Soldiery/Myth Drop Rates

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Originally Posted by Deviant1

yea... your right, I apologize for my error:
it is already semi worthless now. The high allagan (ilvl115), restored version of the 'weathered' series (ilvl110) and tidal wave (ilvl100) are better then it, although the tidal waves may be case by case on the weapon comparisons themselves.

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yoshi has always said relic will always be better

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Originally Posted by Raegne

I notice you guys mentioning that the new hard modes give 50 Myth and 45 Soldiery, yet Im looking at the spreadsheet and I see that under "Expert Roulette" It says 0 Myth 45 Soldiery. Does the 50/45 Myth/Soldiery apply to the Roulette too?

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50/45 Myth/Soldiery is just on a normal run of any new dungeon (bray, hala, amdapor).
The Expert Roulette would give an additional 45 Soldiery (as shown by the loot table).

If you do the roulette you would receive 0/45 myth/soldiery (from roulette) and 50/45 myth/soldiery (from normal dung run). => Total with Expert Roulette = 50/90 myth/soldiery

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Originally Posted by Nutz

That would be nice, but sadly Expert Roulette only gives a bonus of 25 soldiery. Since all the 'expert' dungeons give the same reward that's 50 myth 70 soldiery (using roulette for the first time that day).

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You are right, my apologies for the wrong information lol.

Best way to farm myth now I think is running the first two bosses of hm hakkuke for 50 myth then abandoning and repeating.

Fun fun.

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Originally Posted by Kiyouma

50/45 Myth/Soldiery is just on a normal run of any new dungeon (bray, hala, amdapor).
The Expert Roulette would give an additional 45 Soldiery (as shown by the loot table).

If you do the roulette you would receive 0/45 myth/soldiery (from roulette) and 50/45 myth/soldiery (from normal dung run). => Total with Expert Roulette = 50/90 myth/soldiery

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That would be nice, but sadly Expert Roulette only gives a bonus of 25 soldiery. Since all the 'expert' dungeons give the same reward that's 50 myth 70 soldiery (using roulette for the first time that day).

5 Soldiery for Garuda HM, wasn't paying attention to the Myth.

I really wish Soldiery drops were more abundant, I don't think I've even been able to hit halfway through the cap yet.. /sigh

The rates have always been the problem for me, not the caps.

If the myth rates had gone up maybe this patch wouldn't have seemed so crummy.

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Originally Posted by Ecks007

I really wish Soldiery drops were more abundant, I don't think I've even been able to hit halfway through the cap yet.. /sigh

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You have to do the new dungeons. Complete them all and unlock expert roulette then just do that every day. All the new dungeons are easy. Pre 2.2 Pharos was much harder.

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Originally Posted by chococo

On the other hand though, if they make myth easy to farm, then people will just skip anything between 55 and 70 and go straight to 80/90.

They keep changing stuff from patch to patch, makes it seem like they are updating on the spot without previous planning of the big picture.

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You don't need to farm for Darklight, you can probably just farm CT for you i80, fact is Darklight is already skippable if you endure CT a bunch of times.

T6 only drops Soldiery, no myth, but I was unfortunately already capped and don't know the amount =/

I'm fine with soldiery drop rate. It's easy enough to cap the 450 weekly limit with the new dungeons and other things that give them. Those 10 soldiery drop do add-up eventually.

What I didn't expect though is the myth rate. There are added stuffs that need myth now and the drop rate only increased by very little. It's still 50 max for most dungeons. Only CT has a noticeable increase from 50 to 100.

Coil needs to have its normal mythology rate back.

Soldiery drop is fine as it is
Myth however is not. Really need to be boosted a bit.

it would have being fine keeping t4 dropping 50 myths.

I can confirm Turn 6 is 30 Tomes of Soldiery.

any update on the main post ? (bump so this useful thread doesn't drop to the abyss)

Brayflox HM, clear first two bosses and leave. 50 myth per 8 minutes which is roughly equivalent to Turn 4 pre-patch in myth/min. Still requires 36 hours of speedrunning Brayflox for all 9 books for one weapon :(

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Originally Posted by LunarEmerald

Coil needs to have its normal mythology rate back.

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The rate was justified when you were locked out every week. Now that you can farm them ad nauseam, I can understand why they did what they did.

well as long as this chart is accurate then I have plenty of myth to farm between alt classes and My Atma Weapon.

Praetorium yields 20 myth if haven't been posted already

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Originally Posted by JammerSidewinder

I can confirm Turn 6 is 30 Tomes of Soldiery.

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& T7 is also 30 Tomes of Soldiery

Also AK is not 50 myth is 30 myth.

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Originally Posted by Wulfgang

Brayflox HM, clear first two bosses and leave. 50 myth per 8 minutes which is roughly equivalent to Turn 4 pre-patch in myth/min. Still requires 36 hours of speedrunning Brayflox for all 9 books for one weapon :(

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If you do this and leave, don't you get the 30 min penalty before you can enter again?

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Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP

If you do this and leave, don't you get the 30 min penalty before you can enter again?

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Not if you enter with light party with intention to farm the first 2 bosses.

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Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP

Oh very interesting. So, why skip the last boss? Does he not give any Myth? I did Brayflox over the weekend, but can't remember.

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Last boss only gives Soldiery. Doesn't help when you capped it already.

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Originally Posted by Lemon8or

Not if you enter with light party with intention to farm the first 2 bosses.

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Oh very interesting. So, why skip the last boss? Does he not give any Myth? I did Brayflox over the weekend, but can't remember.

Soldiery rates are pretty good, and I'm appreciating the 450 cap.

Mythology rates are too low. I can kinda understand not leaving it at 50 myth for turns 1-4 since they're easy and super quick but everything else is really low, too. There's so much shit you need myth for that increasing them a bit wouldn't ruin the rate of progression at all.

first post needs updating with the 2.28 changed amounts..

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Originally Posted by Squa11_Leonhart

first post needs updating with the 2.28 changed amounts..

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i would agree, but the only changes were to hard roulette, low roulette, trials roulette and CT. so only one dungeon had a change. thats it.