Atomos = Inflation...

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Originally Posted by Sagagemini

I don't get it..how are people making gil out of it? Blood/Danw drops? What the hell is that lol?

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blood drops and dawn drops are items you can purchase at the recruit rank from every GC. they cost almost no seals to purchase (10-15 respectively) so people are using the crazy amount of seals they are earning from founders day to purchase stacks and stacks of them then vendoring them.

To give you a rough idea, one overaspected cluster is worth about 264,000 gil if you purchase nothing but blood drops with it. Roughly it's a little less than 90,000 gil per 1000 seals. which normally isn't much but because now people have been able to get hundreds of thousands of seals with minimal effort/time involvement it means that a dedicated person can make millions of gil out of thin air due to this event.

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Originally Posted by Ferth

blood drops and dawn drops are items you can purchase at the recruit rank from every GC. they cost almost no seals to purchase (10-15 respectively) so people are using the crazy amount of seals they are earning from founders day to purchase stacks and stacks of them then vendoring them.

To give you a rough idea, one overaspected cluster is worth about 264,000 gil if you purchase nothing but blood drops with it. Roughly it's a little less than 90,000 gil per 1000 seals. which normally isn't much but because now people have been able to get hundreds of thousands of seals with minimal effort/time involvement it means that a dedicated person can make millions of gil out of thin air due to this event.

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Wow, that's ridiculous.
I didn't know about that. I got 70k seals with the event, bought some GC equip/weapons and stopped doing it.

Atomos is NOT causing inflation. The only way to turn Atomos crystals into NEW game money ('cause getting it off other players does nothing to the economy), is to mass buy/sell dawn drops... But have you actually tried doing this? Try doing it with 5k seals.... It takes hours upon hours, and that 5k seals wont even get you a mil in gil. The time it takes to do this, you could earn the same off farming or pretty much anything else.

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Originally Posted by TheFrozenOne

Yes but you making 1.5 million gil on the Market Wards isn't the same thing at all. That's just gil that's getting transfered between people and the gil has no real effect on the economy as a whole. When millions of gil are coming out of nowhere (NPCing things by the thousands) that's a real problem. That's a huge amount of gil that's being introduced into the system all at once and will definitely cause an inflation, its severity dependant on how much this is actually being done. They should have made the stuff unNPCable or increased the price of the items in seals, if they did that even slightly it'd have been better than what could be a major inflation.

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Right, and I mention this too; but the amount of gil coming into the game at the beginning of the game was very intense, and lasted for a much longer period of time. I'm not atomos has the same kind of power to affect the economy as the game's first launch did.

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Originally Posted by Ferth

blood drops and dawn drops are items you can purchase at the recruit rank from every GC. they cost almost no seals to purchase (10-15 respectively) so people are using the crazy amount of seals they are earning from founders day to purchase stacks and stacks of them then vendoring them.

To give you a rough idea, one overaspected cluster is worth about 264,000 gil if you purchase nothing but blood drops with it. Roughly it's a little less than 90,000 gil per 1000 seals. which normally isn't much but because now people have been able to get hundreds of thousands of seals with minimal effort/time involvement it means that a dedicated person can make millions of gil out of thin air due to this event.

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EXTREMELY dedicated... I've been doing this to help me get the 500k seal achievement (I bought all my crystals, so I'm not making any profit), and I can tell you that it takes SO much time that I wouldn't be worried about this causing any real inflation problems. Any inflation going on is likely due to the fact that people THINK the gil cap is going down and so they're spending all their 'excess' gil en mass.

It's likely just going to be temporary as the game has a lot of decent gil sinks in the form of multi-melding.

A lot more money is entering the economy right now but a lot more is going to start disappearing too as people will have the gil and will take the risk on more double or triple melds which should eat up a good amount of the gil coming in. This is going to have an intimidate impact on materia prices as demand for them goes up but it will eventually settle back down once the event is over and enough gil is blown up in failed melds.

I would like to point out, if no one has already, that Yoshida said player housing would come in two forms. An affordable house and a ridiculously expensive house. If it is something like 50 million for the expensive house, that will take a lot of the money out of circulation in a matter of hours.

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Originally Posted by Ladon

It's likely just going to be temporary as the game has a lot of decent gil sinks in the form of multi-melding.

A lot more money is entering the economy right now but a lot more is going to start disappearing too as people will have the gil and will take the risk on more double or triple melds which should eat up a good amount of the gil coming in. This is going to have an intimidate impact on materia prices as demand for them goes up but it will eventually settle back down once the event is over and enough gil is blown up in failed melds.

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But that gil doesn't go anywhere but into the hands of another player, so it stays in the system. You'd need something that actually takes the excess gil out of the system, which could be when the ARR launches, till then the ecomony will be inflated without a way to ease the gil coming into the system.

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Originally Posted by TheFrozenOne

But that gil doesn't go anywhere but into the hands of another player, so it stays in the system. You'd need something that actually takes the excess gil out of the system, which could be when the ARR launches, till then the ecomony will be inflated without a way to ease the gil coming into the system.

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As long as a lot of players aren't doing direct trades then the retainer taxes take out a decent chunk. People with more gil are more willing to pay the tax as well. Also if melds are blowing up items then there is a gil sink there since a lot of items require a good amount of vendor items to make.

It's going to be a problem as long as the event is going on though as I'm sure the rate of gil coming in far exceeds the gil sinks, but it should stabilize pretty quick even with the current systems once they cut off the event.

Atomos is screwing up the economy but mostly because there is no supply anymore.

Demand is still there but all the suppliers are doing Atomos.

Don't think this is related so much to turning in seals for gil.

This is just a simple lesson for everyone in Supply / Demand theory. Supply goes down, Demand stays constant, prices go..... UP!