Eh, while I don't necessarily love or hate it, I do find it annoying. Then again, I go out of my way to have a lore-friendly name, so yeah.
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Eh, while I don't necessarily love or hate it, I do find it annoying. Then again, I go out of my way to have a lore-friendly name, so yeah.
Nope :D I couldn't find an actual last name for her, so I went with my next favorite thing, which happens to be Japanese culture. I've never once thought it sounded weird, and I haven't had anyone come up to me saying "Why would you pick that name?! That obviously doesn't go together." This is a fantasy game, everyone is free to pick whatever silly/dumb/anime name they want. If you wanna silently judge then that's fine (who doesn't do that?), but idk if making a thread to complain about names is necessary.
Why not instead talk about why someone is using the name they have? One of those Kirito's may have chosen that name because the show meant a lot to them in some deep way. Who knows.
I haven't watched an anime since interstellar 5555 was cool, but I can't berate someone for putting more thought into their character name than choosing two songs that played back 2 back on their iTunes like I did
Lol, I guess you really have a problem with my character huh :P You are free to judge, can't stop that. I don't feel the need to base my entire character off her; I liked her name and she is a female archer, so tada.
Again, fantasy game, and in this fantasy game I wanna be a catgirl. :D
I actually give people who managed to get the name a nod of approval from my side of the screen. If they butcher it, I'm a little less impressed.
My names are either a name I happened to like ((My Alt Richard, though I was watching Gilmore Girls the first time I named him darn near a decade ago.)) Or just a string of sylables I've thrown together because they sound good to my ear. ((Richard's last name "Lethain" or both parts of my main's name.))
Indeed. Whether jaded, salty people believe it or not, there are a lot of people for whom some story elements in SAO really touch them. Actually SAO has several elements that hit me, not least of which is Kirito and Asuna sitting together at the end of the Ancrad arc, watching Aincrad dissappear, as they also disappear from that world.
For me personally, that resonates because my wife and I stayed online all night saying good by to all our guild mates & friends in White Knight Chronicles 2 when that game was sadly terminated. We sat and watched the water in a stream flowing through my wife's Georama (town), listening to the birdsong that was part of the environment, and watching the cherry blossom fall; waiting for the servers to die. Sony/Level5/D3 had decided in their wisdom to quite abruptly kill the game after less than 2 years of life. We'd invested so much time and effort into our guild and playing that game with our friends, that when it was suddenly taken away, it was a real sense of loss and pain. Watching Kirito and Asuna struggle with the end of Aincrad, knowing that it meant the end of the world they'd lived in together, for years, just brings it all back to me - as does writing this.
For that matter, there are many who find the back stories in other shows/games moving too. For example, KOS-MOS & Shion from Xenosaga - I could write an entire dissertation on what those characters mean to me, and how they illuminate my life.
Another good example would be Idom@ster, a game/Anime no one would ever believe could have real emotion or meaning. Watch it, pay attention to Chihaya's story. Every person I know who's watched the IdolM@ster anime is moved by her story, most to tears or at least damp eyes...
The point is that Anime (and other media) characters have special meaning to individual people, they resonate with something in that person's experience. So Why does anyone feel a need to critique a character name chosen by another player?
If anything, understanding where a player's name comes from, gives us some insight into their personality.
Kosmos was my character in White Knight Chronicles 1 & 2 and was clearly and intentionally a tribute to KOS-MOS from Xenosaga. I always have an Alt character called Shion Uzuki as well. When WKC2 was taken from us myself, my wife and our friends made Eorzea our new home, and after playing Kosmos for so many hours in WKC, I simply couldn't bear to let Kosmos die with WKC. So, Kosmos was reborn in Eorzea, as was Shion. ...and now you know the rest of the story.
While we're talking about it, my problem with your character is actually that you chose to name her after someone who wasn't in the source canon. Her character is an insertion into an already fleshed out and complete universe by someone who had little to no grasp of the author's intent for the story. Therefore, I find her cheap, trashy and out-of-place. So that's what I think of when I see your name.
But whatever. Basically inconsequential to me.
To be perfectly honest, I wish people would not name their characters like that.
Unless you truly identify with the anime character, I would want people to choose names that are more fitting on who they are, what they care about. Maybe a name that you always thought sounded really cool that wasn't from an anime or anything, just you.
Adds a little more spice to the character you create.
The point is that Anime (and other media) characters have special meaning to individual people, they resonate with something in that person's experience. So Why does anyone feel a need to critique a character name chosen by another player?
If it's so inconsequential, why are you so insulting about their name?
Why? What does it matter to you? If they choose some lore accurate 'name' where the name fit's the rules of lore but is otherwise meaningless and difficult to pronounce or type, is it really any different to picking an anime character to name your avatar for? Really, what does it matter to you? It's their choice, why can't you just respect that and move on?
Insulting others because of their choice of name is what the thread is about? Really?
I just *don't* see that in the original post;
I could have sworn it was more asking people who have used an anime character as inspiration to list their chaacter(s) and source reference, and possibly, by implication, why they chose them. Oh, and asking them to be friends if they share the same server as the OP. Definitely nothing about being judgmental and insulting.
Wow. O.O Who would have thought someone could dislike a made up character so much. If that's your opinion, fine. I really don't understand why people are getting so riled up about a NAME. Lol. I'm an avid lover of all things LOTR and Hobbit, even if they are not original characters from the books. We're all having a respectful discussion here; you're not better than anyone else just because your name follows lore...and honestly to say that my character is cheap and trashy is very rude and hurtful...even if she is made up. So congrats on being the first naming convention elitist jerk on the forums.
When did I say I was better than anyone else?
Sure, it wasn't in the OP but this is general discussion, and people started talking about preferences. These are mine. And I'm allowed to have them.
FTR, because I don't like your character's name doesn't mean anything about YOU. I've never met you and thus I don't have an opinion about you. No need to take everything so personally.
I'm also an avid lover of LOTR, which is precisely why I don't like Tauriel. She doesn't fit and I personally find her insertion distracting.
Also, a different way to look at this is an FYI about what people might think of when they see your (or anyone's name). It's for your knowledge. Heck, if people didn't like my name for whatever reason it's not a stretch to think I might want to know.
Can we go back to the jokey anime name discussion now and leave the personal insults behind, before this thread ends up locked or silently deleted? I can understand why roleplayers prefer lore-friendly names for immersion, of course, but since there is no such thing as an official roleplaying server it's inevitable that other people will be playing for their own, perfectly valid reasons and not be so worried about fitting in. Not everyone roleplays. Not everyone loves a particular anime or book series in the exact same way another person expresses their passion. Not everyone comes from a culture where everyone has uniform names, either (my real first name, middle name and surname are each from different languages, and I hope nobody finds that offensive in the real world because I'm not changing them).
Yep, you're entitled to your thoughts. Doesn't mean you have the right to be rude. Also, it's not unusual for people playing a game like this to become attached to their character. Just remember that the next time you insult someone's character, there's a real person behind them. People should stop being so quick to judge someone based off something so simple as a name; you might be losing out on meeting someone interesting or creating a new friendship. But that's me. No matter what your name is, if you come say hi to me, I'm gonna chat with you :)
...no one made that kind of thread?
This is a thread about anime names, that's all. The basic question that started it all was "Does your character have an anime name?" and most people ended up answering some form of "No, because I generally dislike it".
That's how discussions are, you are free to stick to whatever you like, but you can't expect everyone to be totally supportive of it and like it too.
If I make a thread asking "Hey, are you all into roleplaying?" I can't expect every answer to be "Yeah, totally, and my character is xyz! :D", instead I'd probably get a lot of "Nah, roleplaying isn't my thing but if people enjoy it, good for them, I guess?"-answers and maybe even a few "Honestly, it bothers me when they do that in general chat/makes me uncomfortable/etc." type of answers.
No reason to feel it is a personal attack. You put your name out there as an example so I naturally used it to explain what I see wrong with names like these.
And again, I'd never bother anyone about their name ingame. I know a handful of Rinoas, a Noctis, one Uzumaki and one Asuna. They are all great people. Maybe you are as well, after all, I don't know you.
I never talked to them about their names, but that doesn't mean that I don't have an opinion on it. I kind of assumed a thread which is meant to talk about these kinds of names was a place where I could honestly say that I dislike them, but somehow that's already considered an insult..?
Which doesn't mean nobody ever thought it.
Like pretty much everyone in this thread who expressed their dislike for these types of names said, it's basically just a slight annoyance, something you just live with. It would be rude and unnecessary to confront anyone with that. But it doesn't mean that everyone you know doesn't judge your name in some way just because they never said anything.
(again, your name is an example because you brought it up as one. There are many that I consider much, much worse)
Btw, why do I get 2 seperate answers? xD
I'm not under the impression that I was. Honest, perhaps. You disagree with me, that doesn't make me rude.
I never insulted your character. I said that the name makes me think of a character that I found trashy and cheap. I never said your character was trashy and cheap. Nor did I say YOU were. You're reading a lot into what I said.
Never said I wouldn't do this either. You're really putting a lot of words into my mouth, which is way more rude than anything I ever said to you.
I just read what you wrote, nothing more. And I was only simply stating what *I* do, had nothing to do with how you interact with other players. I didn't say anything that you hadn't already wrote. Do you really believe quoting someone and then insulting that name doesn't equate to insulting that character? I don't see how that is not rude. But we can just disagree and the thread can get back on topic. Tbh I was always shy about posting on forums and whatnot and always just enjoyed reading them, and only recently got the courage to start posting. Guess I'm gonna go back to just reading.
P.S. Thanks for sticking up, Kos. <3
Yes. If I'm 100% honest with myself I can see how someone who was very emotionally invested in this video game might make that kind of a leap. But it really doesn't follow, because it's all just a matter of taste. For example, if someone said my character's name was uncreative because I followed naming convention I would shrug and think, "eh, to each his own," and move on with my life.
In response to this, I would like to encourage you to continue to post on the forums, but only if you can handle people disagreeing with you. There is never going to be a time when everyone agrees with everything you say all the time. Some people are going to give constructive criticism. Other people people may even be confrontational. There's no way around that.
Another thought: you might consider not putting forth something as personal to you as your name for an example. People have a tendency to critique examples given. Honestly, if you hadn't put your own name forward I wouldn't have commented on it at all.
I feel like I could post "I like pizza" and you people would critique that statement. The fact that your even critiquing a name is kinda hilarious since it's so arbitrary. If you think there are no unique names then you should tell that to the 10,000 Jon's in this world or people named for other people. I just find it funny how the post can start with "I like anime names cause it's easy to find friends" to i hate it when people do that. New forum thread name: Debbie Downers. Hahaha
True story.
FTR, if the thread was called, "who here likes pizza," I would expect some people to come to the thread and post, "I really hate pizza." Seems logical, honestly. I'm not the first person to do that in this thread, either.
It's a discussion forum. That's what I was doing: discussing. Sorry.
Actually there are over four million people in the US alone with the first name "John" so you're so obliviously wrong it's comical. That aside, I understand the idea that you want to pay homage (or whatever) to something you like. It immediately identifies you to others as a 'fan' of a particular series or game. People will immediately recognize a Kirito as a fan of Sword Art Online, for instance. A name gives you insight into a player, albeit relatively shallow. That being said, anyone with anime names I automatically assume is like 15. To be fair, though, I do dislike when you see a bunch of random cat people running around with the names of iconic Final Fantasy characters. I mean, at least try to make them look like the character you stole the name from, people.
Well it WOULD be a problem if, for example, I went up to every Kirito I saw and said to them "SAO is an awful anime why do you like it"
...but I don't because, that's not productive for anyone. I'd just roll my eyes and keep moving.
In real life, do I see someone named like, Caytlyn for example or some other crazy name with Y's in it that don't need it, and go "why did your parents want to be special snowflakes?" Of course not. That'd be dumb, and that's not how you make friends.
More like people sorta need to get over it. Pretty sure my first response was more like "I don't like it but oh well". I think that's what most people are saying.
Nah, don't go back to reading. My take on this is that KaitlanKela didn't like getting called out for being rude and insulting and is reacting in a fairly immature manner by doubling down on their conduct. It's kind of sad to see KaitlanKela trying the "I never insulted you" defense despite the fact that they did in fact insult your character directly.
Replying specifically to you and saying of the character name you chose to use;
Precisely why Kaitlan feels it's appropriate or necessary to continue along this line with you I am not sure.Quote:
"I find her cheap, trashy and out-of-place. So that's what I think of when I see your name."
Kaitlan, I don't care how you personally want to rationalize this one, you should at least have the guts to accept accountability for your words. What you wrote was directly insulting to the character name that Tairiel has chosen to use, based on your personal opinions of the author that brought that character name to a completely separate fictional world. Finishing it off with "So that's what I think of when I see your character name" simply extends your insulting thought to Tauriel's character. So, yeah, you did insult Tauriel, whether you want to accept responsibility or not. Wouldn't it be easier to simply accept that you have insulted someone, even if that was not your intent, and back down? Contrition is a vastly underrated trait in today's society.
Any time. Forums can be very unfriendly places. This one can become very 'salty' (the currently popular euphemism used to describe flames on this forum). However, if you enjoy playing FFXIV, and love your character, then don't allow one or two people to in effect bully you from the forum. Much like the game, this forum has a 'blacklist' feature for a reason...
Now, I'm sorry to be making this post considering how stupidly derailed this topic already is, but I feel I need to say this.
The OP's topic was about people who chose anime character names for their avatar in FFXIV, and asking those on the same server to friend them. Sounds like a nice happy go-lucky topic. But, at least two posters have taken it upon themselves to be some kind of character naming convention enforcement force arguing with using such names; arguing that names of characters are somehow out of place because they violate all manner of naming lore. In particular, one player who paired a fictional Middle Earth name with a real Japanese word, has come under fairly heavy criticism for their choice of name. Apparently pairing a fictional name with a Japanese word for modern day archery is somehow jarring or inappropriate. Considering the number of names in all languages that are based on root words such as this, or names that are literally the word that describes the role (Smith, Carpenter, Fisher, Bowman, Joiner, etc...), I can't see any argument that says using Kyudo or Kyudoka would be inappropriate.
Folks, that's not what this topic is about. Nor did anyone invite criticism of their choice in name. Sure it's a public forum and you're posting your opinions, but let's not stretch the truth too much here, such as was done when saying that the insulting critique of a character's name was what the topic was about. If you somehow gain that idea from the OP, I would have to question your reading skills, and no, I'm not trying to be insulting, I mean literally, if you gain that meaning from the OP, you really don't understand what was written.
Now, just for shits and giggles, let's just drop the OP in here, and restart the discussion where people with names from anime characters are not going to get critiqued on their choice, and people just have fun. OK?
No I agree. I think it's completely CRAZY for people to name characters of a Japanese role playing animated game after Japanese animated characters. pssst. Sarcasm. That's why I'll pick aaaaag dbsishssh as my next character. It's unique. The point is I couldn't care less, but the fact is "rolling your eyes" at anyone for a name they have is crazy and pretty much the definition of prejudice. I really hope the next yuuki you meet you roll your eyes and say oh. It's pIzza guy.
High five anyone? Anyone? No? Another let down yuuki...
Wait ok for the high five or.... no?
My opinion was 100% disdainful, you're right. No sarcasm. I have nothing but disgust for the character Tauriel.
The reason I'm not backing down is because it is my meaningless opinion. It only has as much weight as Tauriel or you decided to give it. She chose to take it really personally and get offended. As I've said before, I don't know her so how could I have an opinion on her? I haven't even met her in game, so how could I judge if she's a good player or not? I can't and I didn't. All I said was that I don't like that name as I associate it with tacky audience-pandering on the part of Peter Jackson.
I also won't apologize for expressing my opinion, as much as one might disagree, on a forum that's purpose is discussion and the expressing of opinions. You can claim that I was rude all day long, but I strongly disagree. From where I'm standing I expressed my opinion and you didn't like it so you automatically jumped to attacking my character.
If you're going to get this thread back "on topic" re: anime names, I'll show myself out. I had nothing more to add than I don't like them. Again, I only opined on Tauriel's name because she presented it, coupled with the fact that there was an ongoing discussion about it.
I think everyone named yuuki is awesome and I always give them a high five. Cause anime names are awesome. As are the hobbit names. Or any names.
I thought this was going to be a thread for making fun of anime character names. I was disappointed.
As a writer, I don't think I'll see eye to eye with anyone using an anime character's name (or any pop cultural reference, really) for their own... but I also recognize it's just a game and people will do whatever they feel like doing. I imagine there's a lot of people who have little to no attachment to their character and just wanted to jump in and play, so they used the random name generator, or thought something along the lines of "I like X person from Y anime/manga/video game, so I'll use their name!"
That aside, I know a couple who played as Shiro and Sora Veda, and they lead the Blank FC. I'm kinda glad that they're not around anymore because they always remind me how badly I want a second season of NGNL.
Whoa now just because people name thier character after an anime doesn't mean they are not attached to it. If I name my son or daughter after me it doesn't mean I'm not attached to them. All names have a purpose and uniqueness to them. I'm not saying those people don't exist but you can't generalize like that.
You...have no idea what prejudice means. You also don't seem to understand that country of origin and something that makes narrative sense aren't the same thing. or that uniqueness isn't the point. And frankly, I doubt very strongly I would care what any Haseo or Kirito's opinion of me is. I'd give you a high five if you had any valid points, or something to say other than that you're salty because the thread isn't a circle-jerk that mirrors your opinion on the matter.
Right because pre-judging and forming an opinion of something isn't what it means. And your right because the narrative makes absolutely no sense when an anime name is used. Game ruined.
It sounds exaggerated when people talk about it like this, but I don't think anyone really gives it more than half a second's thought. It's just that if you adopt the name of a fictional character you like then it just seems strange that you are butchering their personality and concept by throwing them into a random universe that has nothing to do with them whatsoever and then playing them off as an obedient hero of everything. I doubt anyone really cares but merely just find it to be a really bizarre choice for what's supposed to be your own character, particularly if you follow any part of the game's dialogue and story with even just a mild interest. It's simply one of those pet peeves that people have, nothing more than that I imagine.
That said, I people watch a fair bit too because I often don't know what to do when I log in unless my friend is around, so I have plenty of opportunity to see other players myself when I am bouncing around Ul'dah. Albeit what bothers me... what really, really... REALLY bothers me, is when I spot someone with a similar glamour and/or character to my own. That ****ing drives me insane. In the most recent case, someone had almost the exact same Au Ra as me with only slight colour variations and it bothered me enough to check if they had any presence online, and sure enough, because it's Balmung, they had a Tumblr and I discovered it was one of those flavour-of-the-month players who likes to change their appearance regularly with vastly different hairstyles, colours, makeup and even at one point, had fantasia'd over from a Raen. Sure enough, I had designed my character and glamour before they made the change so that made me feel better - simply because my character was more fresh and I worried that I was the clone in this instance(even if unwittingly).
Yes. I take aesthetics and glamour design very seriously!!11!1
I don't see the big deal about anime/video game/book/etc names being used. I actually love seeing people who manage to snag a great name and go all out glamouring their character to look like their namesake, it's like cosplay! Sure the Kirito and Haseo names get a little silly sometimes, but at that point I have to admire their dedication to being named after a character that they'll think of the most crazy ways to accomplish it.
Then again, I named my character after a tree so I have no room to criticize anyone's name...