Time Limit In Dungeons

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Originally Posted by Crispytot

Exactly my point. If you want me to look on the youtubes and cheat my way to completing it , then how did the first couple players finish it? Are they psychic? I'm afraid not.

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Well, I for one don't see those people complaining about having problems with the timers, so I guess the timer is even fine for those groups that fail once or twice but to learn to avoid their mistakes.

Oh and how exactly is this cheating?
I have read a short guide (didn't even watch videos, so your point is moot) on each instance so far, just to know what to expect, where I have to be careful with pulling groups, where there were going to be roaming mobs, general abilities the bosses use and what I have to watch out for as a tank.

And guess what, I was still able to enjoy my dungeons A LOT, and probably a lot more than I would have if I knew jackshit and kept wiping the group and caused us to run out of time.

There IS NO VALID REASON to not at least READ a short guide about the dungeon. Nobody is expecting you to watch an hour long video about it (not that you couldn't if you play DPS) but a little bit of preparation means everyone gets to have a good time.

Don't expect to be rewarded for failing, you won't be, and I personally like that and don't want it to ever be changed.

I do, however agree that the timer should be suspended/extended if you lose a member for whatever reason. If someone drops the group (be it time constraints, rage quitting or whatever) it may not have been your fault and the group should not be punished for that.

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Originally Posted by Solragor

NO VALID REASON

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So if someone told you how to beat sniper wolf in mgs 1, or the elevator boss fight in silent hill 2 both of which are actually spoilers you wouldn't be angry? Well this is actually all a dream WHAT A TWIST! Some people do like to be surprised by content even bluegarter understands this some times by delaying some of their how to's to beat bosses as they are fully aware there might be other ways to do it. Case in point people rush to do content first before spoilers are out even if they aren't the first to do it. People should be able to experience that same feeling no matter when they start the game. The problem is they would have to find like minded individuals because there are killjoys that don't understand the enjoyment some get for learning to beat something naturally then beating it in a color by numbers which isn't bad some people mark achievement by completion some by the journey. But neither should be forced on the other.

The timer is pretty generous. I think it's just the game's way of saying, "Hey this isn't working out, you did your best. Better luck next time."

I think it should be paused if your group isn't full and you are looking for a replacement on the DF though.

Last I checked, MGS1 and MGS2 were singleplayer games, where my lack of preparation doesn't affect anyone BUT ME.
This is different in MMOs like this.

I do not disagree that everyone has their own way of doing content and enjoying it, but my point stands that you do not get to complain about running out of time if you do not prepare beforehand and learn the encounter while playing it -and- failing at it.
You KNEW there was a time limit involved (even the first story quest single instance battle introduces you to this time limit!) and did CHOOSE by your own free will to not prepare yourself.
You made your choice, live with the consequences (in this case, not being able to complete the dungeon if you fail too often or too long).

Wasn't talking about the time limit. Time limit stops infinite repeats in the face of death which is also supported by gear damage because if you die too fast too many times you still wont be able to make the cut. Just the no valid reason not read a complete guide is a bit of a blanket statement that really sounds like you are infact disagreeing with how people play a game that happens to be an mmo, which is a running trend because guides are easily accessible that people force it on others which is bad.

If they build their own group with likeminded people I don't care what the damn they're in doing in those 90 minutes they get. For all I care they can slow walk and RP their way through there if they want to.
If they're using the duty finder tool without a full party though, that's different.
I don't waste your time - you don't get to waste mine.

You need to calm down about this , I was stating my opinion, and after you posting stuff over and over again I know you're passionate about the way you play....Your own way. You need to understand that not everyone plays the same way you do.

My FC mates and I ran out of time on Tonberry and we'd done the rest of the instance without breaks.

I've also run out of time on Qarn and Aurum, but those were DF groups that had drops/long pauses in the middle.

But ya - it's frustating to spend that much time in there only to be unable to complete it after 3 or 4 wipes on the last boss.

-1 Vote for this... Do not remove the timers. Thank you Square

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Originally Posted by XenabelleS

My FC mates and I ran out of time on Tonberry and we'd done the rest of the instance without breaks.

I've also run out of time on Qarn and Aurum, but those were DF groups that had drops/long pauses in the middle.

But ya - it's frustating to spend that much time in there only to be unable to complete it after 3 or 4 wipes on the last boss.

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I appreciate that you share my frustration