Comparing the graphics via screenshots

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Originally Posted by bobbygunz

SE claim it's a "sister engine", which doesn't really quantify how much of its "core" is similar to the luminous engine. However, similar staff members worked on each, and maybe that's why people think that they're closely related. But they're not. A cursory glance at Agnis Philosophy and ARR is enough to prove that. Theyre obviously completely different. I mean it's obvious that since the system requirements for Agnis Philosophy will be so much higher than ARR that the similarities between the two cannot really be that great. Dynamic lighting is nothing exlusive to Luminous, so ARR's engine probably has more in common with its contemporary MMO games with similar system reqs than with Agnis Philosophy and other games made with the real luminous.

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You have no clue how a game engine works.

Unreal Engine 3 "Tech Demo": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSXyztq_0uM
Unreal Engine 3 Game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCw_GKUK7bE

Tech Demos, which Agnis Philosophy is, always show off what the engine is capable of doing. Agnis Philosophy isn't a game, it's a pre-scripted animation running in real-time on a super computer.

A Realm Reborn's engine is just a modified Luminous Tools, which is why it's a "sister engine."

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Originally Posted by Tonkra

good for you to cut the unpopular graphic details out of the mini screenshots. and some of them seem obviously photoshoped (higher gammar and contrast)

Ul'dah for example offers just flat and even/ugly textures and all regions have something in common. they are so damn boring... that you do not want to explore them anymore.. less environment details.. such as missing characteristic landmarks etc..

no you can have your 1.0.

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Lol they are not photoshopped!? ... The game has looked like that since Beta. Okay, so obviously you've have been playing a different game for the past two years apparently.

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Originally Posted by bobbygunz

Okay, so obviously you've have been playing a different game for the past two years apparently.

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http://i49.tinypic.com/ezmofo.jpg

Oh, you!

A lot of you area also forgetting that ARR isn't optimized to have DirectX 11 features. Once the development team gets to that, the game will also look drastically different than when ARR is released.

Lol, I don't know why people take it as a personal insult when someone posts screenshots of FFXIV 1.0 on standard settings. If youre going to make a thread titled "Comparing the graphics", then at least do it properly, and not just post 1.0 on worst settings and say it's a fair comparison.

Anyway, obviously 2.0 needs some work. Hopefully they can bring ARR up to standard by release.

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Originally Posted by KiriA500

You have no clue how a game engine works.

Unreal Engine 3 "Tech Demo": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSXyztq_0uM
Unreal Engine 3 Game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCw_GKUK7bE

Tech Demos, which Agnis Philosophy is, always show off what the engine is capable of doing. Agnis Philosophy isn't a game, it's a pre-scripted animation running in real-time on a super computer.

A Realm Reborn's engine is just a modified Luminous Tools, which is why it's a "sister engine."

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It's mentioned in the FFXIV Special Talk Session;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_737hYbSCEs#t=16m40s
don't forget to turn on youtube close caption for subtitles.

In short, from the director of Luminous Studio engine, he mentions the FFXIV uses the core of Luminous but is not the Luminous engine. The Luminous engine is not complete, and for time constraints, the engine for FFXIV built separately to fulfill the needs for an MMO game.

To me that sounds like development for FFXIV's engine is branched off of Luminous core development, seeing how that engine isn't even complete yet.

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@17:22 Yoshihisa Hashimoto: "This is a real-time video (Agni's Philosophy) that uses Luminous Studio enging that we've created, playing on high-spec PC. The core of this engine was used for the FFXIV one."

@17:44 Mocchi: "It's really amazing! Why didn't you guys just create FFXIV with the Luminous Studio engine?"

@17:50 Hashimoto: "In order to fulfill the needs for an MMO and for FFXIV, and in order to emply the optimal method int he shortest time, the FFXIV engine was built from scratch for FFXIV alone."

@18:01 "Luuminous is a multi-purpose engine that is being developed to run games of any genre and it will still take time before it is complete."

@18:12 "While the FFXIV engine was created in an extremely short amount of time, it was worked on whole-heartedly and made into a class-leading engine for FFXIV."

@18:20 "A lot of the Luminous staff were involed with the FFXIV engine and applied their technical know-how. As I'm supervising both, they are really close genetically. While they are different, you can consider them cousins."

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No, stop this thread immediately!

You'll make Rokien cry.

I have a few highest settings screenshots taken at 1920X1080 that peeps can probably use to compare. They were taken quite a while ago, so maybe not the best example, but still better than nothing. Also, they are mostly in the Limsa region, so even harder to compare with ARR where most of the screenshots are in Gridania. But they're better than nothing.

http://i.imgur.com/84eLC.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/qnZED.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/sMUY2.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/AobQ2.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/lKDJj.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/LCZ7V.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/a1kTx.jpg

Even though those pics are high-res they don't do 1.0 and justice. lol

This Graphic ordeal is just a workout ya know? Cartoon? Realism? In-between? I can care less -.- as long as the game itself is awesome and have a lot of content, and the battle system is engaging I'm a happy camper. Styled Graphics is what I like the most, it doesn't have to be HD. XI had that Styled Graphics and almost every place was perfectly executed. ( No I don't want it to be FFXI). I just like Style graphics over HD Graphics ^.^.

You know how long the forums have been arguing about the Graphics alone? I'm stressed out =(.