mob to mob if they lack the fleet of foot trait. In that case it goes back to being a highly coveted ability to have.

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Isn't that the point of contention? Removing the stoppage of your character while sheathing/unsheathing makes Fleet of Foot useless. If TP goes to 0 without Fleet of Foot, it makes Fleet of foot useful. Hurr durr.

Edit: Point of post isn't about fleet of foot. Fleet of foot was brought up as an ability that will be made useless if removal of stoppage of avatar in world while sheathing/unsheathing was implemented.

The solution mentioned quells those fears, giving justification to the trait, while appeasing the many who dislike the non-fluid gameplay. win-win.

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Originally Posted by Keith_Dragoon

Then people will whine about TP loss when going mob to mob if they lack the fleet of foot trait. In that case it goes back to being a highly coveted ability to have.

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Remove active/passive delays and change LNC trait to something else like increased attack distance as I said before. XD

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Originally Posted by OmegaNovaios

Remove active/passive delays and change LNC trait to something else like increased attack distance as I said before. XD

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Another simple fix.

I find it funny how people are for changing the armory system(the entire foundation of character development in game), the entire battle system(adding auto attack removing stamina)...

But fleet of foot is too much to touch. LOL

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Originally Posted by Seikninkuru

Another simple fix.

I find it funny how people are for changing the armory system(the entire foundation of character development in game), the entire battle system(adding auto attack removing stamina)...

But fleet of foot is too much to touch. LOL

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Rework this entire game from the ground up! touch my fleet of foot, we enemies!

Seriously though w/e is done to calm the souls of the LNC population I don't really care but this needs to be fixed.

I am still for non-offensive casting in passive mode though!

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Originally Posted by Keith_Dragoon

Rework this entire game from the ground up! touch my fleet of foot, we enemies!

Seriously though w/e is done to calm the souls of the LNC population I don't really care but this needs to be fixed.

I am still for non-offensive casting in passive mode though!

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You know I wasn't speaking to you personally! :P Was just an observation about how irrational the people here are. I want the game to be fun, I don't see how stopping when you unequip your weapon makes the game more fun.

I do like the armory system, but that's for another topic.

I was merely making an observation about how ridiculous people sound... Stopping while you unsheathe your weapon is PERFECT, but everything else about the game is bad... lol right. There are probably more than the two or three solutions we have proposed to make this a good fix, but obstinate and irrational thinking seems to triumph here.

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Originally Posted by Seikninkuru

You know I wasn't speaking to you personally! :P Was just an observation about how irrational the people here are. I want the game to be fun, I don't see how stopping when you unequip your weapon makes the game more fun.

I do like the armory system, but that's for another topic.

I was merely making an observation about how ridiculous people sound... Stopping while you unsheathe your weapon is PERFECT, but everything else about the game is bad... lol right. There are probably more than the two or three solutions we have proposed to make this a good fix, but obstinate and irrational thinking seems to triumph here.

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I was just purely being silly but I understand. I don't even have LNC at rank 1 let alone have fleet of foot so I could care less. You speak the truth though. This forums has been flooded with topics of "everything I like is perfect, everything I don't like is broken FIX NAOW!"

[dev1016] Synthesis Interface Improvements?

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Not like it matters as the OP forgot to put a tag in the first place.

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Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah

[dev1016] Synthesis Interface Improvements?

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Not like it matters as the OP forgot to put a tag in the first place.

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Anyone can add tags at any time. The option is at the bottom of the page. The problem is that there's no dev tags that would fit with the subject of the thread.

I support this! Stopping is a pain!

Better idea. Remove the stops, Remove Fleet of Foot (or change it into something else), Make everyone run at 100% speed weapon drawn or not.

Searching through dev tags and this confused me tag/keyword wise.

But I would be for removing/shortening the delay time between active and passive modes.

Totally agreed with the suggestion

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Originally Posted by Fiosha_Maureiba

Searching through dev tags and this confused me tag/keyword wise.

But I would be for removing/shortening the delay time between active and passive modes.

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As mentioned before, there is no dev tag for this particular topic.

Get rid of it. It is just an annoyance.

Tried to fix the tag... I don't understand why they have their #1 priority as "battle system overhaul" yet there's isn't a topic on it.

Edit: Tried to fix the tag but it didn't update. I guess I'm stuck with it. I'm not sure why I chose that one, I must have read it wrong. Oh well. Hopefully if a SE rep reads it they can forward it or edit it properly.

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Originally Posted by MagicofGaia

I think they could reduce the delay that it takes to perform the action, such as they did with gathering actions. I don't know about not stopping at all.

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This.
The delay is what kills me, I don't mind so much about stopping for half a second and starting to run again
Worse thing is when you "stack" switches from active to passive to active, the delay can reach several seconds

ok so this topic was not about contining running , as in while running you draw out your weapon (mix animations) buit just to not say " you can't do that while running" I'm all for that then if they is what is happening XD

sorry topic title and how it was decribed was confusing. as again there is a .5 pause for the 2 animations.

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Originally Posted by Alexis_Arteme

While we're on the subject of overhauling the battle system, am I the only one that would really, really like to be able to not have to completely stop to draw my weapon or put it away?

I would just love to be able to charge rodent x, draw my weapon and show it the world of pain it clearly deserves with the jarring transition.

Simple request, I would hope simple fix. I don't know if anyone else feels the same.

p.s. I sincerely apologize if this has been posted, I ran a search and didn't see anything, which honestly was rather surprising.

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I think this post is about to not stop running to draw your weapon...

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Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus

ok so this topic was not about contining running , as in while running you draw out your weapon (mix animations) buit just to not say " you can't do that while running" I'm all for that then if they is what is happening XD

sorry topic title and how it was decribed was confusing. as again there is a .5 pause for the 2 animations.

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And still there is no .5 second delay.

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Originally Posted by northernsky

This.
The delay is what kills me, I don't mind so much about stopping for half a second and starting to run again
Worse thing is when you "stack" switches from active to passive to active, the delay can reach several seconds

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On the note of delay, if they were to speed up weapon drawing so that you only stop for .5 seconds I would approve of that as well. That is kinda how it was with FFXII. Too bad that one was single player. It would have made a excellent MMO.

I still fully support the complete removal of any stoppage while drawing or stowing ones weapon or shield.

Bump. still needs to be done.

Aaand on cue is Kilta to argue with everyone again... >.<

+1 to this idea. We are hardened and experienced adventurers! We don't need to come to a full stop and carefully draw our weapons before engaging in battle.

Well yeah.. if we look at reality.. it's kind of stupid to be unable of drawing out a weapon while running or walking.. :p
At least while drawing it out.. putting it back in sheat could be much more an attention requiring operation.. you don't wanna cut your hand off or something.. xd

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OMG Yes please!

Yes I agree completely with this. Switch target would be awesome to have as well.

This has been something many people including myself have been wanting changed since closed beta (maybe even alpha but I wasn't in that test). In my opinion not only should the delay be removed but so should active and passive mode.

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Originally Posted by Steggun

In my opinion not only should the delay be removed but so should active and passive mode.

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Even though it's a few superfluous button pushes, I do like the idea of being able to draw and sheathe weapons at will.

With no active and passive mode, what do you suggest instead? Everyone constantly running around with weapons drawn? That would look silly. ^_^

Active and passive modes are fine as long as it doesn't take so damn long to ready our weapons.

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Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus

ummmm every game makes you stop to draw your weapon. >.> even ffxi and WoW. Name 1 rpg that doesn't make you stop a sec then I'll eat my worlds And I need a vid link of it.

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WoW does not make you stop to draw your weapon.