So has Aether crashed again?

Oh well. Heading to bed. ^^;
Hope they figure it out quick so people can stop stressing and start having fun again.
have a good night all. :3

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Originally Posted by NolLacnala

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Let's put two of the most active populated servers on the same data center.
What could possibly go wrong?

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Originally Posted by Hakuro89

Let's put two of the most active populated servers on the same data center.
What could possibly go wrong?

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Well, the community chose Greg, it wasn't originally the 2nd most. Balmung was carried over from 1.0, but Greg was new. They should have moved it for 3.0s launch tho.

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Originally Posted by Hakuro89

Let's put two of the most active populated servers on the same data center.
What could possibly go wrong?

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Well on this case they didn't CHOOSE to do so. Its just what ended up happening.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

Sure, cuz incessant whining also fixes all of your problems. I guess when the manager just wants you gone it'll solve them.

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But complaining about not receiving a service you pay for is not "incessant whining", its called valuing your time and money
(in before its 50 cents a day idiotic arguments that assume people pay a sub to watch Netflix or HBO 24 hours a day).

The theater manager would refund my money, because they have to face me. This is all I get with this type of service, so it is the only avenue of feedback I have available. If netflix went down for a significant percentage of their subscribers with regularity, do you think everyone mad about that was just "whining"? I literally cannot understand your economically apathetic attitude.

Have you even tried to directly contact SE? I have. Good luck with that if you try. Have you ever been hung up on for a simple complaint by a corporation of decent standing? SE reps do that with regularity, but keep defending them like you are getting paid to do it. Ya'll crazy.

Would moving it be feasible? Or even possible? It seems like 4.0 would be a perfect opportunity to make it happen.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

Aether's is generally because of Balmung and Greg not being sustainable.

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Lol you called Gilgamesh "Greg". That's awesome! Props!

Well if the server where on different hardware then the connection would be over saturated and the network would need to be upgraded. But if all of the worlds are on the same server in the data center then SE is stupid and needs to split up some of the worlds on the Aether data center.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

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I'm just commenting on you saying someone is "emotionally invested" as if its something to be ashamed of. Like we shouldn't "feel" anything when things like this happens.

and I understand that shit happens. Nothing's perfect, things go wrong, blah blah blah. It doesn't mean it isn't frustrating, and it doesn't mean I or anyone shouldn't feel frustrated.

If you don't feel anything when inconvenient and frustrating things happen to you with the things you enjoy, then kudos to you, but a person shouldn't have to be silent on a forum page that's literally meant for people to express their feelings and opinions.

I know nothing about servers and the likes. But I do know that I just got off work, and was looking forward to relaxing and playing the game, especially after having a 24 hour maintenance that I totally was ok with, but then an emergency maintenance AND a hotfix maintenance on my day off.

Its frustrating.

people talk about emotional investiture but not financial. money spent is money spent.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

Oh, that may have been an actual issue, but it may not be the root cause.
They have lots of sustainable servers, people just transferred off for "greener pastures." In reality, they need to lock down Balmung and Greg, and LEAVE them locked, to EVERYTHING. No world transfers to either, and free transfers off, along with the removal of the gil restriction specifically for people leaving them. Add housing wards to the other servers and make it so you can transfer housing between servers.

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It could have been fishing ya, but I don't see how something we did since 2.0 is now killing the game. It's true they can't just flip the switch and put new hardware into play, and I don't really know how a transfer between world's would work, since the same amount of traffic would still be there just dispersed out. Before this patch only Bal and Gig only had issues with them being full, now the whole center is dying? I could agree that it is cross pf related, but at the same time that would mean the netcode is so weak for this function that no matter what they do aether will be getting hit left and right.

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Originally Posted by Beeraga

Have you even tried to directly contact SE? I have. Good luck with that if you try. Have you ever been hung up on for a simple complaint by a corporation of decent standing? SE reps do that with regularity, but keep defending them like you are getting paid to do it. Ya'll crazy.

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Yes I have and rarely have I had a problem getting a hold of them but then again I'm not yelling at them either.

Adjusting accordingly wouldnt be needed if they would just be prepaired for this. I mean in all fairness to the player base we pay to play this game. We have a right to want better quality and preparedness.

I get frustrated all the time, i just dont vent at random people on forums, and then get mad when they arent as upset as I am and call them white knights or defenders of inhuman corporations or w/e. I was hoping to finish my relic tonight, not happening, but oh well. Theres always tomorrow.

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Originally Posted by Lexia

Yes I have and rarely have I had a problem getting a hold of them but then again I'm not yelling at them either.

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You assume I yelled at them, which would be wrong of you. So, great addition..... Good lord save us from such irrational acceptance of corporate failure.

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Originally Posted by Jetstream_Fox

It could have been fishing ya, but I don't see how something we did since 2.0 is now killing the game. It's true they can't just flip the switch and put new hardware into play, and I don't really know how a transfer between world's would work, since the same amount of traffic would still be there just dispersed out. Before this patch only Bal and Gig only had issues with them being full, now the whole center is dying?

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So the datacenter is a cluster of servers connected together. Each cluster has the world servers, instance servers, lobby server and all attached to them. Now, what can happen, when you have multiple servers at capacity, is they will bog the cluster down, and can result in a crash. If the traffic from a set of servers exceeds the clusters limitations, then boom.

This is all generalization, I have no idea how SE has the servers set up, but its a good example.

aaaaaannndddd another hour and a half maintenance.

Until 11pm pst...orz

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Originally Posted by Beeraga

You assume I yelled at them, which would be wrong of you. So, great addition..... Good lord save us from such irrational acceptance of corporate failure.

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others on this thread assume you yell at SQ because the posts you make seethe with hostility; mostly towards people, random strangers, that are probably having the same problems and pay the same rate, if this is the way you treat those sharing the same problems as you, those same people that you vent your anger at can only imagine how bad you are towards those that may be the cause of your stress.

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Originally Posted by Beeraga

You assume I yelled at them, which would be wrong of you. So, great addition..... Good lord save us from such irrational acceptance of corporate failure.

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Not saying your personally yelling at them but I'm sure they get a good amount that do and I was pointing out it not really that hard to get a hold of SE support.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

This has nothing to do with white knighting, a simple explanation of how the issue could occur. The reaching is strong with this one. Enjoy getting mad at everything o/

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You are pontificating, you are offering nothing of real substance other than what MIGHT be the case in defense of SE. Enjoy defending a company you don't even work for.

This thread makes me realize that lalas are angry at everything taller than they are...

Is it back up yet?

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Originally Posted by Beeraga

You are pontificating, you are offering nothing of real substance other than what MIGHT be the case in defense of SE. Enjoy defending a company you don't even work for.

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That wasnt a defense. It was an explanation of how a server cluster could possibly get overwhelmed due to traffic overload. Now you are just showing how irrational you are.

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Originally Posted by Jas710

Is it back up yet?

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there's an hr and a half maint. as of 9 minutes ago.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...8Jan.-19-20%29

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Originally Posted by Jas710

Is it back up yet?

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No it down for maintenance

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In order to address ongoing technical difficulties, we will be performing emergency maintenance on all Aether data center Worlds at the time below, during which players will be unable to access those Worlds.
[Date & Time]
Jan. 19, 2017 9:30 p.m. to 11:00 p.m. (PST)

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if its bad now just wait for the weekend Aether might just explode!

Fishing is the bane of aether's existence.

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Originally Posted by Jas710

Is it back up yet?

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SE will announce when it's back up.

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Originally Posted by Directionless

others on this thread assume you yell at SQ because the posts you make seethe with hostility; mostly towards people, random strangers, that are probably having the same problems and pay the same rate, if this is the way you treat those sharing the same problems as you, those same people that you vent your anger at can only imagine how bad you are towards those that may be the cause of your stress.

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So let us review. I make a complaint and respond to those who detract from my complaint, and that makes you think I am seething with hostility? Did I ask them to respond to my complaint? Did I attack anything beyond their counterargument? Did I attack them personally beyond possibly upsetting their stance? Am I not allowed to respond to their detraction? Interesting. I'd like to hear more about this very strange outlook of your perception of my stress through text.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

That wasnt a defense. It was an explanation of how a server cluster could possibly get overwhelmed due to traffic overload. Now you are just showing how irrational you are.

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No, it was a load of ignorance from a random with no actual understanding of anything in actuality in an attempt to tell me I should not complain. I think you should reevaluate the irrational position.

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Originally Posted by Beeraga

No, it was a load of ignorance from a random with no actual understanding of anything in actuality in an attempt to tell me I should not complain. I think you should reevaluate the irrational position.

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Ignorance huh? How bout you try to explain to someone with no technical knowledge the workings of a datacenter then? I wasn't saying thats how it worked, I was saying its how it could possibly work. You took offense to that for some reason, and that is why you are irrational. In fact, that post had absolutely NOTHING to do with you. You werent even part of that particular discussion.

And i maxed out on posts, so I'm done here.

I'm sure this will get a response saying im still ignorant and a white knight or w/e.

Beeraga hasn't been hostile. He's upset because he's paid for play time and doesn't feel that SE is holding up to what they agreed to sell him.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

Ignorance huh? How bout you try to explain to someone with no technical knowledge the workings of a datacenter then? I wasn't saying thats how it worked, I was saying its how it could possibly work. You took offense to that for some reason, and that is why you are irrational. In fact, that post had absolutely NOTHING to do with you. You werent even part of that particular discussion.

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If you do not work for SE and have no actual knowledge of their actual server/technical situation, than you are simply uselessly pontificating.

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Originally Posted by Domeric

Beeraga hasn't been hostile. He's upset because he's paid for play time and doesn't feel that SE is holding up to what they agreed to sell him.

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Well person doesn't really pay for play time in a sense, as person pays the same amount regardless of how little or lot they play during that time frame.

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Originally Posted by Lexia

Well person doesn't really pay for play time in a sense, as person pays the same amount regardless of how little or lot they play during that time frame.

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They pay for thirty days of play time. Whether or not they choose to play is irrelevant. The service offered is thirty days.

There's no sense in getting into arguments over hypotheticals, or attacking each other over the same. Downtime is downtime, and it will end.

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Originally Posted by Lexia

Well person doesn't really pay for play time in a sense, as person pays the same amount regardless of how little or lot they play during that time frame.

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And yet here we both are on the forums because the server is still down. Is THIS, mayhap, what I'm paying for?

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Originally Posted by Domeric

They pay for thirty days of play time. Whether or not they choose to play is irrelevant. The service offered is thirty days.

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We pay for access to the servers which lasts for 30 days (by default, other time frames are offered), but everyone who plays this game has willingly agreed to the terms of service which states that we are not guaranteed access at all times in that 30 day period.

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Originally Posted by Beeraga

And yet here we both are on the forums because the server is still down. Is THIS, mayhap, what I'm paying for?

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I'm here on the forums even when the game is up, if you look at my post count.

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Originally Posted by Beeraga

And yet here we both are on the forums because the server is still down. Is THIS, mayhap, what I'm paying for?

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Congratulations! I'm here on SE behalf to give you 30 EXP for this post~! 200K to go till the next rank up!! :D

Would be nice if things get bumpy repeatedly in a short period of time if they sent some mail thing, unfortunately people might be ungrateful for whatever was gifted it it wasn't what they wanted. "I didnt want metallic snurble dye, I wanted neon black dye!!"

Not that server issues is a good thing but I imagine interfacing with people is like 90% you lose lol. Massive props to community managers who have to deal with everyone on their different days XD.

(Totally no on SE's behalf about that joke though, not impersonating anyone lol)