To Yoshida-san - Poor Excuse for Continuing Horrible Time Sink Loot System from Ifrit

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Originally Posted by Kiara

Hi Jeeves,

I empathize with you. There have been a few people I know that have quit or given up fighting Ifrit because of this wretched Time Sink.

It's very clear that Yoshida-san and team, while busy making FF XIV Version 2.0, don't have enough resources to generate enough content to keep us busy.

So while delivering an interesting Ifrit Primal Fight, some poor excuse for a Designer decided that the best way to stretch out the content that they gave us for 1.19 (Ifrit and Beastmen Strongholds) was to make this stupid Loot System that dumps items directly into your inventory.

Does it keep some players continually playing and trying for their desired weapon? Yes.

And they probably are playing longer than if the Loot System was like Dzemael, but ultimately Yoshida-san should've *given us the choice*. Give the Players the choice if they want to keep playing or do other things. Even if we finished getting Ifrit Weapons that we wanted (with the Normal Loot System before 1.19 that actually *worked* just fine), people could try to farm HQ Mats for HQ Weapons and Armor, or try for Double, Triple, Quadruple Meld Materia.

But at least it's our choice to keep busy or do things we want to.

This poor excuse to stretch Game Content has angered more players and driven away more people than any other End Game Content Yoshida-san has provided so far.

Yoshida-san, you're ruining the good will you've been building up until now.

I hope you reconsider.

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I agree, and anyone who says that what this game needs now is timesinks to "keep people busy" should go take a look at Materia. There you go. We have all the timesink in the world with the Materia system as it would take at least until 2.0 to get all armor, for all classes, quadruple melded.

We don't need some stupid personal loot system to keep us busy and harm the one thing that kept many of us playing so long in an unfinished game (playing with and for friends).

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Originally Posted by Jeeves

One final thing I want to say, we don't need yoshi or his team trying to stop ninja looters. Pure and simple if a person is shown to be a ninja looter there name becomes scum in my book and all my friends books and more then likely on the whole server. Especially since this is a game where your main character is someone that you've put hours and hours of time into and just recreating a new char for the sole purpose of avoiding all the hate coming towards you isn't a viable option.

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This. There is also a chat filter showing what landed on whose loot list, so there isn't really a way you can silently loot an item! Which makes the whole excuse moot.

Renshi, you can kill him another 100 times and still get no Axe. A person in my group has made over 150 kills, and he wants the Axe, but has gotten everything BUT the axe. Including tossing 4 swords, 3 canes, 1 THM, and 1 PUG weapons. You see the problem in this system?

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Originally Posted by Bluebun

Renshi, you can kill him another 100 times and still get no Axe. A person in my group has made over 150 kills, and he wants the Axe, but has gotten everything BUT the axe. Including tossing 4 swords, 3 canes, 1 THM, and 1 PUG weapons. You see the problem in this system?

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I was just kiddin', I know the gravity of the problem =)

They know what to do though, and this seems like a good system to repair for who keeps on running Ifrit without a weapon. I would like to see this in action.

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Originally Posted by Lucifer

This was his excuse to implement a NEED GREED PASS system.
Next year you will see a bunch of FFXIV advertisement saying : "You are not in Azeroth Anymore!"

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Is this suppose to be a witty way of saying the game is turning into WoW? If so, please try harder.

Imma say this in the MMO before this one yes FFXI if you ninja lotted anything from a serious group or pick up group which is kinda never happened really till abbysea your rep. was tarnished and ppl would do the following " deny entry to linkshells , parties, etc etc "
So ninja looting is a big slap in the face to players . Please who ever told directer of this game or who ever made this idea go foward please do us a favor and give your 2 week notice . you want more time sinks give us more r/ex drops that "ENDGAME LS" can farm and kill and compete just saying give a better excuse liike "We cant make enough content or come up with original ideas to satisfy the player base .

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Originally Posted by Isaveron

Is this suppose to be a witty way of saying the game is turning into WoW? If so, please try harder.

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Pow ..................

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Originally Posted by Zoltan

My main objection to the "Need" system being based upon a job that you are currently using is not applicable to Final Fantasy because there are multiple jobs.

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This is why it doesn't have to work that way, the system can easily check to see if you have a job high enough to use the item.

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Should you be prevented from obtaining a level 40 weapon for your PUG because it's currently level 39? Should you be prevented from obtaining a level 50 Paladin shield because you haven't completed the quest yet, although all of your other jobs are capped?

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No you shouldn't be prevented, but if you are 39 and the weapon is 40 and someone else is 41 the person who is 41 should get priority as he can use it imidiately.

Hence why I suggested the 41 would get the option to need, greed and pass, the 39 would get the choice to greed and pass.

They could even design the system to have a +5 tolerance, but i still think that someone who can use it straight away should have more priority.

There is nothing stopping them adding master loot anyway, WoW has a lot of different loot choices, including Master Loot and many addons which deal with DKP and other stuff to sort loot into the correct persons hands.

I once had D.ring dropped in my lap and it was the 4th only one on the server, they were too busy arguing who should get it. They joked I ninjered it and awarded me an Aegis a month later.

Is that bad? >.>

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Originally Posted by Amage

Imma say this in the MMO before this one yes FFXI if you ninja lotted anything from a serious group or pick up group which is kinda never happened really till abbysea your rep. was tarnished and ppl would do the following " deny entry to linkshells , parties, etc etc "
So ninja looting is a big slap in the face to players . Please who ever told directer of this game or who ever made this idea go foward please do us a favor and give your 2 week notice . you want more time sinks give us more r/ex drops that "ENDGAME LS" can farm and kill and compete just saying give a better excuse liike "We cant make enough content or come up with original ideas to satisfy the player base .

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Hi Amage,

Well said. I really hope he reconsiders the Loot System for Primals before 2.0 launches.