R50 bows

I hope you're not saying I'm backpedaling... And like I said before, I am just trying to understand everyone's side of the argument.

No, no of course not you.

The guy who says there's a cap on dmg per shot then proven wrong, who posts numbers to what those caps are then proven wrong, who says Silver arrows are only thing that matter and others are garbage then proven wrong, who says there's a cap on crits then proves himself wrong, who then starts putting excuses in to defend why he's wrong like buffs don't count.

Now we can get back to talking about bows and hope that SE adds some more variety soon! Like Guns and Crossbows.

I would like to see some more variety in the weapons, it gets boring seeing the same exact weapon colored differently.

I'm assuming guns and crossbows will be added soon after they adjust classes and stuff like that. But yeah I may disown Archer if there is different gun and crossbow classes :P

One of the best things about Archer was it didn't cost an arm an a leg to make it to rank cap like FFXI.

I imagine that would totally change once guns are added.

Archer may not get guns.
The class Archer may unlock the job Ranger at some point, then allowing to use Guns, Crossbows, Boomerangs and maybe even hand weapons like Daggers, but thats a total guess based on what a Ranger is in FFXI.

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Now we can get back to talking about bows and hope that SE adds some more variety soon! Like Guns and Crossbows.

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guns and crossbows are garbage

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Originally Posted by Phrozen

guns and crossbows are garbage

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Your opinion is garbage.

I think small, one-handed crossbows would be cool, and Guns, if ever added, would go to the yet to be added Musketeer class.

So wait... instead of increasing the variety of weapons and giving us more of a choice, you would prefer nothing more? Yeah... great idea there Phrozen

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

Your opinion is garbage.

I think small, one-handed crossbows would be cool, and Guns, if ever added, would go to the yet to be added Musketeer class.

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only reason crossbows would be good is if you could change to different bolts easily like in XI which you can't

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Originally Posted by JayvirDeforte

So wait... instead of increasing the variety of weapons and giving us more of a choice, you would prefer nothing more? Yeah... great idea there Phrozen

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please teach me the ways of the archer mr i use coral arrows on everything

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Originally Posted by Phrozen

only reason crossbows would be good is if you could change to different bolts easily like in XI which you can't



please teach me the ways of the archer mr i use coral arrows on everything

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How do you know you can't change them quickly if they aren't even in the game yet?
And it probably better than using Warped Arrows on everything...

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Originally Posted by Phrozen

only reason crossbows would be good is if you could change to different bolts easily like in XI which you can't

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Oh really? Have you used a crossbow in this game? Odd, because I havent seen them yet >_>
You have no idea how they could be implemented. You just love *****ing dont you?

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Originally Posted by Phrozen

please teach me the ways of the archer mr i use coral arrows on everything

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Better than using Warped arrows on everything

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

How do you know you can't change them quickly if they aren't even in the game yet?
And it probably better than using Warped Arrows on everything...

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maybe because you can't even arrow swap in the game? that may be hard for someone like you to comprehend tho

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Originally Posted by JayvirDeforte

Better than using Warped arrows on everything

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you're gonna go far kid. keep SP'n on your coral arrows

You get SP at 50? Yeah... good luck with that

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Originally Posted by JayvirDeforte

You get SP at 50? Yeah... good luck with that

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Yea, I still get SP from everything, I'm halfway to 55 right now.

As to not being able to switch arrows. You DO realize they could put in a skill for arrow swapping....
Saying something is impossible just because its not in game at the moment is silly...

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

Yea, I still get SP from everything, I'm halfway to 55 right now.

As to not being able to switch arrows. You DO realize they could put in a skill for arrow swapping....
Saying something is impossible just because its not in game at the moment is silly...

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Agreed.
If Phrozen took the time to actually READ what i said, you would see that I said that you have no idea how they could implement it... meaning they could add in the skill. Granted at the moment it isn't easy to swap arrows but you can still do it during battle so long as you go into passive mode. A simple macro helps navigating menus

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Originally Posted by JayvirDeforte

You get SP at 50? Yeah... good luck with that

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you used coral arrows to SP with from r40 > 50

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Originally Posted by JayvirDeforte

Agreed.
Granted at the moment it isn't easy to swap arrows but you can still do it during battle so long as you go into passive mode. A simple macro helps navigating menus

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you actually do that? lol

Amazing that you claim you know that, Especially if you claim you have no idea who I am. As a matter of fact, I havent even had access to coral arrows until after I hit 50 in January since we didnt even have a high enough carpenter to make Coral arrows so that point is moot. Try to make up more stuff about me please. It's really amusing. I actually used Silver from 40 to 50

Hey, I'm just saying that if you wanted to switch arrows, you could. You said there was no way to do it and I proved you wrong. Your move

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Amazing that you claim you know that, Especially if you claim you have no idea who I am. As a matter of fact, I havent even had access to coral arrows until after I hit 50 in January since we didnt even have a high enough carpenter to make Coral arrows so that point is moot. Try to make up more stuff about me please. It's really amusing. I actually used Silver from 40 to 50

Hey, I'm just saying that if you wanted to switch arrows, you could. You said there was no way to do it and I proved you wrong. Your move

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i said swap easily.

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Originally Posted by Phrozen

maybe because you can't even arrow swap in the game? that may be hard for someone like you to comprehend tho



you're gonna go far kid. keep SP'n on your coral arrows

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All I see is you saying you cant swap at all, and can this discussion actually move back to what it was intended for.

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Originally Posted by Nergul

All I see is you saying you cant swap at all, and can this discussion actually move back to what it was intended for.

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that being r50 bows which there aren't any

Yes, and someone mentioned adding crossbows and you shot them down by being a douche. I would love to see you constructively add to the topic.

Honestly, Unless they add in different designs, I would hate to see any new bows. How many more iterations of the Weevil/Crab bow do we need?

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Originally Posted by JayvirDeforte

Yes, and someone mentioned adding crossbows and you shot them down by being a douche. I would love to see you constructively add to the topic.

Honestly, Unless they add in different designs, I would hate to see any new bows. How many more iterations of the Weevil/Crab bow do we need?

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Exactly my point, we need more variety of the bows, having the same one with a different color variation is boring. And Phrozen, try being optimistic, I know it's not your strong point, but hey, if you try, you may end up having more fun.

I could also see Guns/Crossbows give their own weaponskills. Think of the possibilities! You could have totally different archer builds.

It would make things interesting for sure, but I think they should seperate them, so you can't have bullet skills on arrows, and vice versa.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

It would make things interesting for sure, but I think they should seperate them, so you can't have bullet skills on arrows, and vice versa.

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Yeah but watch them add like three round burst or some broken ability like that LOL

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Originally Posted by Isaaru

Yeah but watch them add like three round burst or some broken ability like that LOL

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I can see them adding a double shot maybe, for double barreled guns, but i don't think they can do a triple shot with 1 barrel, it would go against the semi-realistic physics they are going for.

I have no doubts for them making invisible magazines for the guns just like in XI. Playability > Realism
And plus I mean there are currently "muskets" so they could ram a ton of bullets down the rifle for it lol

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

I would like to see some more variety in the weapons, it gets boring seeing the same exact weapon colored differently.

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Agreed I am so sick of looking at the same bow and we all using same one

Sorry I know this is off topic but is the att,acc,crit rate from arrows just not added to overall stats or it is invisible? If it's not added why the hell do they put it on the arrows broken/glitch maybe?

Its invisible, you get the bonus from them, but they don't show up, just like offhand tools.

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Originally Posted by AshelyRiot

Agreed I am so sick of looking at the same bow and we all using same one

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it was the same in XI. they could have at least let us pick what color crab shell we wanted to use

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Originally Posted by Phrozen

it was the same in XI. they could have at least let us pick what color crab shell we wanted to use

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This is true but people would be using a bow,gun or crossbow. we didnt all use same thing at same time. Also most things were party based and you usually wouldn't have bunch of rng's in the pt unless it was for some NM or old school rng burn up in sky on weapons.

Also your bow,cross bow,gun didn't hang on your back so you didn't have to stare them even ppl were using the same one.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

Its invisible, you get the bonus from them, but they don't show up, just like offhand tools.

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Thank you for your reply^^ kinda wish it would show

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Originally Posted by AshelyRiot

Thank you for your reply^^ kinda wish it would show

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You're welcome.
It would be nice if it showed, maybe they will change it later on.

Wow this Phrozen guy is a really bad troll :(

If we get rR50 bows, they should not only look bad ass, sparkle, and have an arrow dispenser... it should drop off an NM. Particularly a cool looking one that shoots rainbows or something. Maybe something dangly on the bow.

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Originally Posted by Altaeiu

If we get rR50 bows, they should not only look bad ass, sparkle, and have an arrow dispenser... it should drop off an NM. Particularly a cool looking one that shoots rainbows or something. Maybe something dangly on the bow.

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O.o

It might have all of that, but the stats will be worse than the Crab Bow.......and then you need to decide between the "everyone has one the looks the same but it works well" Crab Bow, and the "OMG! It's so shiny! And it dispenses arrows! But it only has a use as a doorstop" {Unnamed Bow}.

I guess when they get round to allowing us to customise gear/weapons a little more (I don't think that giving us approx. 4-5 colours for a piece of gear is true "customisation"), things might improve.....But with so many things still to change, it might be a little while before we get to see something like this, if ever.

R50 bows pllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllz!!!!!