The state of Hacking and RMT trading.

The only MMO that has any major success in dealing with and eliminating RMT to a certain extent at least is EVE Online and the PLEX system basicly you can buy plex from EVE redeem them use them yourself or sell on the market.

why buy from RMT which can get you banned when you can buy off the company that owns the game.

FYI in eve a plex = 1 months game time

some people willing to buy them yes can potencially get very rich but at the same time the person who buys it plays for free and the sale price for them on the market is player driven

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Originally Posted by Tilio

The only MMO that has any major success in dealing with and eliminating RMT to a certain extent at least is EVE Online and the PLEX system basicly you can buy plex from EVE redeem them use them yourself or sell on the market.

why buy from RMT which can get you banned when you can buy off the company that owns the game.

FYI in eve a plex = 1 months game time

some people willing to buy them yes can potencially get very rich but at the same time the person who buys it plays for free and the sale price for them on the market is player driven

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Indeed. And one of the reasons this works is that you will never really get rid of the players who want to buy. As long as something needs time and/or work to obtain in an mmo, RMT will try to be there to sell it to you. And there will be players who want to buy. So CCP basically just made an in house RMT, governed by the in game market(Which is all one server as well) and it pushes away external RMT due to the competition and "legality" of it.

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Originally Posted by Sasse

The situation is worse than any F2P game I've played.

The whole notion of paying for a premium service is a huge slap in the face for paying subs.

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Because most F2P games already lost the war, by either introducing "legal RMT" or being a piece of sht game.

So you want SquareEnix to surrender and just implement "legal RMT", right? One of the many reasons I am paying SquareEnix is because they are actually fighting rather than surrendering.

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Originally Posted by Zer0

We have passed the threshold of allowable behavior.

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Welcome to Free-Market Capitalism.

I would rather see SE selling Gil for a lot lot lower price than any RMT site that way if people want to buy it they go to SE sooner or later it wont be worth the RMT's Time to sell any gil at all. If they have no Gil to sell then there would be no RMT spam in chat.

Now Bot's on the other hand and hacked account's is a different ball game all together.

"Final Fantasy XIV should be more like EVE Online" is not something anyone should ever say.

Having said that, I would like to ask that players to please be careful when going on third party sites. This includes any wikis that have not been officially sanctioned by Square-Enix. Additionally, buying a security token or downloading the security application should be on everyone's to-do list.

I can't speak for other servers, but Excalibur is seeing an influx of players who have been having accounts stolen. People who haven't ever bought gil have lost their accounts thanks to keyloggers conspicuously added onto PCs through questionable information sites. The best way to avoid your account being stolen (along with never buying gil from the cheaters) is to avoid any website that you think could potentially be associated with gil advertisements. "It will never happen to me," is a popular attitude, but that is a saying that no one should ever truly believe with 100% certainty.

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Originally Posted by Syamic

I would rather see SE selling Gil for a lot lot lower price than any RMT site that way if people want to buy it they go to SE sooner or later it wont be worth the RMT's Time to sell any gil at all. If they have no Gil to sell then there would be no RMT spam in chat.

Now Bot's on the other hand and hacked account's is a different ball game all together.

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So your solution to combat a crime, is to let the government design a law that makes it legal for the government itself to do the crime, but illegal for all its citizens. Yeah, that must be a really good suggestion.

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Originally Posted by HurtigeKarl

So your solution to combat a crime, is to let the government design a law that makes it legal for the government itself to do the crime, but illegal for all its citizens. Yeah, that must be a really good suggestion.

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WTF you talking about its a game.

Blizzard have been doing it for a long time with Diablo 3. What's the difference here ?

I think the biggest issue is how inactive the GMs are in FFXIV. If i report an RMT for spamming a city, or someone who is teleporting from mining point to mining point. Than a GM should be there quickly to resolve it. This "Wait and see" approach is just stupid. By the time they investigate the accused account they've already flooded hundreds of thousands of gil into the economy. They need a more active GM force. I reported a bot earlier today while i was mining Lightning shards in Central Thanalan. Three hours later they were still there, teleporting from node to node, as if i didn't report them. I got no confirmation that my "report" was even acknowledged or recieved. No replies, no /tells from any GM or anything. As if my report just went to the void.
And this is one of the reasons i'm on the fence for subbing. I have no issues with a subscription game, infact i prefer a sub. But i want to know my money is going to better the game, not just to line some pockets.

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Originally Posted by Sylvanoshei

My Char on the JP server (Fenrir) since launch has only had 6 /tells from RMT. No spamming of the chat channels. On the NA/EU server (Balmung), constant flooding of /shout, /tell, /say, and /yell, so bad had to turn them all off.

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Well, now you know the RMT really know where their market is. Apparently people on JP servers don't buy gil.