No release date; could it mean we're in for a longer wait than expected?

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Originally Posted by Mijin

How do they expect the launch of 2.0 to be successful if they aren't even willing to give a release date?

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Because they ... want it to be successful?

they probably want to get it totally right. they don't want to wake up the sleeping beast of peoples that aren't reading forums about the game or new to this mmo completely yet. if things go wrong again it could totally lose them again. might as well be at 100% b4 speaking and giving us dates. or what happened last time can happen again. it's not like a new game and your using all that time for hype. the hype is already gone for alot of people and them giving a date would be from now till that date people will be talking about it. they don't want people who hated the first years to make the new version look like crap for all that time. sneak attack lol.

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Originally Posted by T_Partisian

Because they ... want it to be successful?

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They do? I mean yes, yes they do. The track record this far proves that beyond the shadow of a doubt.... and oh yes, yes they do, money is at stake here, so i unanimously agree.

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Originally Posted by Mijin

Besides even if the community was rushing them its a moot point because SE doesn't listen to the community lol.

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Yeah, they NEVER listen to us. Nothing we say ever changes anything.
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No, they do listen. They've changed a lot of their plans due to our feedback. (Remember the server merge/transfer ordeal?) That doesn't mean, however, that they are obligated to listen to everything we say without making any of their own choices.

Of course they need to get this done properly and dont rush it so same shit happens again. But you need to count in, if you wait too long with Informations about the release ppl will go play something else and not come back and loosing too many subscribers is something SE doesnt wants cause it could be the beginning of the end...

There are 2 possible game breaking things that will come from a release date, they are releasing a buggy game on time, and we all know what happened last time that happened.

Or they push the release date back, which also angers people, a release date will come either after Alpha or some way towards the middle of beta, so they know where they are.

A recent MMO developer had the stance "It'll be ready when it's ready" and it's worked out well for them.

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Originally Posted by Ingolf

A recent MMO developer had the stance "It'll be ready when it's ready" and it's worked out well for them.

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Nobody has heard of that mmo... :P lol

think he talking bout gw2, but that game sucks. all mmo's have sucked and probably most players don't play for longer then 6months. so ffxiv isn't in huge trouble if people wander off for awhile. they will come back. no mmo truely satisfies any real mmo'er these days. as for casual, that is what they are, they will come back cause there a.d.d keeps em from staying in one place for long.

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Originally Posted by strallaalaa

think he talking bout gw2, but that game sucks. all mmo's have sucked and probably most players don't play for longer then 6months. so ffxiv isn't in huge trouble if people wander off for awhile. they will come back. no mmo truely satisfies any real mmo'er these days. as for casual, that is what they are, they will come back cause there a.d.d keeps em from staying in one place for long.

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Wow (no pun intended) you speak with such a broad stroke of words, you must know these things to be true, and speak them as fact for everyone.

First of all he is talking about GW2, and maybe it sucks for you, but I'm enjoying myself atm, as are many others. Second, all MMO's have not sucked imo, FFXI is the best MMO I have ever played. I played for 6 years, and guess what, I'm thinking of going back, how does that strike you, lol.