PS3 support is done

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Originally Posted by Senliten

Cause someone is going to say it, and i'll go ahead and do it.

DX12 support when? XD

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Probably not until 5.0 if you want proper support.
4.0 if you just want them to transfer existing DX11 straight over to DX12.

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Originally Posted by Lufir

I don't get why people are so happy about this. They did this with FFXI when they dropped the Xbox360 and PS2. It was more of a console server issue. In other words, the game was not visually enhanced in any way, what so ever. It was merely just to help with a server issue. And surprise, there is mention of increased server capacity shortly after 4.0. Don't expect to have brand new amazing character visuals everyone is clamoring for.

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It's as if it's 2016 and changes are much easier to implement now or something, compared to 10+ years ago.

To be serious it's really quite simple why players are happy; they want the game to grow! Even small QOL changes will make a large impact. I honestly doubt most people taking about graphical overhauls are expecting a miracle (Aside from High Quality Textures). Do you think holding on to obsolete hardware is better for the lifespan of the game?

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Originally Posted by Lufir

I don't get why people are so happy about this. They did this with FFXI when they dropped the Xbox360 and PS2. It was more of a console server issue. In other words, the game was not visually enhanced in any way, what so ever. It was merely just to help with a server issue. And surprise, there is mention of increased server capacity shortly after 4.0. Don't expect to have brand new amazing character visuals everyone is clamoring for.

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I read many opinions on forums, but never was someone talking about graphics. This is about features people want and them thinking the ps3 was holding the game back in their opinion. Imo this is good for the game and now very old pc are replacing the ps3 as the minimum requirement, because while the ps4 isn't that strong, it is still better than some old pc people i know play on. Everything has to move forward at some point, despite the fact that some people may not have the money to afford better hardware any time soon.

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Originally Posted by era1Ne

I read many opinions on forums, but never was someone talking about graphics. This is about features people want and them thinking the ps3 was holding the game back in their opinion.

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Butt sliders, better looking egis, hi-res textures are some of the graphical things people are talking about in this thread. All of these things can exist even if the PS3 is still supported. My point is dropping the PS3 support is more of a benefit to a server issue, as well as a financial benefit for Square Enix. I think people are going to over hype themselves into believing what an actual impact this will make to their visual gameplay.

I still think the ps3 was holding us back... Like the same old animations for X skills ( because the ps3 hadn't enough memory to got more ?)

And yeah better textures will Come, for sure.

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Originally Posted by LineageRazor;3892700.

Removing support for PS3 happened for one reason, and one reason only: It was determined that the costs for developing for the platform were less than the income flowing in from the PS3 players. That is all. Sorry to burst your bubble, folks, but what we have is the framework that the game will continue to be developed under until the day they close down the servers for good - and not because of PS4, but because of older PCs.

But, hey - dream on, you starry-eyed dreamers!

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Your funny. You can get a decent gaming pc for 500 dollars. Such as an Asus Ibuypower, on Cyber Monday you catch one on ebay for around 350.

I literally just got a PS4 a couple months ago and just re-obtained the license for FF14 on it two DAYS ago. Wow, what timing! So, I guess the news that the platform I no longer play the game on is no longer supporting the game doesn't affect me in the slightest, now. I mean, they told us they were going to do this a very long time ago, they just moved the schedule up one expansion... At least they waited for the PS4 to come down considerably in price! And once the new one comes out, it'll probably go even lower.

Also, with the PS4, I don't have to drag my ethernet cable across the room every time I want to play now, and the graphics are better and the movements are smoother and the visual lag has gone down and... it's just so much better.

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Originally Posted by AsahinaMyLove

Baaaaaad move von SE >.>
I dont like this game on PS4.. every1 looks so ugly flat... my chars also: not pretty at all!

I quit my sub and look for an other MMO if they still dont bring at least screensize option for the so called next gen console PS4 for our game!

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Go away, just go.

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Originally Posted by Lufir

They did this with FFXI when they dropped the Xbox360 and PS2. It was more of a console server issue. In other words, the game was not visually enhanced in any way, what so ever..

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That is because FFXI was always developed with the PS2 as the leading platform, using the PS2 development tools (even now, in 2016). So they couldn't actually improve any visuals without rewriting the client from scratch, basically. Shutting down the console servers was more of cost saving decision than anything else in that case. The situation is different for XIV, so adding things that were constrained by PS3 memory issues before (like bringing back party buff display, for example) is technically feasible. Whether or not it will actually happen, is another question, of course.

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Originally Posted by Lufir

hi-res textures are some of the graphical things people are talking about in this thread. All of these things can exist even if the PS3 is still supported.

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No they can't, because they wouldn't have worked with the PS3, and the devs have said already that they want everyone's experience to be roughly the same so there wouldn't be for example HD textures for PC only while PS3 still has to use the current ones.
That's why the PS3 going away is giving people hope, that's all :)

And then you have other visual things that were reportedly the PS3's limits' fault, like how much detail they could put into every hairstyle and the like, which will no longer be a concern now.

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Originally Posted by Yasuhiro

Why do you need to bring up irl on an online internet forum about a fantasy game? it's for the likes and a shot at a pointless jab isn't it?

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Considering i don't check back to see my likes if any then no but honestly they are so incredibly grumpy and every post is them moaning i just felt the need to ask.

PS3 dropping support is going to be beneficial for the game, yes. However, that doesn't mean people are suddenly disgusting creatures for playing on ps3 all this time. Some people don't have the money for a ps4 and as much as I like to joke around with one of my friends that doesn't have ps4, I do it in jest. The stuff I read here is questionable and inhuman.

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Originally Posted by Lunafreya

PS3 dropping support is going to be beneficial for the game, yes. However, that doesn't mean people are suddenly disgusting creatures for playing on ps3 all this time. Some people don't have the money for a ps4 and as much as I like to joke around with one of my friends that doesn't have ps4, I do it in jest. The stuff I read here is questionable and inhuman.

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It's just PC players being PC players, as a console player you get used to their superiority attitude as it's the only way they can feel that way.

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Originally Posted by Lone-wolfe-02

It's just PC players being PC players, as a console player you get used to their superiority attitude as it's the only way they can feel that way.

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Here you are, generalising and attacking an entire group of people based on their platform of choice.
You just go to show that both sides have immature, angry children on them. :)

And SE will report that they lost 750k users.

And in the end, we'll eventually see FFXI happen all over again when SE closed the doors on PS2 and Xbox 360 a few months ago. Sadly, I was actively subbed to FFXI from 2005 until around Nov 2015. At some point, FFXIV will only be available on PC with developers just keep it clean of bugs and other issues that pop up.

Oh well!

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Originally Posted by Astrapls

Here you are, generalising and attacking an entire group of people based on their platform of choice.
You just go to show that both sides have immature, angry children on them. :)

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Yet i'm neither of those things. I'm just saying most of them are like that and this entire thread of people belittling Ps3 players just sums it up, if you believe it's otherwise then prove it to be honest.

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Originally Posted by AsahinaMyLove

Baaaaaad move von SE >.>
I dont like this game on PS4.. every1 looks so ugly flat... my chars also: not pretty at all!

I quit my sub and look for an other MMO if they still dont bring at least screensize option for the so called next gen console PS4 for our game!

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Not sure what kind of TV you're using, but I'm pretty sure most modern TVs you can buy don't have a problem like that. The game looks amazing on PS4 compared to how it looks on PS3. PS3 version looked like someone smeared grease on the screen after I first played the PS4 version.

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Originally Posted by kaptainpancake69

PS3 released in 2006 with 512 megs of RAM. Modern $200 phones come with 2 gigs. The PS3 is weaker than a modern high end phone, nevermind a PC of any sorts that came out in the last 7-8 years.

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I mean, it's not like Sony knew FFXIV was coming to PS3 during the console's development.

Ending PS3 support absolutely frees up resources for SE. First off it's an additional platform that needs some level of custom code developed for it for every lower level functional change. PS3 and PS4 are not compatible code-wise and there has to be some level of platform specific development occurring.

Additionally the minimum support spec always holds back software development particularly for graphically intensive software. In this case not having to work around the PS3 memory and graphics restrictions will also free up some development and quality/testing resources.

PS4 will likely still be viable for some time. Although it is only at this point equivalent to a low to mid level desktop pc it is optimized for playing video games and so has more capability in this regard than a pc of equivalent specs. It is also running a more efficient, less background intensive OS than windows. So in this respect with PS3 gone it is low end PCs that are now holding the game back (even with increased requirements for these).

Finally, all of this only frees up the opportunity for SE to use these resources in developing further enhancements for FFXIV. What they actually do with this is of course up to them and may have no impact on our game.

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Originally Posted by Lone-wolfe-02

I'm just saying most of them are like that.

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Gotta have some kind of information to back up a claim like that, or else you're just generalizing. Especially since a good chunk of pc people, own a console as well.

"I'm not generalizing, but have you ever noticed how awful PC players are in general?" Wew lad

Alright calm down, i was generalizing, it's just this thread it's not very nice you know to belittle the ps3 players for the system they play on.

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Originally Posted by Lone-wolfe-02

It's just PC players being PC players, as a console player you get used to their superiority attitude as it's the only way they can feel that way.

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i wouldn't be surprised if half the people belittling them are PS4 players anyway

there's really no reason to still be using a 10 year old machine to play an actively growing online game, people have had like what 4-5 years? to save up 300$

it sucks for console players i guess but thats just part of life, eventually people need to move on from old things