Good King Moggle Mog XII DOWN!

Grats to those with the early Moogle kills, regardless of ur methods.
I was only able to do a quick "feeler" run before logging last night, but am definetly disappointed at the ease of the battle. Looks like we'll be looking for our next new challenge by the end of the weekend.

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Originally Posted by Richard_BG

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Congrats on kill, been in stream all night haha.

Congrats to all the groups who have downed the moogle king! Noone would party with me last night, and I'm not in an end-game/hardcore LS, so I has to wait D:

To those of you complaining about the ease of this primal:

There is a post somewhere (have to get ready for work, sorry!) where Yoshi-P states that the dev wanted to make Moogle King {Impossible to Gauge}, but they made him hold back some so it was in the same realm as Ifrit in terms of difficulty.

what's the healing effect on moogle weapons? how does it work?

People were whining because Ifrit was too hard at first and now people are whining because Moogle King battle was beaten "too fast"?! People are never happy...

Congratulations on everyone who won the battle! :D

Grats on your "Battle Designers" kill. :O

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Originally Posted by Richard_BG

One day cleared content after the designer for Ifrit promised more challenging stuff sure is sadface. But then again if he had designed the fight without exploits it probably would have gone on a bit longer. =/

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Don't try and imply other people used exploits just because BlueGarter didn't get the "world first" kill. :p

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Originally Posted by Kowen

Don't try and imply other people used exploits just because BlueGarter didn't get the "world first" kill. :p

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Sadly, it's well known a lot of people were exploiting it if you tuned into some streams lol.

congrats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1st Congrats an Nicely Done!

/Mini Rant On
lol at the speed that got cleared, while i had my issues with Ifrit (animation lock/lag not it being hard).
I get why they are not doing long quest and detailed fights with lots of work behind them given the focus one would hope is on 2.0 having boss fights that are long and challenging.
(not in the omg it just 1hit the tank kind of way, more the tactical/ waves of mobs/things happening and you react/ moving land/ random things that are not set to XX% hp an some times might not happen at all).
I really want to see it move much more towards the fight in the opening Vid, then static outdated combat.

But the fight looks well done, problem is its the only Big item in this patch.. So it was never going to last long or be enough unfortunately, this alone is making me wonder if i should just bow out untill 2.0 when the game might feel full..
But the Events part is tempting me to pay in one month each patch...
But i digress
/Mini Rant Off

I figured the fight would be cleared in 24 hours, but not in ~6 hours~!

All I have to say is... they need to make content balance, still in the burn party groove... 4 arcs 2 cons 1 gla 1 mrd (or 2 gla)? Maybe one day there will be a fight that requires all the classes (or most) to be present... or at least viable!

3:52pm GMT Lindblum server first and first weapon as far as I know. Joint collaboration between Donkey Knights and Mudbutton Inc. :cool::cool::cool:

We beat it over here, 5 arcs 2 con and 1 gla.

Edit: Yea Kira beat me to it and she was there lol

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Originally Posted by RemVye

I figured the fight would be cleared in 24 hours, but not in ~6 hours~!

All I have to say is... they need to make content balance, still in the burn party groove... 4 arcs 2 cons 1 gla 1 mrd (or 2 gla)? Maybe one day there will be a fight that requires all the classes (or most) to be present... or at least viable!

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It would be hard unless you forced it, such as that it is required to have each class to do x situation.

Because in the end its just you damaging it. And you can do that on all the classes.

Congratz to you guys1

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Originally Posted by RemVye

I figured the fight would be cleared in 24 hours, but not in ~6 hours~!

All I have to say is... they need to make content balance, still in the burn party groove... 4 arcs 2 cons 1 gla 1 mrd (or 2 gla)? Maybe one day there will be a fight that requires all the classes (or most) to be present... or at least viable!

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People choose to do a burn style, you can always mix things up -- It's up to the players, this is the same mentality people had with CoP because it was a quick way to do something, i.e:

PLD
WHM
BLM
BLM
SMN
SMN

You didn't need that setup to clear 99% of the BCNMs in CoP, it just made things a lot easier, all MMOs suffer from this unless they purposefully lock certain class abilities in the fight, i.e some bosses will lock a, b, c class abilities due to "story reasons" or x, y, z classes in general because they design the instance/dungeon/etc to be only enterable by certain classes.

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Originally Posted by KiraHime

3:52pm GMT Lindblum server first and first weapon as far as I know. Joint collaboration between Donkey Knights and Mudbutton Inc. :cool::cool::cool:

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Oh wow! Nice work guys :D

Woo hoo now I can't wait to go back and farm the key items ^^ /facepalm

Special Thanks btw to Mudbutton INC members, you know who you are.

Good times!

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Originally Posted by XStruckX

Woo hoo now I can't wait to go back and farm the key items ^^ /facepalm

Special Thanks btw to Mudbutton INC members, you know who you are.

Good times!

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It's alright Struck, we can just talk while we walk through the fo..9999...est.. ah wtf! Dang tree threw some apples at me :(

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Originally Posted by RemVye

It's alright Struck, we can just talk while we walk through the fo..9999...est.. ah wtf! Dang tree threw some apples at me :(

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Those are some ornary trees. Don't run in my f-ckin' forest!

Well....

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_thAPgUZbDg...s320/Tree1.JPG


How'd you like it if someone came up and picked your apples?

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Originally Posted by RemVye

Well....

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_thAPgUZbDg...s320/Tree1.JPG


How'd you like it if someone came up and picked your apples?

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lol. I can see a tree now pickin' a Lala apart. "How do you like it, huh!?"

so is it true you have to redo the NM quests each time?

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Originally Posted by Krausus

so is it true you have to redo the NM quests each time?

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It says repeatable quest in the description, so, unfortunately, I'd assume so.

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Originally Posted by Roaran

It says repeatable quest in the description, so, unfortunately, I'd assume so.

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Wouldn't be surprised, probably intentional to help keep the content lasting long enough for 1.21.

On average, it takes about 30 minutes to an hour to get all NM's, and that is without wipes. Most people play 3-4 hours in an event time in their shell. My guess is, the normal LS group would fight Moogle about 2-3 times a night assuming you kept winning each one.

Ifrit however, you took time to get tapers, and could keep going at him every 15 minutes after you defeat him.

really drives my desire down quite a bit then with all the walking and competition just for a chance of a new weapon or token it is way to much of a time killer.

Yes we've confirmed that if you want a chance of getting loot from the moogle battle you need to kill all the NMs every time.

It would be fine, maybe even fun, if it weren't for those damn trees.

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Originally Posted by Zozor

Yes we've confirmed that if you want a chance of getting loot from the moogle battle you need to kill all the NMs every time.

It would be fine, maybe even fun, if it weren't for those damn trees.

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That is very unfortunate.

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Originally Posted by Kowen

Don't try and imply other people used exploits just because BlueGarter didn't get the "world first" kill. :p

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the JPs are already clearing it with pickup groups so i dont think "world first" would matter at this point >.< diff. in skill.

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Originally Posted by Zozor

Yes we've confirmed that if you want a chance of getting loot from the moogle battle you need to kill all the NMs every time.

It would be fine, maybe even fun, if it weren't for those damn trees.

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Now I wish I did not QQ so much about ifrit drops.

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Originally Posted by tragic

Now I wish I did not QQ so much about ifrit drops.

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They had to put a time sink in somewhere... I would rather be fighting Moogle than walking through endless tree's for 30-50minutes getting items.

i'd still like to know what's the healing attribute on moogle weapons

So this time instead of making the boss tough, they just make it more annoying to get the reward, crafty!

I usually dont bitch about bad design choices from SE but way to drop the ball on this one.

Wow, just tried killing those NMs for the first time... Are they freaking serious?

JP side also pissed off about the trigger item NM... I didn't have chance to go last night must be really really bad lol

I laughed.
This is MMORPG content? People are going to pay a monthly fee to get some achievements wrapped up?

My sides.

I didn't mind the NM walk/hunt the first time through, it was kind of neat and interesting. But it was also frustrating as hell and I can't imagine doing that after every win. <_< Who has the time for that, let alone the patience or the interest? Does anyone, anyone at all, at Square-Enix know what the definition of "fun" is?

Wow, in 1.18 and 1.19 people were complaining you could spam these fights too much, now youre upset it takes an extra half hour to get the drop items? Even if the moogle has been killed already this will double the longevity of the fight. They had to compensate for the tokens somehow.

In their defense; they are probably not focusing much on the content as they are on the core mechanics of the game. These aspects are extremely important but are usually deal with during the testing phases of a game...
So welcome to the gamma phase of FFXIV.