The Next Extreme Trail Should be Sephiroth

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Originally Posted by Atheena

FF8 and Especially FFX would like to talk to you as two of the worst FF games ever made ( To Me! TIDUS is a punk just like Hope in FF12 I could not stand those clowns and wished we could just kill em off early). Really those games were just that bad!

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Lolwut? Sure FF8 has divided opinions because of the gameplay but everything else about it was much better than XIII, with one of the best stories in the entire series!

And millions would like to have a word with YOU concerning X as it's far from being the worst, it has the best and most heartfelt ending to date

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Originally Posted by IfritReborn

Lolwut? Sure FF8 has divided opinions because of the gameplay but everything else about it was much better than XIII, with one of the best stories in the entire series!

And millions would like to have a word with YOU concerning X as it's far from being the worst, it has the best and most heartfelt ending to date

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The whole FFX crew except Yuna, LuLu, and Kihmari (the tiger guy), were annoying as hell! FF8 And FF13 and all of its sequels were just plain awful. FF10 could have been great but alot of the characters in there made me hate it!

FFXIV is always going to have a hard time gaining market share against Blizzard, Bethesda, and the like. It has a few very unique things going for it the greatest of which is the title and the history that comes with it. It would seem silly to me not to take advantage of nostalgia by allowing us to interact with past Final Fantasy stories and worlds or at least the themes of those worlds.

That being said Eorzia needs to tell it's own story at the same time, and including the likes of Sephiroth, Kefka, Cloud, and Terra would be immersion breaking to say the least. There is always the inter dimensional rift from FF5 that links all the FF universes though it hasn't been explained in much detail beyond cameos and Dissidia.

The best way I see it working out is us going to them, Primal style fights or maybe a dungeon here and there going into a past game. Hopefully taking pains to make it go along with the real story and not just dropping us into a fight that never could have happened. Things like dropping into FF7's world during Jenovas first outbreak and helping the weakened Cetra contain it, or helping the SEEDs in Ultemecia's future before the whole space/time wedgie. Keep us waaay in the background so we get our fan service without mucking up the story of the old games. It would be harder to do in the older games since there where less out of focus story events but I'm sure they could get creative.

Just set that up in fashion similar to the Caverns of Time from WoW, and for really the same reason now that I think of it, nostalgia and fan service. Hopefully with no silly memory erasing dragons, and no setting horrible events into motion for odd time travel reasoning. (Hated having to save Thrall and Medivh I was an Alliance hero for goodness sakes.)

Just thought of something, Shinryu and Omega are supposed to be two of the few creatures that are the same entity across all dimensions. Since Promathia became a draconic critter named Shinryu after absorbing the player and Selh'teus in an alternate Vanadiel, is that Shinryu's origin?

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Originally Posted by WingsofWar

inb4 crono-cross Lavos/Time Eater appearance.
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You didn't know? Jenova is the same species as Lavos.

FFX is probably the second best game in the series, after VI. Not counting XIV of course

No....

The next Extreme Primal should be Fat Chocobo (aka God Chocobo or King Chocobo if you call him by those names)

or maybe Cait Sith

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Originally Posted by Gramul

I'd prefer they keep it down with the crossovers.
Lightning was pushing it and the Shantotto event is just crazy. Heck, if they did bring him in (and I REALLY don't want them to) it should only be a temporary event. But God help me if they have his stupid hair or coat as a prise.

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Having Sephiroth's hair in the game as a prize from a temporary event would never happen, simply because SE doesn't want to bother with hair styles that get THAT long.

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Originally Posted by Nahara

Having Sephiroth's hair in the game as a prize from a temporary event would never happen, simply because SE doesn't want to bother with hair styles that get THAT long.

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yea just imagine how many midgets will go and get that hair style ......................

funny thing here is the fact some people think FFXIV is the world of ivalice.

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/pr/world/#!/story/content

It's Hydaelyn, it's been said since the start of the game V.1, FFXIV started with it's own realm. Every cameo and stuff are just Yoshida team using Fanservice to take the easy way.
Some are introduced in the game the smart way, like the crytsal tower or magitek armor taking a real part in the lore, other are just here to be here with no real reason like Lightning was. ("He wanted me to be here" ...why?!)

Also every FF was different, trying to tell wich one had the best story is stupid, it depend on the person that played. To me FF8 one of the best, 9 and 6 being the best and 12 didn't even exist, but that goes only for me.
People need to stop thinking the way they see the world is how everyone should.

Noooooooope.

I'd would really rather see them trying to develop Hydaelyn's world to be unique more instead of continuing with this inane modern-MMO standard of throwing in as many internet memes as possible alongside their own brand of franchise circlejerking. Stuff like classic jobs, summons, and the occasional reference, okay, cool. I'd rather it'd not be stuck in almost every corner of the game like it is right now, it makes the game feel very...lifeless.

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Originally Posted by Sigiria

funny thing here is the fact some people think FFXIV is the world of ivalice.

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/pr/world/#!/story/content

It's Hydaelyn, it's been said since the start of the game V.1, FFXIV started with it's own realm. Every cameo and stuff are just Yoshida team using Fanservice to take the easy way.
Some are introduced in the game the smart way, like the crytsal tower or magitek armor taking a real part in the lore, other are just here to be here with no real reason like Lightning was. ("He wanted me to be here" ...why?!)

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Is that so ? I remember some stuff which were imported right from FF12 (Damalsca for example). Might be just a cameo but well, that would be a shame to lack of imagination to this point...

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Originally Posted by NeoAmon

You brought us FF13 heroine so there is no reason not to bring this iconic villain to FF14 as the hardest Extreme Trail in 2.2 :).

I'm a big fan of Sephiroth, I think he is the second best Villain in FF history and for sure top 5 in RPG games history. I have faith in the story writers to find a way to bring him to FF XIV. He should be hard, unforgiven, powerful and even when we win against him it should not look like defeat but just him exiting the scene for whatever reason. Honestly, I would not even mind if he was Turn 10 Coil last boss in 2.2.

I WANT Sephiroth! nowz!

P.S. don't forget to add epic CGI just for him kicking everyone behind like a boss ^^.

Edit: Seriously boss fight with "One Winged Angel" playing in the background...ZOMG.

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Sephiroth? Time to quit this game.

There is so much to see in Eorzea on the Eastern half of the map. An expansion can grant us access to Ala Mhigo as we attempt to take it back from the Empire. There's also the Garlean Empire we could explore and throw in some new extreme trials. So, adding Sephiroth into this game isn't the greatest of ideas because he just doesn't fit with the story or realm. Unless he tries to take a branch off the meteor arc than that could be something to look into as well.

It looks that way 'cause you're on PC. I say more cross-overs.

The plot with Nael van Darnus in 1.0 was basically a giant reference to Sephiroth and the Meteor incident. A descendant of the ancient race who wants to purge the world for his people by using meteor. He had silver armor and was the legatus of the VIIthe legion. All he was missing is the effeminate face and fetish costume.

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Originally Posted by Skyhound

The plot with Nael van Darnus in 1.0 was basically a giant reference to Sephiroth and the Meteor incident. A descendant of the ancient race who wants to purge the world for his people by using meteor. He had silver armor and was the legatus of the VIIthe legion. All he was missing is the effeminate face and fetish costume.

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Actually he is the son of Gabranth and Sephiroth.

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Originally Posted by Kuwagami

Is that so ? I remember some stuff which were imported right from FF12 (Damalsca for example). Might be just a cameo but well, that would be a shame to lack of imagination to this point...

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Yep, and there is the 7th heaven and cristal tower in mor d'hona, ghost train in dark shroud, the invading faction's called the empire and use magitek armor and some soldiers use gunblades. Soon there will even be a Gold Saucer.

So at this point any name from others FF appearing here doesn't mean anything.

King chocobo. Nuff said.

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Originally Posted by Skyhound

The plot with Nael van Darnus in 1.0 was basically a giant reference to Sephiroth and the Meteor incident. A descendant of the ancient race who wants to purge the world for his people by using meteor. He had silver armor and was the legatus of the VIIthe legion. All he was missing is the effeminate face and fetish costume.

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^ This.

Why bring Sephiroth into this game, when we have Nael Van Darnus?

Awesome char, awesome fights. He manifests the best aspects of:

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Originally Posted by lololink

[...]Gabranth and Sephiroth.

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...which turns out to be a fantastic combination for a villian.

I'm sorry, but Hell no to this idea. Lightning was a dinky little limited time fate, and you use this as justification for adding a full fledged primal battle? NO.

Yoshida already said no Cloud or Sephiroth.

Keep dreaming.

Only way to feasibly do this is make it part of that singing minstrel. He can just sing about it and then you can go fight him.

http://1.media.todaysbigthing.cvcdn....7f92b23807.gif
My guess is eventually this will be a FATE one day, as a tie in for some terribad iOS rerelease of 7.

Not happening, they said they weren't going to add anyone that's dead.

The interesting thing about lore, especially when it comes to FF14 is that you can pretty much make up any odd garbage to support, Eoarza is just a construction of different realities and these so called magical crystals seem to share simmilarities to other FF games. For example when Sephiroth is in the northen crater, when he is all incased in the lifestream, could just make up some BS about how during his sleep, he's able to project his influences in other ways into other worlds and realities, slowly manifesting a presence which needs disrupting in order to allow him to begin his waking up process, blah blah, yada yaayaa bingo bango theres your lore.

They also said they weren't going to give gobuue mounts to people after 1.0

Please.. no more references to past FF games.
It's cheesy, unnecessary and spoils immersion.

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Originally Posted by AdamuKun322

There is so much to see in Eorzea on the Eastern half of the map.

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Honestly, as dinky as they've made the map, there really isn't that much in terms of scale to see.
They kind of shot themselves in the foot by giving us access to as much of the world as they have, yet having it be so condensed. :-/

What is with people's obsession with that character.

If we're doing crossover extreme-mode bosses, then the next one should be Jecht.

Only you don't fight him. It's a drinking contest, and you're also racing to see who can kill the most endangered animals.

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Originally Posted by NeoAmon

You brought us FF13 heroine so there is no reason not to bring this iconic villain to FF14 as the hardest Extreme Trail in 2.2 :).

I'm a big fan of Sephiroth, I think he is the second best Villain in FF history and for sure top 5 in RPG games history. I have faith in the story writers to find a way to bring him to FF XIV. He should be hard, unforgiven, powerful and even when we win against him it should not look like defeat but just him exiting the scene for whatever reason. Honestly, I would not even mind if he was Turn 10 Coil last boss in 2.2.

I WANT Sephiroth! nowz!

P.S. don't forget to add epic CGI just for him kicking everyone behind like a boss ^^.

Edit: Seriously boss fight with "One Winged Angel" playing in the background...ZOMG.

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Condemnation: No, just no.

A Square employee commits suicide every time an idiot says "PLZZ SEPHIROTH FIGHT!111!1"

No, just no, and I say this as a devoted FFVII fan. Just, no.

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Originally Posted by NeoAmon

I WANT Sephiroth! nowz!

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...... no ........

you guys so mean :(. Come on it will be fun ^^

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Originally Posted by NeoAmon

you guys so mean :(. Come on it will be fun ^^

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As long as he brings me dis pear.

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Originally Posted by NeoAmon

you guys so mean :(. Come on it will be fun ^^

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If they are going to add characters as boss fights, the game needs to at least be good first. 7 is among my most hated FF games ;P (along with X- and XIII- series)

I would rather see the "classic" Fighter or Black Mage or even White Mage or Monk added as boss fights rather that some overhyped game I couldn't even stand to finish ;P

No. This is Final Fantasy XIV, not Final Fantasy Online. As fun as things like CT and Gold Saucer is/will be, the cameos seriously need to not go over board imo. Having places from other games is fine, but having characters? No ty. Lightning being here made sense, but was still something no one asked for. Now my server is just full of Lightning look a likes -.-

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Originally Posted by Mahri

If we're doing crossover extreme-mode bosses, then the next one should be Jecht.

Only you don't fight him. It's a drinking contest, and you're also racing to see who can kill the most endangered animals.

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I lol'd. Jecht is the ultimate badass.

On-topic.
Please, for the love of God no.

Firstly, I don't understand the obsession with Sephiroth. He's not an amazing villain by any stretch of the imagination.

Second, the Lightning crossover was pushing it enough.
I'm all for dungeons like the Crystal Tower, but full-blown character battles? No thanks

Final Fantasy X/VIII are my 2 favourite games, and I think it'd be absolutely amazing to have a huge boss fight with Ultimecia/Sin. Hell, I'd love to fight a 2 stage Jecht/Final Aeon.

But, just because I think it'd be great, that's the absolute last thing I would want to see in Final Fantasy XIV.
I want FF XIV to be its own game, not some huge nostalgia trip.

If I want to fight Sephiroth, I'll just play Dissidia. He's a pushover on maximum, anyway.

Give us more primal battles. Those are the kind of things I will play FF XIV for.
I want to fight huge monsters that can kick my ass if I'm not paying attention.

Diablos
Shiva
Magus Sisters
Quezacotl
Leviathan
Ixion
Gilgamesh
etc. etc

These are the kind of things I want to see. Not some shitty nostalgia trip involving one of the most overrated characters in FF history.

leviathan, ramuh and shiva are the one know.
we know too that gilgamesh must come soon (2.2 or 2.3) but we are not sure of the form of him fight (fate or primordial)