It would be great if SE could actually implement a REAL fix for the login queue issue rather than a shitty band-aid fix like this. Since this just ends up greatly inconveniencing many innocent people. Though honestly they really should have just closed our server to transfers long ago. Since the World Transfer Service page had said for a long time that "Characters cannot be transferred to a World which has already reached the limit for character creation.". Yet despite that SE more than happily accepted money under the table from people wanting to transfer in for years. In the end it was SE's greed and refusal to seriously address the overpopulation issue sooner that lead to the state the server is in now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gabrielleblanc
Can we calm down about the daily logoff?
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06-29-2017, 07:28 AMVallamaria
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06-29-2017, 07:48 AMKaedan
Wait... there's people complaining about the 10 minute server reset? Why? It's standard across all MMOs... and this is only temporary they said.
Of course only those who abuse the AFK exploits are the ones complaining, so there's no point responding to their complaints anyway.
Again, this is standard for all MMOs. Nearly every MMO in existence has a daily server reset. The amazing thing is that they haven't implemented it before and they are only going to do it temporarily. Most MMOs make it a permanent occurrence. -
06-29-2017, 07:50 AMTaggerung5
THE ONLY THING THIS WILL SERVE TO DO, IS CAUSE ENOUGH PLAYERS TO QUIT THE GAME OUTRIGHT BECAUSE THEIR LIMITED PLAYTIME WILL BE INTERRUPTED BY FORCED LOGOUT AND THEIR LOGIN QUEUES WITH DUNGEON QUEUES TIMES COMBINED WILL EFFECTIVELY RENDER THEM UNABLE TO PLAY.
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06-29-2017, 07:53 AMNorthernLadMSP
This is a perfect example of the minority ruining it for the majority.
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06-29-2017, 07:54 AMKaoru_Nagisa
This is still a band-aid fix, though it did help somewhat. But it does nothing to relieve queue times during NA prime, and woe be they who get 90k'd for no apparent reason only to be met by a queue that won't move. Just dc'd with no warning in a first time run of Temple (no idea if my party did, though as usual DF is suspect), hit with an 800 line... which earlier today wasn't so bad, it moved right along.
This one? Barely budged in 15 minutes.
I was in Rhalgr's and saw at least 20 people afking on the bell, something besides this once-a-day thing needs to be done if the issue is to be actually fixed and not simply haphazardly patched up. :c -
06-29-2017, 07:55 AMVallamariaWell it's understandable that people who play DPS would be upset about it. I mean they wait pretty long as it is in queues just to get into runs. So it would majorly suck for them to have the 1 hour notification of the server going down right while they're in the middle of their queue. Since they can't really continue waiting out the queue and do their run without risking getting disconnected right in the middle of their run. So they have to cancel their queue, wait for the auto-log off, log back onto the game after the 10 minutes are up, wait through a login queue if there is one, only to then have to wait in a queue for their run once again.Quote:
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This of course becomes doubly problematic for folks with more limited free time to play. So while it doesn't affect non-DPS players as badly or people with a lot more free time to play it's not hard to see how it could greatly affect certain people. -
06-29-2017, 07:59 AMVanilleFangRight. If people leave over this all I have to say is this: good riddance.Quote:
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06-29-2017, 07:59 AMKethicNobody is going to quit the game over this.Quote:
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06-29-2017, 08:01 AMKosmos992kThat's a heck of a lot of idle instances that the servers have to maintain. What people who are reacting badly to this, or are blaming Balmung alone, are forgetting is that the instance servers and transfer servers, basically the servers that handle all instances other than the world zones are shared across the data center. So, the same lobby and instance servers are congested due to all players on all worlds doing this sort of thing and tying up thousands of instances to do exactly nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackironTarkus
Booting everyone off very 24 hours will help everyone, not just overpopulated servers.
If they do, can I have their stuff?Quote:
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06-29-2017, 12:43 PMKaedanThat's utterly ridiculous.Quote:
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06-29-2017, 12:45 PMKaedanThis is hyperbole, sorry to say. The server resets will occur in off-peak hours. Today's reset started at 12:00pm GMT +8. And the servers will only be down for 10 minutes. When they come back up, queues will actually be shorter if they log right back in again.Quote:
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06-29-2017, 01:03 PMFerrasperYou are correct actually. I had a ten minute wait for expert just after the reset. It actually helps dps queue times if you are fast enough.Quote:
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06-29-2017, 01:41 PMTaranTatsuuchiA 'proper' fix will take development and testing time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vallamaria
It is not something that would be albe to help now.
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06-29-2017, 05:30 PMDekentQuote:
Originally Posted by TaranTatsuuchi
^ This
I'd much rather have a band aid fix that helps today than wait a month with no word for an actual solution (here's hoping they are working on one though!) -
06-29-2017, 06:18 PMXLauncher
There are two main reasons why, no, I will not hand wave this ridiculous half measure.
1. This was my roulette queue today: http://imgur.com/vTpisiE
Personally, I don't particularly mind the long queue. I have plenty of gathering and crafting to do in the downtime. But look at that elapsed time. It took an hour just to get the thing to pop. Combined with the ~25 minutes it takes to clear an expert dungeon with randoms, and I can literally do everything correctly and still face the possibility that I've going to get a world shut down notice half an hour into my wait. This means that not only have I wasted that time (again, I don't really mind the wait, but queueing for roulette does lock me out of other options), I'll have to reinvest it again later, if not forfeit my roulette for the day altogether. That is not okay. It is the height of sycophancy to argue that it is okay.
2. I play on Siren. Logging into my world is not a problem. It's never been a problem, apart from, like, the very first two hours that Stormblood went live. Even if I were to accept this ridiculous half measure as a good idea, it provides me with absolutely zero benefit. If anything, today was the first time I saw a queue since launch because, surprise surprise, booting everyone off means they'll all try to get back in at the same time. Now, that queue went fast, so I don't care about that, but it's still a detriment that I'm suffering for absolutely no benefit to me or my world. Siren is a low populated world, and I definitely do feel the drawbacks of that. I accept those drawbacks because I appreciate the advantages of not playing on a congested world more. But it kind of defeats the point if I have to suffer the same consequences of the circumstances I tried to duck out on the first place. If Balmung and certain other worlds have a problem with AFKers causing queues, then ffs, reboot Balmung and those worlds. We already know for a fact that worlds can be up independently of each other so it's not like it's all or nothing. -
06-29-2017, 08:53 PMSeptonyte
I'm on Balmung, I switched last November, to join an IRL friend who I have known for about 15 years now. I want to say that SE not addressing this situation like this sooner has caused a lot of strife on Balmung, and probably Gilgamesh, too. I am happy with this temporary fix for several reasons.
1) It has mitigated a lot of peak hours congestion even though the congestion has been going down slowly over the last few days while the patch-note players get their MSQ done and leave for the next 3 months. Yesterday, when I logged in at 3PM PST the queue was at 950. It ONLY took 40 minutes. Login queues at the same time on the previous days were at least 3 hours even if the queue was less than 3k. (For those bad at math that is approx 1000 logins in 45 minutes vs. 750 or less per hour) That is because the ratio of actives who log out when they are done vs. AFKers who never log out was better yesterday.
2) I can now move through Kugane's market area without freezing up due to the 100+ people at the retainer bell.
3) Friends who I haven't seen in a week or more because they cant log on in their limited amount of daily play time AND can not afford to leave their game running all day for various reasons actually showed up last night. It was awesome. -
06-29-2017, 09:01 PMKathryn
I just logged on and then I got the msg it was going down /sadface....
And now im back ina rather large queue GG SE GG.... -
06-29-2017, 09:13 PMKahnom
New Mog station item :
Simultaneous Logout Measures Bypass
50$ per account. -
07-02-2017, 12:09 PMViktorMestrovic
Honestly.. all this has done on my server is cause long queues for people to log back on. It has done nothing to resolve the issue of server congestion that is anyway measurable by the community. If anything, it feels like a bullying tactic to convince people to hop servers.. which will never in a million years happen on my server.. because 90% of English speakers are on Tonberry and cannot afford to leave for obvious reasons.