You forgot the most important:Quote:
Originally Posted by Aion
0. Come to the forums, preferably having a level 50 character already, and bitch about not being able to solo in the same way you did before at lower levels when dLvl was the king and equipment was there for shits and giggles without actual purpose. Include the impossibility of acquiring gear even with new, significantly simplified recipes, NPC sellable mats and lots of money making possibilities for new players.
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10-07-2011, 03:27 PMBetelgeuzah
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10-07-2011, 03:28 PMAkayoAkayu
Leves = solo leveling
regular leveling is meant to be for parties and it is encouraged to do so. also, you aren't meant to kill stuff above your level if you do decide to solo, youre meant to kill stuff thats your level.
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10-07-2011, 03:29 PMBetelgeuzah
More like leves = way for fighters to get money, crafters and gatherers to level.
At least for me, leves have been a great source of gil, a so-so source of EXP thus far. That's coo'. -
10-07-2011, 03:32 PMXooInteresting. Can you tell me where I might find a static group of mobs that all range from 1-50?Quote:
Originally Posted by AkayoAkayu
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10-07-2011, 03:35 PMBetelgeuzahAre you serious? The areas around camps are full of hotspots for leveling. I've done sheeps, chigoes, puks so far. There's literally two dozens of mobs, of 2-3 levels apart in each spot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xoo
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10-07-2011, 03:43 PMXatshMobs are relative to the location in this patch more or less.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xoo
Outside the city are mobs for level 1s
Near the first camp are mobs for level 3-5s
Between camp 1 and 2 are mobs for levels 6-9
At camp 2 are mobs for 10-14ish
slightly off the beaten patch are mobs for 15-19
Mobs are spawning in about 3 level intervals it seems randomly. This patch made the problem of finding mobs at the right level in the right density a thing of the past. -
10-08-2011, 12:55 AMReaujienThere are a few good player-based guides/threads on the forums already. A simple search will show them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xoo
Also, if you have trouble using and/or finding guides, why not just explore until you find something? With 1.19 the xp earned from different types of mobs has been more streamlined - that is, you don't have to worry about not fighting MobTypeA over MobTypeB solely for the fact that one of them simply gives more xp than the other by default. Now, you just have to concern yourself with finding mobs that are a) within your desired level range, and b) are lucrative for w/e party setup you have at the time to "xp" off of them. -
10-08-2011, 05:34 AMSestenes
1.19 seems like a sweet patch to me. I think 14 is finally getting cleaned up and fun. Just my opinion. MMO's are supposed to be about interacting with other players...
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10-08-2011, 05:38 AMSputnik
LOL QUIT BYE
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11-03-2011, 11:32 AMKhal_DrogoIt's a shame how nonchalant your response is to this post, given that you, unwittingly, disagreed completely with what the OP was trying to get across to everyone. If SE was TRYING to make XI-2, then AoE spam, Cure spam, and button-smashing wouldn't be a **core** part of the battle system, as it is now. The problem with this game right now is that there are so many ignorant people, like yourself, out there that refuse to acknowledge how good XI is/was; and because of that community's irrational "hatred" of XIV's predecessor, anything to do with FFXI is considered "taboo" around the SE "drawing table." Sure, they may have made a couple of compromises here and there, but for the most part, SE is trying their best to distinguish XIV from XI.Quote:
Originally Posted by TunaTime
Unfortunately, all they end up doing is failing at two games, instead of succeeding at one. XI's battle system is the one that requires skill and strategy, not XIV. And it is XIV's battle system that has been an onslaught of endless spam since day 1, not XI. Get your facts straight dude...and please keep your unhelpful, anti-XI bs comments to yourself. Was XI perfect? Hell no...not even close. However, XIV isn't even close to on par with XI, and even, I (a die-hard XI fan), despised a great deal of the XI content. SE needs to embrace the good from XI, and bring it to the table for XIV before they bankrupt their company with this failure of a game.
And, by the way, I never did it much myself, so I don't remember how good the exp/hr was, but I thought it was a really innovative way to solo: in XI, you could find high lvl mobs that "tugged" high-lvl pets around. They had extremely low hp, but were still high lvl mobs, so you could get the same exp from them as normal mobs if you knew which to fight. And it was very challenging trying to pull a pet w/o it's master seeing and following...and a lot of fun. There's nothing challenging about hordes of monsters linking with one another for no reason, sleeping them, and then spamming them in various moves one by one 'til all 3428342 of them are dead....
It feels like halo w/ swords...gotta empty 3 damn "clips" into something just for it to die. WSs should be like "rocket launchers" -massive dmg, "tide-turning" occurrences. No more of this 3000 tp in 5 seconds crap, and then losing it all in less time than it took to gain it. I remember going into fights w/ "300% tp" in XI b/c it could be the difference in winning a fight, or getting owned in one....there's nothing satisfying about battles in XIV. -
11-03-2011, 02:33 PMAistarainaCongratulations on necroing a 1 month old thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Khal_Drogo
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11-03-2011, 03:36 PMBearforcea typical response from a fanboy. XI is hardly a good game example taken from. while lvling you do not use SC in exp party,s . you do not use SC at all in endgame-sky. sea at all. endgame BCNM party's do not need theif's because of their low damage and the con list goes on. now when abbysea released,Yoshida made every weapon available at hand to fix issues about class balance,s making drops that easier if you hit the weakpoint of a certain pop item Nm. iam sure why Yoshida went interviews around the world based on the majority and not the *mindless sheep* who defend the game vehemently saying its a *good game*. the picture we saw for V2.0 is far from being FFXI-2.Quote:
Originally Posted by Khal_Drogo
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11-03-2011, 03:45 PMRedAffinity
wild enemies are more suited for party groups while leves are more solo friendly.
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11-03-2011, 03:59 PMAgoven
Really another...ANOTHER one of these.
Can't we just fight mobs our own level?
Same level as you enemy gives like 350-500 XP.
Pre-patch enemy same level as you kill get 50-90 SP. An enemy 10 levels above you was also easier to kill then an enemy now at your level and gave you 250 SP. So NOW you WIN!!! more XP!!
The only difference is now they make you kill things your level...and the other difference is it gives you more XP. So um...the only thing different is it's easier to level now if you kill things AT YOUR LEVEL. -
11-03-2011, 04:09 PMXoo
Revisiting this thread, I'd like to touch up 1 month later. At or near level 30, solo EXP does get a sufficient boost. Why couldn't we have the same rate at all levels? After experiencing PL and the workings of a good party, EXP is comparable depending on your ability to keep the chain. Though it is just a personal preference, I still would much rather have some strategy and control in a party rather than a balls-to-the-wall approach.
Playing CON and THM in a raptor party last night, I found it very difficult to keep up with what was sometimes two groups of people fighting four to five different mobs. Also, as many of the rest of you may have found, mobs don't link at all when there is but one person 'pulling'. I don't understand if this is intentional - as we were meant to take on mobs at the earliest onset of the 10-level cap and reinstate old party mechanics and customs? If a group were to try on an enemy with 3 links, which is 8-10 levels above them, they'd almost surely be doomed. The way I've seen it played thus far is closer to a 5 level gap between enemy and player as we gallop across the camp killing everything in sight.
Playing Gladiator at level 30, I realized just how difficult it is to keep multiple mobs off the rest of the party. War Drum is helpful, but if spam is the way this game was intended to be played, then we need more group hate control. -
11-03-2011, 04:10 PMXooWhat level are you? Because it does make a difference on EXP gain.Quote:
Originally Posted by Agoven
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11-03-2011, 04:41 PMindirathey havent every game since EQ1 its the same thing grind, quest, hit cap then raid/craft on the side. evolution i think not just graphics got better but thats just obvious.Quote:
Looks like SE want's to make FFXI-II. A shame really seeing how MMO's evolved since FFXI.
everygame from wow too now has been nothing but a button masher and bum rush the bosses with all you attacks. good ol'days of ffxi you have to play smart or your fighting 1mob forever or your wipeing. -
11-04-2011, 08:52 AMKhal_Drogolol sry, that wasn't my intention, but I did a search for materia threads, and somehow this one came up in the list. I saw the title, and it seemed interesting, so I started reading further, then saw that one dude's post about XIV being "XI-2;" and attributing XIV's current "failure" to that association. So, I felt that it was my duty to set 'em straight :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Aistaraina
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11-04-2011, 09:00 AMKhal_DrogoAmen to that....you summed it up pretty well. This game is just turning into more mindless button smashing, and every patch since day 1 has failed to address this one MAJOR flaw. Hell, the strategy in the Ifrit fight is to *NOT* button smash (aka: play your class incorrectly), so that you'll have ample time to get out of the way of his special moves. I can't tell you how annoying it is to have to watch efficiency get thrown completely out the window b/c I'm fighting a boss that is designed to undermine the mechanics of this CRAPPY-A#@ excuse of a battle system. I would love the Ifrit fight, if it weren't for the battle system.Quote:
Originally Posted by indira
I mean, FFS, you even have to spam BUFFS. This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen...can you imagine playing other FF titles and you had to waste a turn RECASTING the same buff you already gave yourself? and, no, not cuz the monster got rid of it....because it only last .00000003 sec lol <.<
YES, I'm exaggerating....so, kill me. 30 minute BUFFS -YES, PLEASE.