What justifies the "casual" label?

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Originally Posted by Viscara

Yeah, realistically it's just someone whose goal isn't to be at the forefront of progression (or anywhere near it a lot of the time).

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This, but the term casual has been over used as an excuse of why x should be nerfed, or why y is to hard. Basiclly if someone says "I am casual and this to hard" the really mean they can not do it with thier given skill, but instead of getting better, or maybe even reading up on fight they just say casual. Makes real casuals look bad.

Casual is a pretty broad term. Many people have their own definitions and it really depends on the person using the word. An example would be someone who rushed to the end-game content and has all the best gear for the current patch might use the term as a form of insult to anyone else who didn't do the same. A person who only has time to play the game maybe 8 hours a week total might use it to it's most literal definition.

I personally see the term casual as someone who has time to play, but has decided to not devote all their time in the game to the end-game content. I don't really see someone who plays casually being in a top FC on their server or in the world. A casual player, to me, is someone who could play the game for 8 hours a day and just enjoy the game or they could be someone who can only play an hour a day and still enjoy the game. It really depends on the person.

If it's not your second day job, you're casual.

I play for fun, I consider myself casual. However, I play a lot, some say that's hardcore.


Maybe I'm softcore.

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Originally Posted by RobotoInu

I'm casual, even though I play for several hours a day, here is why.

I don't let the game determine my real life schedule.
I don't take it seriously.
I don't rage when my DF group does poorly.
I just enjoy the game and the people without the desire to be better than anyone else.

-RobotoInu

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I think this perfectly shows me the blurred lines of the definitions people talk about.
I consider myself Medium-hardcore because I am endgame focused and spent many hours playing but at the same time

I don't let it determine my schedule
I don't take it seriously
I definitely don't rage when DF or ANY team goes badly
I have no desire to be better than others, but (and probably where medium-core comes in) are driven to improve myself to the top I can.

It's awesome how with the titles of casual or hardcore people throw around 2 people can be so similar and yet play differently. :D

Good post man. +1

The definition of "casual" varies depending on who you talk to.

For some people it's an outright insult, a label they use to make themselves feel more superior.

To others, it's a badge of honor indicating they "have a life."

Personally, I consider someone a "casual" if they aren't at the bleeding edge of progression. I don't consider this a "bad" thing, however, nor does "casual" indicate "unskilled." In every MMO I've ever played, there's been a wide range of skills throughout the different "ranks" of raiders. There are some extremely skilled players who simply don't want to dedicate the time required of being a hardcore raider, and some rather unskilled players competing in top guilds. So...

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Originally Posted by Happysour

I think people are really blurring the line here. Look at it this way, I work fulltime and go to the gym 3 days a week, and I babysit one morning. Now, generally I play on my days off for an hour or so after work if I'm not busy.

This is the true definition of a casual, someone who plays casually from time to time, not "i play casually 8 hours a day". If you play 8 hours a day and don't progress much at all each day, it's not that you are a casual, it's that you really just don't play the game.

EDIT: I also do not like easy content and I don't see a rush to 50 reason. But then this is coming from someone who actively played Lineage 2 for a good 4 years, a lot when I was younger.

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^ this.
That's actually the definition of a casual player.

casuals sleep more than 3-4 hrs/day and play less than 60hrs/week.

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Originally Posted by DrakoRocks

casuals sleep more than 3-4 hrs/day and play less than 60hrs/week.

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I'm going with this definition because all other ones are too grey. It's official; I'm casual!

Casual player is someone who enjoys gaming but enjoys the real world more.
Hardcore player is someone who has 0 interactions (possibly has a job but most likely living with mom unemployed) in real life and substitutes friends and a real life with increased time spent gaming.