It's not the GAMES FAULT people, it's the PLAYERS

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Originally Posted by AlienWacKo

The above is still SE's fault and the result of poor planning, the above is easily taken care of in 99% of other mmo's that has a built in auto kick AFK feature. Yes i know you can script around that via macros/bots but the majority of players would have no clue how to do so. the Auto AFK kick while in of itself would not resolve the issues but would allow for more players getting there chance to play!

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Again, I explicitly stated this in my initial reply and said almost exactly what you are saying.

From my original reply.
"The problem stems from SE not being prepared and having enough servers and not having systems to regulate the server populations (AFK Kicker, Server Population Display, etc.)."

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Originally Posted by AlienWacKo

so POOR planning by SE equals the players fault?

makes sense i guess

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LOL yeah the idea that they have no clue about how many electronic sales they've made.

Alright so I tried to go back and read the post, but my eyes glazed over about halfway through from all of the apologism and excuse-making and haughty undeserved moral superiority, so I'm just going to pretend that the post stopped at:

The 1017 comes from 1 overlooked thing, and only 1.
Square Enix didn't think.

Nailed it.

@Kuan-_-Ti_

That was the point.



To all others who seemed to have fail the INT check let me spell it out for you:

The Threads name was designed to pull you in, it's a troll name. The actual content actually targets both sides, SE for failure to anticipate a successful launch of a popular game (I guess they expected it to bomb like the original) and player fault for being self-centered.


Those that think I am upset, I am sorry you aren't worth stressing out over.

To the one targeting me trying to insult me, I haven't been a "virgin" as you put it in over 15 years, and I am probably old enough to be your mother :P

Just because you live in the basement of your parents house, doesn't mean everyone does.

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Originally Posted by zombifiers

Alright so I tried to go back and read the post, but my eyes glazed over about halfway through from all of the apologism and excuse-making and haughty undeserved moral superiority, so I'm just going to pretend that the post stopped at:

The 1017 comes from 1 overlooked thing, and only 1.
Square Enix didn't think.

Nailed it.

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Glad someone paid attention to my careful wording ^.^

I have 3 hidden messages in the post just by omitting some "useless information" and "repeated text"

you found 1.

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Originally Posted by Kissker

Glad someone paid attention to my careful wording ^.^

I have 3 hidden messages in the post just by omitting some "useless information" and "repeated text"

you found 1.

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Oh man don't tell me that, I'm just neurotic enough to actually go looking.

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Originally Posted by Kuan-_-Ti_

lol its both parties falt SE for lack of support and players for loggin in and not playing

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The lack of capacity is what worsened the AFK problem. So the root cause still goes back to SE, not the players.

I'm probably one of SE's biggest supporters (without being a "white knight"), but even "white knights" have to admit that Fernehalwed blogged "We're gonna need a lot more servers" back when world count was 45 and Yoshi-P broke the news that beta applications had reached 1M in June. Our current setup would be straining under the number of beta applicants announced back in late April (580,000).

I still think the decision to add capacity today was the right choice, rather than to suffer under worsening 1017s for a week or two more, with new game sales stopped, waiting for a rushed AFK system to be put into place. (Besides, I want the AFK kicker to involve combat and death (in-game, of course). *whistles angelically*)

Lulz, there might actually be more - I over typed and if you really look hard, you might find a ton of little things in there, like rearranging words or using every 3erd word or other crazy stuff. I only intentionally put in 3 though. Lol.

The biggest, major, most important one though - you already found.

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Originally Posted by Kissker

Lulz, there might actually be more - I over typed and if you really look hard, you might find a ton of little things in there, like rearranging words or using every 3erd word or other crazy stuff. I only intentionally put in 3 though. Lol.

The biggest, major, most important one though - you already found.

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http://www.zwolanerd.com/blog/wp-con.../leosquint.png

You win this round OP. I am actually going to do this at work later tonight.

Damn it all.

Kissker,
I read your thread and got what you were saying and all, and if you see my reply we are pretty much in agreement.

However, the intentional "trolling" title is going to lead to people reading the title and nothing else and coming into the thread and posting knee-jerk reactions.
Sometimes when wanting people to approach something, like this thread, in a certain way, it's initial presentation (i.e. the title) should reflect that.

I feel that many of the points you make are valid and it would be a shame for people not to get what you are saying because all they register is the title.