Where is the AI?

More random battles that made online guides less useful would make this game far more fun imo. Guides would let you know what certain spells etc the mob would use and what they do but that is about all.
I have been playing games for around 35 years and the only guides during the earlier years of gaming came out in magazines usually months after the game was released. I personally would only look at one if i was totally stuck.
These days people tend to look at them or are expected to look at them before even trying the content.

Same people then complain about how easy and boring the game is.

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Originally Posted by StrangerousDangerous

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Yeah super intelligent AI would be nice, but then too many people would get stuck on a lv3 lady bug who takes advantage of the fact that you are level 1 and it knows you just got a quest to kill them and are weak and new to the mechanics, so they gang up on you or trick you into targeting a teant or something...and now your a level one getting screwed over by an unholy alliance of lady bugs squirrels and mushrooms and you just want to....well you get the point.

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Don't stop now! It was just getting interesting!

Any word in the live letter on adding smarter mobs?

As many kids are already complaining this game is "too hard" and "want it easier", now you want to introduce random AI mechanics to this game? The complaints just keep rolling on in.

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Originally Posted by Itchyness

As many kids are already complaining this game is "too hard" and "want it easier", now you want to introduce random AI mechanics to this game? The complaints just keep rolling on in.

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I'm sorry, please don't group those who like a nice and lively polished game with fun to those who want everything handed to em

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Originally Posted by ErBear

no mmo has any type of AI that I know of
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Ragnarok Online has a very basic, albeit functional, scripted AI behaviour that is reactionary as well as proactive in its usage of skills.

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Originally Posted by StrangerousDangerous

Give me an example of how you want to mobs to react. Because for me, you are the one who should be reacting in a mmorpg.

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There are a few examples that come from the top of my head:
- Healer-type mobs casting Esuna on beleaguered comrades (do mobs already do this?). This can be extended to more extensive pre-buffing as well, which is done in small amounts already.
- Pre-emptive stunning/sleeping/silencing of player attacks that take a while to charge up.
- Casting Dispell on buffed players.
- Mobs using effective CC abilities or even aiming to kerb the abilities of healers to increase their chances of winning.
- Reacting to certain player skills in a certain way.

While, yes, having an extensive mob AI on all mobs would be overkill and be unnessecary, this doesn't stop there being less scripted, more reactionary boss fights. At the minute, boss fights - à la Titan HM - rely heavily on the remembering of the boss' rotation. Some semblence of an AI, no matter how basic, would certainly spice up these encounters.

If you guys want an example of boss AI in MMORPG, take a look at Monster Hunter Frontier :)

I don't think any other games can do it like MHF tho, & certainly not SE.

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Originally Posted by StrangerousDangerous

Yeah super intelligent AI would be nice, but then too many people would get stuck on a lv3 lady bug who takes advantage of the fact that you are level 1 and it knows you just got a quest to kill them and are weak and new to the mechanics, so they gang up on you or trick you into targeting a teant or something...and now your a level one getting screwed over by an unholy alliance of lady bugs squirrels and mushrooms and you just want to....well you get the point.

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Oh...my...GOD!!!! Dude! We need to propose this! That is the sort of AI I would love to start seeing in mmorpgs, people complain about how quickly they get to max level, or how crafting say a level 20 piece of gear rather than getting it from a quest is useless...but imagine if every level was a fight for your life due to awesome intelligent enemies everywhere!? Yes! Give me that MMO BRO!!!

AI, Kill healer 1st always go after the healer, the hell with anyone else the healer needs to die then I can kill everyone as slowly as I want..

No thanks!

You do realize that AI is just a single MASSIVE script with various calls for actions based off different inputs.

"Notices Party member is healing party member with most hate." > "Use AOE attack aimed towards Healer" etc. The difference between most AI and a basic script is how many calls there are in the programming and how much freedom the monster gets to chose abilities