UI/action bar question...

I am sure the FFXI like menu list UI could be created with addons. However if you actually used it your performance would go down by a lot.

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Originally Posted by Zumi

I am sure the FFXI like menu list UI could be created with addons. However if you actually used it your performance would go down by a lot.

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Hence why I wouldn't want them in my groups.

If I recall correctly, the last game I remember seeing with fast-paced combat and a classic menu was Kingdom Hearts. It kind of worked there but for things you used with any decent frequency you just put them on the shortcut menu. Anytime you had to actually navigate the menu in the middle of combat it was pretty cumbersome. For gamepad users especially it's a bit of a nightmare, trying to move your character with the left stick while repositioning your camera with the right stick and navigating menus with the D-pad, not to mention selecting those options as well.

It works best in slower paced games, FFXIV I think is just fast enough that it would be detrimental.

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Originally Posted by Arcell

If I recall correctly, the last game I remember seeing with fast-paced combat and a classic menu was Kingdom Hearts. It kind of worked there but for things you used with any decent frequency you just put them on the shortcut menu. Anytime you had to actually navigate the menu in the middle of combat it was pretty cumbersome. For gamepad users especially it's a bit of a nightmare, trying to move your character with the left stick while repositioning your camera with the right stick and navigating menus with the D-pad, not to mention selecting those options as well.

It works best in slower paced games, FFXIV I think is just fast enough that it would be detrimental.

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Kingdom hearts with a menu based combat worked because it was single player. If other people are depending on you to perform well, and you are purposely handicapping yourself despite that, then you don't deserve to be part of the group.

Hmmm. Maybe if you had it like FFXIII's style of menu (one quick/repeat option) or have it were you simply held down the selection button to automatically go into the menu and make the selection, some FFs if your playing on fastest speed you'd pretty much had to time holding down the select button and either holding it all the way through or stoping right where you want to change selection.

Other than that, the menu style isn't really viable anymore.

Menu style isn't going to work that good in FFXIV. :< i know is sad, but is time to let it go.

If I remember correctly the devs said something about how they would have the old layout available as a style to choose so that old players wouldn't have to get used to the new setup or something.

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Originally Posted by Nyx

If I remember correctly the devs said something about how they would have the old layout available as a style to choose so that old players wouldn't have to get used to the new setup or something.

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I don't think something like that was said. Plus, it doesn't make sense, maybe only if by 'old players' you mean players from XI, since XIV never had a list combat UI (or you are referring only to the menu).

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Originally Posted by Nayto

Hmmm. Maybe if you had it like FFXIII's style of menu (one quick/repeat option) or have it were you simply held down the selection button to automatically go into the menu and make the selection, some FFs if your playing on fastest speed you'd pretty much had to time holding down the select button and either holding it all the way through or stoping right where you want to change selection.

Other than that, the menu style isn't really viable anymore.

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Don't forget the automatic button. Most time in FF XIII I used the automatic button because it was faster.

as long as i can use a controller for the UI im happy. FFXI/FFXIV worked fine with the ffxi menu or ffxiv pertty pics. hope the new one feels the same.