Items disappearing after 7.5

Just for clarification - all of ou seeing this issue - are you playing on console? If so, which one?

The patch notes mentioned the 400 limit being limited to PS4 only, so if they're forcing culling on other platforms as well that would seem like a bug.

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Originally Posted by Tyintheron

Just for clarification - all of ou seeing this issue - are you playing on console? If so, which one?
The patch notes mentioned the 400 limit being limited to PS4 only, so if they're forcing culling on other platforms as well that would seem like a bug.

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Well, previous person wrote about 3080ti gpu, so its should be a PC, i guess. Same for me, im PC user.
And the mechanics works even when ppls have <400 items on floor.

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Originally Posted by Tyintheron

Just for clarification - all of ou seeing this issue - are you playing on console? If so, which one?

The patch notes mentioned the 400 limit being limited to PS4 only, so if they're forcing culling on other platforms as well that would seem like a bug.

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PS5 for me. 400 items placed in a large. Nothing added. Center of the house exposed, consisting of top and bottom floor. Items on the top floor flicker in and out when looking up from the bottom, including stage panels used to hide the top side railings and rooms. Upstairs lights flicker on and off. Really terrible to roam around the house now. It's like horror show...lol

I actually can get this to stop when closing and relaunching the game though... sometimes. And it will stop happening for hours. Really not sure what causes it sometimes and not others. I've had it be both fine and bad alone in the house and with two friends running around.

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Originally Posted by Tyintheron

Just for clarification - all of ou seeing this issue - are you playing on console? If so, which one?

The patch notes mentioned the 400 limit being limited to PS4 only, so if they're forcing culling on other platforms as well that would seem like a bug.

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PC user here.

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Originally Posted by Merton9999

PS5 for me. 400 items placed in a large. Nothing added. Center of the house exposed, consisting of top and bottom floor. Items on the top floor flicker in and out when looking up from the bottom, including stage panels used to hide the top side railings and rooms. Upstairs lights flicker on and off. Really terrible to roam around the house now. It's like horror show...lol

I actually can get this to stop when closing and relaunching the game though... sometimes. And it will stop happening for hours. Really not sure what causes it sometimes and not others. I've had it be both fine and bad alone in the house and with two friends running around.

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I'm trying to figure out if this is a problem from the 1st point or 2d. The bug you mentioned also reproducing when you go upstairs and down? If yes is suppose to be vanishing mechanics, when some items on another floor hiding to save FPS. But it should't work like that in a Large houses. The problem SE knows described here, but it can be different case than yours.

I suggest to write about it to their support center. (not the forums, forums support are useless)
Im already wrote them about first problem, but can't make a second ticket because have no large house by myself. The house I found(where the case is reproduced) most likely made with 3d party programs, I don't want problems for its owner ^_^'

latestpdate from 05/07 does not contain any relevant fixes, waiting, waiting, waiting.

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Originally Posted by Moon_Rabbit

I'm trying to figure out if this is a problem from the 1st point or 2d. The bug you mentioned also reproducing when you go upstairs and down? If yes is suppose to be vanishing mechanics, when some items on another floor hiding to save FPS. But it should't work like that in a Large houses. The problem SE knows described here, but it can be different case than yours.

I suggest to write about it to their support center. (not the forums, forums support are useless)
Im already wrote them about first problem, but can't make a second ticket because have no large house by myself. The house I found(where the case is reproduced) most likely made with 3d party programs, I don't want problems for its owner ^_^'

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Yeah, I don't expect to get a resolution from SE by posting in this forum. They already acknowledged there is a bug with the drawing mechanics the day after the patch.

They did mention they couldn't repeat it at the time. I had considered posting an actual bug report, but I have no consistent way to reproduce the problem that I can report.

I was posting here mostly to see if anyone else encountered specific prevention steps before a fix is released. My own tactic now is to just shut down the game when it happens and relaunch. That will always fix small, medium, FC room, appartments for me for hours.

Larges it's random. Sometimes restarting the game helps for a while. Sometimes not. But in any case the behavior is not what they advertized. They advertized that there would be gradual draw-in of distant objects on other floors when more than 400 items are visible. In my larges, it happens with only 400 items placed, with objects of all sizes, including items on the same floor as my character.

It started happen to me now, I got the 'virus' now. And I'm not even hitting 300 items for the entire house yet (L house). I'm currently sitting at 280-ish item and is only decorated 1st floor (~210 items) and the rest is in the unfinished basement. Although those 70 or so items in the basement is very compacted, they're all in the Japanese shrine thing that I made. Nothing happen today while I'm working on my house, then I went AFK, come back and visit 1 mansion, 1 small, 1 apartment, and 1 fc room to do my gardening routine. Come back to my house after I'm done annnnnd my reception counter disappear.

This issue has been plaguing L house since HW or so when I first got my house, back when it's only 200 slots. Like, I can't see what I placed in the center area behind the stairs kinda thing. Then they fix it by stop culling or together (at least I can't see it cull). And for some reason, now they start doing it again! Why SQEX WHYYY? If my PC can handle it, just let my PC handle it! Or use better culling algorithm. I hope they can come up with better culling algorithm, cuz rendering everything regardless of visibility ain't quite optimized.

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Originally Posted by Alberos

It started happen to me now, I got the 'virus' now. And I'm not even hitting 300 items for the entire house yet (L house). I'm currently sitting at 280-ish item and is only decorated 1st floor (~210 items) and the rest is in the unfinished basement. Although those 70 or so items in the basement is very compacted, they're all in the Japanese shrine thing that I made. Nothing happen today while I'm working on my house, then I went AFK, come back and visit 1 mansion, 1 small, 1 apartment, and 1 fc room to do my gardening routine. Come back to my house after I'm done annnnnd my reception counter disappear.

This issue has been plaguing L house since HW or so when I first got my house, back when it's only 200 slots. Like, I can't see what I placed in the center area behind the stairs kinda thing. Then they fix it by stop culling or together (at least I can't see it cull). And for some reason, now they start doing it again! Why SQEX WHYYY? If my PC can handle it, just let my PC handle it! Or use better culling algorithm. I hope they can come up with better culling algorithm, cuz rendering everything regardless of visibility ain't quite optimized.

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Well, maybe the parts of old system is a reason why their improvements works not well. Hope they will fix it soon...(or turn it off to hell)

I don't know why they're bringing this system back. I don't know why they bother about culling that floor when you're on this floor, if this floor hit that number, sort by distance so on so on thing. Just use Frustrum culling and Occlusion culling like every other game and it would works fine. Unless their engine make it so hard or just not support these basic optimization techniques.

Btw, someone figures a way to disable culling temporary during current game session and it's very easy to do. Give it a try, I haven't try it myself yet, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpgK9Bbn6wk. Based on this "fix" and the comment on that video, seem like this system is a way bigger spaghetti than it seem. TLDW: you use teleport or return inside your house, cancel the animation, go out, go back in, repeat 1 or 2 more times, and it will disable culling for current game session, aka you only need to do it once per play session and it stick for every house you visit during that session. At least that's what he told in the video.