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Originally Posted by Nep_Nep

Standard - Free
Gold - 10.00
Platinum - ...20.00?

I dunno I can't see it being that big. But then again I've never gotten married in an mmo before. xD

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Isn't Platinum a whole set of gear and a mount? Going by current items a mount alone is what $25?

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Originally Posted by Akuryu

So lets take bets on wedding costs. Platinum wedding: over or under $50? I'm betting over.

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Over. It gives a two person mount and a minion, with a prettier dress. One mount alone is $25, but it happens to be a 2 person mount. The only way to get one of these is getting a friend to buy the game and pay for a 90-day suscription, which doesn't cost less than 50 bucks.

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Originally Posted by Nep_Nep

Standard - Free
Gold - 10.00
Platinum - ...20.00?

I dunno I can't see it being that big. But then again I've never gotten married in an mmo before. xD

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Keep in mind that Sleipnir mount is $24 all by itself. The platinum wedding is coming with a mount and much much more.

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Originally Posted by DragonSlayer45

Artisan's Cross-pein Hammer Darksteel Hooka 50 → 10

o.O

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10 hooker lol

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Originally Posted by Squintina

Ecc...

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Not really. For what it concerns crafting the lower cost of the materials on the broker is already a nerf. Regarding Coil/Primals is basically the same, the basic progression of the gear (Allagan Tomestones) is a nerf of all the previous fights. "Hard content" has to be a challenge, a challenge has to be an obstacle to overcome. Players trying to do Coil and the Trials EX should enjoy themself by breaking these walls, like with sports. If you keep lowering the difficulty of the game, making radical modifications, you will definitely get troubles later on... those "New Players" will never be at the same level of the rest because of their previous experience. All of this will also harm the player base in the endgame. You don't know how many times I saw farm parties in T7 being able to kill Melusine, after the 2.4 patch, just thanks to the nerfs Square Enix applied.

Edit: Can't include the quote to your post because of the maximum characters limit on the forum.

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Originally Posted by MartaDemireux

Isn't Platinum a whole set of gear and a mount? Mount alone is what $25?

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Oh guess it will be really expensive then. XD oops. I guess 50 or more to it would sound right.
Maybe 60 or 70 bucks.

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Each player will now receive a piece of diamond dust upon completion of Akh Afah Amphitheatre (Extreme).

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Japanese patch notes:

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極シヴァ討滅戦において、コンプリート時に「氷神の氷晶」がドロップするようになります。
Diamond Dust now drops upon completion of Akh Afah Amphitheatre (Extreme)

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So which is it? English patch notes make it sound too good to be true.

My guess is $90 for platinum....or something around that. It'll be a ridiculous price for a MMO wedding, either way.

I hope not but I expect the worse so I wont be disappointed.

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Originally Posted by Karen_Cerfrumos

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So which is it? English patch notes make it sound too good to be true.

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Personally my money is on the japanese one. It sounds like they're repeating levi's mirror drops as opposed to just throwing them out like candy.

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Originally Posted by Karen_Cerfrumos

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Translation and highlight is mine.
So which is it? English patch notes make it sound too good to be true.

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Hopefully it'll be like the mirrors in Leviathan ex post-buff.

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Originally Posted by Tsukotaku

Not really.
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All of this will also harm the player base in the endgame. You don't know how many times I saw farm parties in T7 being able to kill Melusine, after the 2.4 patch, just thanks to the nerfs Square Enix applied.

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That just means they didn't nerf T7 at the right pace. Imagine if all T's were as hard as they always were. Thanks to older players wanting to move on to newer content, newer players still trying to clear older content would end up hopelessly trying to catch up. The same applies to crafting. It has to have its progression nerfed too - it just means they shouldn't nerf it again for a while. This one is enough for now.

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Originally Posted by KuraiKiserogeru

Relic: Question is, will it shine!

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This stage will propably lose it just like Atma and final one will bring it back, i mean this cannot be final stage yet as it ended just being ilvl125. Tbh its kinda wierd that it already didnt match with augmentet IW weapons, maybe it gets "hotfix" when tomes/upgrade items will start to drop from CT3 as othervise it would huge middlefinger for all relic grinders, and final stage will mostlikely make it on par with Dreadwyrms just before expansion.

They need to nerf the earlier Relic quest stages and make them easier. Especially the ridiculous Novus stage with the materia requirements. Come on Squenix, what the hell.

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Originally Posted by Illya

They need to nerf the earlier Relic quest stages and make them easier. Especially the ridiculous Novus stage with the materia requirements. Come on Squenix, what the hell.

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Unfortunately they kinda can't nerf that part specifically, maybe increase ways to get Alexandrite or lower the costs of them. Though I can imagine them doing something with the requirements for the books.

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Originally Posted by Karen_Cerfrumos

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Translation and highlight is mine.
So which is it? English patch notes make it sound too good to be true.

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I always refer to the JP notes. It will be 100% drop but all 8 players will fight for it.

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Originally Posted by Ooshima

I always refer to the JP notes. It will be 100% drop but all 8 players will fight for it.

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Yeah that's what it sounds like going by the Japanese notes.

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Originally Posted by Keisatsu

Unfortunately they kinda can't nerf that part specifically, maybe increase ways to get Alexandrite or lower the costs of them. Though I can imagine them doing something with the requirements for the books.

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If they want to eventually make it easier they could by making you not need as many Materia. Make it for example, where instead of having to add a certain number of I/II/III/IV Materia per stat, you just have to add as an example, 5-10 of DET Materia (and they can still be the cheap ones) but you still get the maximum amount of DET. It just automatically adds it like with the books.

Alternatively (which would make people rage, I'm sure) they could crash the market by making you able to obtain the Materia through tomes or something.

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Originally Posted by Silverharp

I just got my GSM 70 mainhand like 3 days ago! lol
Spend all day mining gold ore and making the nuggets

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I'm so sorry Grein :c

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Originally Posted by AlphaDragoon

If they want to eventually make it easier they could by making you not need as many Materia. Make it for example, where instead of having to add a certain number of I/II/III/IV Materia per stat, you just have to add certain amount. Like, you need 5-10 of DET Materia (and they can still be the cheap ones) but you still get the maximum amount of DET. It just automatically adds it like with the books.

Alternatively (which would make people rage, I'm sure) they could crash the market by making you able to obtain the Materia through tomes or something.

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Keep in mind they do want to retain some level of fair-ness with people who've already done it. Just saying it wouldn't be fair to those who paid full price. Though increasing ways to get alex (Whether it be % increase in Fate drop, or price reductions) would still keep to the fair-ness and making it easier on those that have been left behind or perhaps working on a second / third relic, etc.

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Originally Posted by AlphaDragoon

If they want to eventually make it easier they could by making you not need as many Materia. Make it for example, where instead of having to add a certain number of I/II/III/IV Materia per stat, you just have to add as an example, 5-10 of DET Materia (and they can still be the cheap ones) but you still get the maximum amount of DET. It just automatically adds it like with the books.

Alternatively (which would make people rage, I'm sure) they could crash the market by making you able to obtain the Materia through tomes or something.

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I guess they could shorten it by letting the chests drop 2? Would be drastically shorter though. Maybe just a 50% chance to drop 2 maybe.

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Originally Posted by Synestra

This stage will propably lose it just like Atma and final one will bring it back, i mean this cannot be final stage yet as it ended just being ilvl125. Tbh its kinda wierd that it already didnt match with augmentet IW weapons, maybe it gets "hotfix" when tomes/upgrade items will start to drop from CT3 as othervise it would huge middlefinger for all relic grinders, and final stage will mostlikely make it on par with Dreadwyrms just before expansion.

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The new stage likely to stay i125 in order to keep the alternating upgrade path.

Nexus -> IW -> Legendary Relic -> AIW -> Legendary Relic +1/Dreadwyrm -> Heavensward Raid weapon

They don't want a repeat of 2.0 where people ignored T5 because they already have an i90 weapon and 2.3's calls of "Ignore the Relic just do ST and get an Unaligned Tomestone and Sands of Time."

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Originally Posted by Silverharp

I just got my GSM 70 mainhand like 3 days ago! lol
Spend all day mining gold ore and making the nuggets

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Well I just got it last week, my first ilvl 70 too from those 300 rose gold nugget I mining myself :( .

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Originally Posted by Keisatsu

Keep in mind they do want to retain some level of fair-ness with people who've already done it. Just saying it wouldn't be fair to those who paid full price. Though increasing ways to get alex (Whether it be % increase in Fate drop, or price reductions) would still keep to the fair-ness and making it easier on those that have been left behind or perhaps working on a second / third relic, etc.

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Ultimately though, without easing the Materia portion it will never be easier for other players to catch up because the Materia is the hurdle. Relics (with ideal stats) are a rich person's weapon as it stands.

I don't think they'd do something like that though until say, the expansion at minimum for the very reason you stated.

I know some people might not agree with this but they sort of already nerfed at least the Alexandrite portion of the relic grind. You can buy maps now for 400 Soldiery instead of 800 Mythology. Still a grind but easier now. In my experience, I'm getting bonus Soldiery tomes from all sorts of duties so its still really easy to get the required amount fast.

EDIT: I will say this though the materia portion is a little bit ridiculous. I'm sure it's this way on most servers but if you want to make a min/max best version of your weapon (at least for DPS) it costs a ton of money. And in fact, it used to be cheap to just meld accuracy on your weapon. Things like Acc 4's and Parry 4's were pretty cheap but now on my server everything is expensive.

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Originally Posted by Clarkamite

I know some people might not agree with this but they sort of already nerfed at least the Alexandrite portion of the relic grind. You can buy maps now for 400 Soldiery instead of 800 Mythology. Still a grind but easier now. In my experience, I'm getting bonus Soldiery tomes from all sorts of duties so its still really easy to get the required amount fast.

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Wasn't there some massive argument about how Myth tomes =/= 1/2 Sol tomes because Sol was harder to obtain? I swear I recall that somewhere..and I'm just waiting for the same people to show up and start that argument all over again.

Please, everyone, pay extra attention to this!

Known issues:
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Originally Posted by Keisatsu

Wasn't there some massive argument about how Myth tomes =/= 1/2 Sol tomes because Sol was harder to obtain? I swear I recall that somewhere..and I'm just waiting for the same people to show up and start that argument all over again.

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Maybe. I tend to stay out of the big pissing contests about whats harder to obtain/do. Personally I think Soldiery is pretty easy to obtain. I DO think it comes a little bit slower with some methods. Hunts being a good example. You still get the same Soldiery as you did before but since Soldiery is the new Mythology I guess that's sort of a nerf. Before one S rank hunt was 200 Mythology and now it's just 50 Soldiery. So I guess that is a little slower.

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Originally Posted by Akuryu

Keep in mind that Sleipnir mount is $24 all by itself. The platinum wedding is coming with a mount and much much more.

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That mount is also account-wide, though, and not per character as I suspect this one will be. So that's why the $10/$20 Gold/Premium they suggested on the stream may make sense.

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Originally Posted by AlphaDragoon

Ultimately though, without easing the Materia portion it will never be easier for other players to catch up because the Materia is the hurdle. Relics (with ideal stats) are a rich person's weapon as it stands.

I don't think they'd do something like that though until say, the expansion at minimum for the very reason you stated.

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That will likely happen with the introduction of equipment that converts in Tier IV/Tier V Materia.

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Originally Posted by Keisatsu

Unfortunately they kinda can't nerf that part specifically, maybe increase ways to get Alexandrite or lower the costs of them. Though I can imagine them doing something with the requirements for the books.

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My suggestion would simply be to remove the RNG aspect of the melding, and make every meld 100% succesful. That alone would already go a long way to easing up (and make fairer) the Novus step, IMHO.

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Originally Posted by LaurelinKementari

My suggestion would simply be to remove the RNG aspect of the melding, and make every meld 100% succesful. That alone would already go a long way to easing up (and make fairer) the Novus step, IMHO.

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Yes please...
Loosing 2 DET4 at 96 and 94% when i was doing my Thyrus was infuriating enough to stop me from getting any other relic past Animus, simply because of the Novus stage.

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Originally Posted by LaurelinKementari

My suggestion would simply be to remove the RNG aspect of the melding, and make every meld 100% succesful. That alone would already go a long way to easing up (and make fairer) the Novus step, IMHO.

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This might be a good suggestion, if what you're saying is remove the RNG aspect of melding on the scrolls. I've already completed 2 Novus' (working on second Nexus right now) and I probably won't be doing another so this wouldn't affect me at all but that would reduce costs significantly. On my server I believe it would cost 3.6 million gil to meld out just the Tier 4 of Determination assuming you never break one. So assuring that you'll never break one would go a long way. It probably wouldn't ease the suffering of a lot of those people out there without much gil to lean on but at least they could work towards something and never have to worry about spending time/money on something that ends up just breaking.

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Originally Posted by Clarkamite

Before one S rank hunt was 200 Mythology and now it's just 50 Soldiery.

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B ranks were the main reason why players got flooded with myths, 30myth from enemy that had rather short respawn time and there were multiple zones(bacially you were able to kill them non-stop)so there was almost always one up somwhere. Now that B's dont give tomes anymore SE could boost A and S ranks lil bit as those have alot longer respawn times compared to old B's, currently theres really no reason to do hunts if you are only after tomes and dont need allied seals.

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Originally Posted by 2.45 Patch Notes

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Wil i get diamond dust if I already cleared Shiva ex? Or do I have to do it again?

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Originally Posted by Keisatsu

Keep in mind they do want to retain some level of fair-ness with people who've already done it. Just saying it wouldn't be fair to those who paid full price. Though increasing ways to get alex (Whether it be % increase in Fate drop, or price reductions) would still keep to the fair-ness and making it easier on those that have been left behind or perhaps working on a second / third relic, etc.

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I'm not sure what fairness there will be left when everyone already knows that Heavensward will bring a gear reset. The Relic quest will probably start over at the expansion with a new weapon, or possibly use the final stage of the current Relic as it's base. Might as well let latecomers have the damn thing before Heavensward.

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Originally Posted by MartaDemireux

This...

Apocalypse (SMN?), Last Resort (SCH?) and Ragnarok (WAR).

I cannot accept Ragnarok as an axe! It should be DRK's since DRK will be using great swords. Apocalypse was also a DRK weapon... which means they won't be getting that again. Last Resort was a DRK ability as well so we know they won't be getting that again as well. =[

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I know your pain all to well : (
What is next, alexander as a summer resort ?
Why are you throwing away your past SE (siren, diablos and fenrir also)
To add to the suffering the new relics are realy ugly, i hope they give us the posibility to glamour a precedent step over this abberations.
Lately the art team leaves a lot to desire, look at the crap dreadwyrm equip. I hope in the last tier of crystal tower for something decent.